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[Restrider]

BleedingUranium wrote...

FFZero wrote...

I’m thinking like a lot of you that ME4 or whatever this new ME game is will be a sort of ME3 part 2. The games industry does have a history of using the term ‘trilogy’ rather liberally after all. I mean look at Assassins Creed, that’s supposed to be a trilogy but we’re on what game five now? And you don't add something like the breathe scene unless you're going to go somewhere with it.

Plus with the visceral response to ME3 there is no guarantee right now that a prequel or sequel set far in the future would sell. True, there are some fans that would buy it simply because it’s more Mass Effect but loads of others have said that if at the end of ME3’s DLC cycle the endings are still exactly as they are now that’s the ME series dead for them. There’s no point in making a game for fan base that no longer exists or is too small to make any meaningful profit from.

If it is a Mass Effect 3.5 then they could get away with saying that Shepard wouldn't be in any new ME games, as well as ME3 being the end of Shepard's story.

It is a possibilty and it would not even contradict the anouncements they made earlier.
As usual, the only thing we can do is wait patiently.
At least Omega is coming soon.

[paxxton]

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

KevShep wrote...

paxxton wrote...

When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.

In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.

Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.

I always saw that as Anderson being suspicious of Shepard. Shepard's the one who said "Really?" when he knew that he was born there. He could have said "Yeah..." with the same tone, or "It must be tough/hard to see" or something that showed he knew that, while still being nice about it.

The very next thing he does is the "Too bad it too the Reapers to bring us together" line, with an odd focus on "Reapers", while purposefully moving so everyone in the shuttle hears him. When your squadmate corrects him and says it was Shepard that did that, he says "That's exactly what I meant!". He doesn't say it like he's embarassed, he truely means that's what he meant.

It seems he thinks something's up with Shepard, or maybe just testing him.

Wow. That makes perfect sense. Anderson connects Shepard to the Reapers! He means, not saying it straight, that Shepard is (being) indoctrinated.

EDIT: 3 hours since the last post.

Modifié par paxxton, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:57 .

[Ytook]

I probably simply missed the discussion but have people here seen the suposedly leaked dlc release info? From what I can tell some of it sounds plausible but the extended priority: earth dlc and war asset specific cutscene dlc sounds like a fan wish list and highly unlikely to me.

[Restrider]

Ytook wrote...

I probably simply missed the discussion but have people here seen the suposedly leaked dlc release info? From what I can tell some of it sounds plausible but the extended priority: earth dlc and war asset specific cutscene dlc sounds like a fan wish list and highly unlikely to me.

Mike Gamble stated on his twitter that it is fake (though that is not uncommon) and they would have to work 90 hours a week to fulfill that list.
On the other hand we have statements like (paraphrazed):
"If you knew what we are planning, you'd be excited."
"I recommend you to stick with your savegames."
"If you knew how hard we are working on new content..."
"C'mon! I want to feel what a week-end really means." (This is really blury to me, but it was something about the team having overtime and even working on week-ends).

All in all I am not expecting that list to be real, but if the first points on that list turn out to be true, that'd be great.

[Restrider]

paxxton wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

paxxton wrote...

KevShep wrote...

paxxton wrote...

When Anderson tells Shepard he was born in London Shepard asks "Really?" It could be just courtesy but it could also be a hint for the player that something's off with the old man.

In the book Mass Effect Revelation it does say that anderson is from london.

Yeah, but the whole way this scene plays out is weird. Anderson's face expression makes him untrustworthy.

I always saw that as Anderson being suspicious of Shepard. Shepard's the one who said "Really?" when he knew that he was born there. He could have said "Yeah..." with the same tone, or "It must be tough/hard to see" or something that showed he knew that, while still being nice about it.

The very next thing he does is the "Too bad it too the Reapers to bring us together" line, with an odd focus on "Reapers", while purposefully moving so everyone in the shuttle hears him. When your squadmate corrects him and says it was Shepard that did that, he says "That's exactly what I meant!". He doesn't say it like he's embarassed, he truely means that's what he meant.

It seems he thinks something's up with Shepard, or maybe just testing him.

Wow. That makes perfect sense. Anderson connects Shepard to the Reapers! He means, not saying it straight, that Shepard is (being) indoctrinated.

EDIT: 3 hours since the last post.

The question with this is: When does the indoctrination attempt start?
Of course we have the dreams that take place earlier and the kid while leaving Earth. These are hints that the whole process starts at the beginning of ME3 or even earlier (Arrival for example).
The difficult part is to identify the point, where Shepard starts to be in a full hallucination. The common theories suggest that the full hallucination part starts after the beam hit or even later.

Since Anderson's line about the Reapers/Shepard collecting everyone on Earth is after trashing the AA-gun and going to FOB, we can assume it is not a hallucination. If Anderson is real and has concerns about Shepard's mental state, why wouldn't he confront Shepard directly? Note that a similar situation happened after Thessia (ie. Joker telling his classy joke about Asari's defensive capabilites), where Anderson was concerned about Shepard's emotional state. Though Anderson tried an inderect approach (through Joker) to calm Shepard, this is understandable, since Anderson is on Earth during that time and vid-com bandwith is too valuable for extended therapy sessions.

Another interpretation could be that Anderson may be under Reaper influence himself and cannot directly communicate his thoughts to Shepard (ie. Dr. Kenson's dialogue in Arrival was kind of ambiguous in that matter; this was discussed earlier in this thread). The folly about this interpretation would be that Anderson under Reaper influence would oppose Shepard (like Saren/TIM/Kenson). Unless the Reapers want everyone to charge to the beam, which in reality is a huge indoctrination booster (as hinted on one of the datapads).

A third interpretation would be that during that scene we already left the realm of reality and the battle of minds is foreshadowing.

[ThisOneIsPunny]

BleedingUranium wrote...
-Control? What would you do, command the Reapers to kill random people you don't like?

My god, Shepard becomes the space inquisition..

[TSA_383]

Restrider wrote...

Ytook wrote...

I probably simply missed the discussion but have people here seen the suposedly leaked dlc release info? From what I can tell some of it sounds plausible but the extended priority: earth dlc and war asset specific cutscene dlc sounds like a fan wish list and highly unlikely to me.

Mike Gamble stated on his twitter that it is fake (though that is not uncommon) and they would have to work 90 hours a week to fulfill that list.
On the other hand we have statements like (paraphrazed):
"If you knew what we are planning, you'd be excited."
"I recommend you to stick with your savegames."
"If you knew how hard we are working on new content..."
"C'mon! I want to feel what a week-end really means." (This is really blury to me, but it was something about the team having overtime and even working on week-ends).

All in all I am not expecting that list to be real, but if the first points on that list turn out to be true, that'd be great.

I doubt everything in that leak is 100% correct (particularly with respect to the timings)
But, well, if the Citadel DLC comes out and is called "Guardian"...

[estebanus]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
-Control? What would you do, command the Reapers to kill random people you don't like?

My god, Shepard becomes the space inquisition..

NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPACE INQUISITION!

[demersel]

A citadel DLC called "Guardian" would be kind of redundent. (

[Gwyphon]

I want an Omega trailer

Modifié par Gwyphon, 26 septembre 2012 - 01:51 .

[Dendio1]

What do you guys think of this vid?

Modifié par Dendio1, 26 septembre 2012 - 02:07 .

[Rifneno]

I want MP DLC more than anything right now. Upto 8 million credits saved up now.

[Gwyphon]

Dendio1 wrote...

What do you guys think of this vid?

In context the starchild still makes no sense. Being an AI (defined by logic), it sure likes to ignore basic logic frequently.

[ElSuperGecko]

Restrider wrote...
Of course we have the dreams that take place earlier and the kid while leaving Earth. These are hints that the whole process starts at the beginning of ME3 or even earlier (Arrival for example).

"Slow, patient indoctrination allows the thrall to last for months or years."

I'd say that the effects Shepard is experiencing throughout Mass Effect 3 - the dreams, the fatigue, crazy-ass final mission etc - is a cumilation of Shepard's exposure to Reapers and Reaper tech over the course of the last three games (and in-game years).  The dialogue with Sovereign, the tech used by Cerberus, the encounters with Harbinger, boarding the Derelict Reaper, the capture and use of the Reaper IFF, boarding the Collector Base, the Human Reaper, Object Rho... so forth and so on.

Shepard's been exposed to more Reaper tech than anyone bar the Illusive Man, and it shows.

But since Shepard first starts to experience these symtpoms following Earth, I'd suggest that the proximity of the Reapers is causing Shepard's symptoms to manifest more frequently - and so we see the dream sequences etc become more vidiv as the game progresses.

[PsiMatrix]

Something that got me thinking about how Destroy is the right choice; a thread popped up recently that EDI's nameplate goes up on the blackwall in low EMS Control if she's one of your squadmates on the last push to the conduit. Her body dies, she gets a nameplate and if you save the Collector base you get Control as your only option.

Low EMS Control - EDI 'dies'

It also got me thinking about how TIM recruited people from Shepard's past to crew the SR-2 probably guessing that as a tribute to the SR-1 they would name it Normandy as well. He played on one thing: sentimentality.

Which made me think further about the Destroy ending:

• EDI's body was most likely constructed with Reaper tech (keyword TECH)
• The Geth don't appear to be in the Destroy ending unlike in Synthesis where the Quarians are side-by-side with them
• The Geth don't exist as platforms all the time and Tali makes mention in the peace ending that they can exist inside Quarian envirosuits which AREN'T destroyed in Destroy
• EDI's main hardware is still very much intact in high EMS so maybe the Geth platforms are too given they're of Quarian design (the Geth were also busy helping rebuild Rannoch in the peace ending

This makes me think the nameplate in the Destroy ending is now just a sentimental thing; put there by the crew now treating EDI as an equal who lived amongst them, symbolic that 'she' was part of the crew not just a piece of hardware that interacted with them.

I'm even more convinced that IT is true and Bioware probably didn't expect you guys to figure that out so quickly :happy:

[RavenEyry]

The official word is destroy targets reaper code, which makes the collateral damage make even less sense. Wouldn't wiping out the code just return the geth to how they were before? And only damage EDI at worst?

[Gwyphon]

 Space magic? 
But yes, makes very little sense.

[PsiMatrix]

RavenEyry wrote...

The official word is destroy targets reaper code.

That's almost as bad as Synthesis:wizard:

Modifié par PsiMatrix, 26 septembre 2012 - 03:47 .

[Vibez]

 I assume you've already heard about the ME Trilogy release. What do you guys think? Isn't that a bit to soon?

[Samtheman63]

RavenEyry wrote...

The official word is destroy targets reaper code, which makes the collateral damage make even less sense. Wouldn't wiping out the code just return the geth to how they were before? And only damage EDI at worst?

huh? wheres it say that?  isnt it just destroy will wipe out all synthetic life?

[RavenEyry]

Someone at bioware said it. Like all their explanations it just raises more questions.

[spotlessvoid]

I mean the trilogy pack is great for the ps3 users. If you own ME2&3 you'd probably be able to trade them in and get pretty close to the $60 price tag for the trilogy pack.

It can't have any new content. People would storm their headquarters embassy style if they found out they had to buy that just for a little extra content.

I think it's really not a big deal. Good way for people to get all 3.

[byne]

RavenEyry wrote...

The official word is destroy targets reaper code, which makes the collateral damage make even less sense. Wouldn't wiping out the code just return the geth to how they were before? And only damage EDI at worst?

And why would it damage our ships at all?

[RavenEyry]

Because reaper code stops engines exploding. Due to science you see.

[BleedingUranium]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I mean the trilogy pack is great for the ps3 users. If you own ME2&3 you'd probably be able to trade them in and get pretty close to the $60 price tag for the trilogy pack.

It can't have any new content. People would storm their headquarters embassy style if they found out they had to buy that just for a little extra content.

I think it's really not a big deal. Good way for people to get all 3.

That looks cool, though I have all three, and play 360 anyway. I have a friend who was interested in Mass Effect, but he's a PS3 guy, and was a bit disappointed he couldn't play the first one.

Also, November 7th is now "N7 Day"

On that note, do you guys think this affects our projected release date for Omega of October 30th? What about future DLC?

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 26 septembre 2012 - 04:43 .