paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
Legion was my saving grace in the ending.
Control was out of the question from the start, I had seen it go wrong too many times. But Synthesis was tempting me, luring me with its promise of everyone living in harmony...and i dident want to sacrifice EDI and the Geth.
But then Legion popped up into my head, his explanation of how the Geth were trying to make a future for themselves, on their own terms...I was not going to betray that right to choose your own future, not for the Geth, not for anybody...
It meant a sacrifice one that hurt me deeply, but i felt destroy was the right choice based upon what we knew from the games.
paxxton wrote...
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
paxxton wrote...
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
Modifié par KevShep, 26 septembre 2012 - 07:58 .
Someone even suggested it happens 3x. 2x via the vidcomm.lex0r11 wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
Let alone the fact that he tells Shepard twice.
KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
I also find it eerie that when TIM says that "he" is in control anderson turns to the camera (player) and says that they are controling "YOU". His eyes meets yours, not TIMs.
paxxton wrote...
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
spotlessvoid wrote...
I was too tired and to WTFITS to even care. I was just completely blown by Bioware ending my favorite game trilogy ever with the most retarded, moronic, pointless 10 minutes in the history of storytelling. So i picked control because it was blue and only Shepard had to die. I'd pay Bioware $10 just to change my legend save file to destroy. It's not fair! I was worn down, confused, angry, and fully indoctrinated. Poor little Shepard. Fought so hard only to be undone at the very end
FFZero wrote...
KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.KevShep wrote...
paxxton wrote...
When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.
In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.
I also find it eerie that when TIM says that "he" is in control anderson turns to the camera (player) and says that they are controling "YOU". His eyes meets yours, not TIMs.
See that bit right there made me twig the first time that something was seriously wrong with the ending. I know the Unreal engine can be a bit funny when it comes to head tracking but that doesn’t explain the camera angle. If Anderson was indeed looking at TIM then the framing is off completely, the camera is too far left of TIM to convey that. No, the focus of that shot is to show Anderson looking directly at the player, no doubt about it in my mind.
BleedingUranium wrote...
spotlessvoid wrote...
I was too tired and to WTFITS to even care. I was just completely blown by Bioware ending my favorite game trilogy ever with the most retarded, moronic, pointless 10 minutes in the history of storytelling. So i picked control because it was blue and only Shepard had to die. I'd pay Bioware $10 just to change my legend save file to destroy. It's not fair! I was worn down, confused, angry, and fully indoctrinated. Poor little Shepard. Fought so hard only to be undone at the very end
Most of the people that I know of that picked Synthesis or Control on their first go were as well. Which also happens to be the state of mind where indoctrination is the most effective! Everyone knows people will stay up late to finish a new game for the first time, I bet anything Bioware was counting on this.
Modifié par spotlessvoid, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:23 .
NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
That whole scene is full of triggers meant to tip off the player. I have never scene a dialogue scene break the 4th wall more so then when Anderson turns his head looks right into you.
I don't know about the whole London/Anderson stuff, I do recognize Shep's reactions as.. odd. But, inconsistencies have been prevalent in the series sometimes, I just can't understand why it would show up like this through unavoidable conversations...
Humakt83 wrote...
I bet Citadel is somekind of mild indoctrination device. Likely to keep residents calm in the face of galactic events and to keep the truth of Reaper's hidden.
"It's not right. It looks pretty, calm and peaceful. But it is not right. It is all just an illusion."
Then there are the "red poppies" everywhere on Citadel. Flowers, that were referenced in Leviathan as dangerous and capability to affect mind.
And I'm beginning to think there is some merit to beings of light (and no, it does not oppose IT, just the theory that Catalyst is a Harbinger/Reaper in masquerade and even then it is up in the air). Mostly due to this video:
Also, is there something wrong with eyes in this scene:
Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:32 .
roy.willemsen wrote...
Humakt83 wrote...
I bet Citadel is somekind of mild indoctrination device. Likely to keep residents calm in the face of galactic events and to keep the truth of Reaper's hidden.
"It's not right. It looks pretty, calm and peaceful. But it is not right. It is all just an illusion."
Then there are the "red poppies" everywhere on Citadel. Flowers, that were referenced in Leviathan as dangerous and capability to affect mind.
And I'm beginning to think there is some merit to beings of light (and no, it does not oppose IT, just the theory that Catalyst is a Harbinger/Reaper in masquerade and even then it is up in the air). Mostly due to this video:
Also, is there something wrong with eyes in this scene:
just thinking along with the video you posted about lights being a thing wich is used alot in reaper artifacts(wich are used for indoctrination). What if the conduit was not a transportationdevice to the citadel, but a rather large indoctrination device?
Just thinking out loud
We get "one more story" regardless of our choices at the ending and confirmed ME game (does not have to be a sequel though).KevShep wrote...
One more story... + ME4 = I.T.?
Ive never gotten over the fact that the game lets us know at the very end that there is "one" more story. They couldnt possibly be refering to multiple DLC's because that is a given "duh". There is also the way in which he says one more story that seems to me to be a little nudge to something.
It would be cool if at the begining of ME4 to have shep waking up in rubble with a breath. However it could be nothing at all.
NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
One thing I can be proud of though is that I stood by Bioware, and I don't much doubt my faith in them... I mean c'mon! These are the people that:
(Spoilers for past BW games below)
-Revealed the player character in KotOR, a seemingly regular person in the galaxy, to be the former Dark Lord of the Sith!
-Turned an incorruptible and faithful companion into your archnemesis' pupil and loyal follower.(Also KotOR)
-Lead you on a breathtaking journey through an ancient, fantastic China, in search of truth and your long lost Master, only to be betrayed and killed in your moment of triumph, only to literally rise from the dead to finish your journey (Jade Empire)
-And the very same people who sent us on a galaxy spanning quest that captured our hearts and imaginations. Led us to devote hours upon hours exploring uncharted worlds, interacting with wonderful and astounding alien races, learning the properties of technology centuries ahead of us, and uncover an ancient galaxy-shaking threat.
These people are masters at what they do. And I believe they do it with passion and intellect. Was I fooled initially? Yes. Do I now know the truth, greater than any possible revelation? Yes.
Thank you Bioware.
Thank you ITr's.
Good Night
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Quick Edit before I sign off: Haha I think seeing your sig Blur (and thus Estebanus) inspired me
Modifié par BleedingUranium, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:37 .
Restrider wrote...
We get "one more story" regardless of our choices at the ending and confirmed ME game (does not have to be a sequel though).KevShep wrote...
One more story... + ME4 = I.T.?
Ive never gotten over the fact that the game lets us know at the very end that there is "one" more story. They couldnt possibly be refering to multiple DLC's because that is a given "duh". There is also the way in which he says one more story that seems to me to be a little nudge to something.
It would be cool if at the begining of ME4 to have shep waking up in rubble with a breath. However it could be nothing at all.
Since in three choices at the end another "Shepard story" seems unlikely and reflecting all the end choices in a future installment that is a sequel is near impossible, this kind of leads us to the assumption that there has to be some kind of canonical ending. Considering the breath scene, this points to IT.
Of course the statements that Shepard's story has been told contradicts this theory.
Modifié par KevShep, 26 septembre 2012 - 08:41 .
Restrider wrote...
We get "one more story" regardless of our choices at the ending and confirmed ME game (does not have to be a sequel though).KevShep wrote...
One more story... + ME4 = I.T.?
Ive never gotten over the fact that the game lets us know at the very end that there is "one" more story. They couldnt possibly be refering to multiple DLC's because that is a given "duh". There is also the way in which he says one more story that seems to me to be a little nudge to something.
It would be cool if at the begining of ME4 to have shep waking up in rubble with a breath. However it could be nothing at all.
Since in three choices at the end another "Shepard story" seems unlikely and reflecting all the end choices in a future installment that is a sequel is near impossible, this kind of leads us to the assumption that there has to be some kind of canonical ending. Considering the breath scene, this points to IT.
Of course the statements that Shepard's story has been told contradicts this theory.
FFZero wrote...
I’m thinking like a lot of you that ME4 or whatever this new ME game is will be a sort of ME3 part 2. The games industry does have a history of using the term ‘trilogy’ rather liberally after all. I mean look at Assassins Creed, that’s supposed to be a trilogy but we’re on what game five now? And you don't add something like the breathe scene unless you're going to go somewhere with it.
Plus with the visceral response to ME3 there is no guarantee right now that a prequel or sequel set far in the future would sell. True, there are some fans that would buy it simply because it’s more Mass Effect but loads of others have said that if at the end of ME3’s DLC cycle the endings are still exactly as they are now that’s the ME series dead for them. There’s no point in making a game for fan base that no longer exists or is too small to make any meaningful profit from.
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