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[BleedingUranium]

*snipped a bit*

Wayning_Star wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I agree. Shepard being skilled and lucky has played a huge role, but he's just another soldier, he says so himself many times.

Shep keeps tellin him/herself that, cause it's starten to dawn on'em that its possible that that is incorrect.

(how many other people in the MEU gets resurrected?)

No. There's no "resurrection" in the way you're implying in Mass Effect. Shep being brought back in that fashion is very scientifically plausible. He's not "The One" or "The Chosen One", there's no mystical prophecy talking about him, none of that. That doesn't belong in Mass Effect, never has, never will.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 27 septembre 2012 - 08:23 .

[zioninzion]

BleedingUranium wrote...

zioninzion wrote...

Wayning_Star wrote...

zioninzion wrote...

Eryri wrote...

Baranus33 wrote...

Also sorta quickly.. it seems at times that the Reapers are afraid of synthetics more than organics if that makes sense. synthetic life being the bigger threat to their existence because Reapers are dependent on organics, a very twisted form of a symbiotic relationship. Organic life being allowed to exist but at a price. Other synthetic life threatens the Reapers food source and that being the real evil of it all. Its about organics being protected as livestock or crops with organic life being “ripe or freshest” at a certain level of intelligence.

That would make a great deal more sense. I prefer to think that any altruistic motives the Reapers had to "preserve" life are long gone, and now they simply treat organics as cattle to be reared and slaughtered for their own reproduction.

I think a simple, selfish motivation fits the Reapers better than the rather convoluted one given by the star-kid. 

I love your banner at the bottom or whatever it is called! In my opinion, IT theory stands for an ending that is worthy of Commander Shepard. He didnt fight for the galaxy and the species just to have his end and future dictated by the star-brat. Shepard would have found a better way. He did when we helped him break out of indoctrination.

Wake up Shepard :happy:

Luckily Sheps impervious to indoctrination. Can't beat those trusty reaper implants. Oh, wait, trusty "anti" reaper implants.

The IT detracts from Shep more than enfolds the history of the MEU. The future DICTATES not the catalyst or even Shep.

For me IT adds an extra human dimension to Shepard that shows not even he is above the fray and even he is liable to slip and fall. And the fact that he "did (if IT turns out to be true)" but rises above it later on, makes me love him even more. I prefer this to him being a super human above any Reaper abilities of influence.

In my humble opinion:D

I agree. Shepard being skilled and lucky has played a huge role, but he's just another soldier, he says so himself many times.

Im with you. Especially when he asks Hackett why me and Hackett says because you can pay a man to charge a hill or shoot an enemy but you can't pay him to believe. Shepard in a way is the catalyst to bringing the galaxy together to defeat the reapers but the whole game is full of warnings saying "SHEPARD IS JUST ONE MAN".

Wake up Shepard

[BleedingUranium]

*removed wall*

zioninzion wrote...

Im with you. Especially when he asks Hackett why me and Hackett says because you can pay a man to charge a hill or shoot an enemy but you can't pay him to believe. Shepard in a way is the catalyst to bringing the galaxy together to defeat the reapers but the whole game is full of warnings saying "SHEPARD IS JUST ONE MAN".

Wake up Shepard

Exactly. Shepard is a hero to everyone, inspires them, a great leader, and always gets the job done. He's really, really good; the best, even. But he's not "special" in some divine or supernatural way like Frodo Baggins, Anakin Skywalker, or Harry Potter. There's no fate, no destiny, none of that.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 27 septembre 2012 - 08:30 .

[ivenoidea]

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

[Eryri]

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

To me it sounds a bit more like the noise when he's shot out of the transporter pad. It is also similar to the "defibrilator" sound a few seconds later though.

Modifié par Eryri, 27 septembre 2012 - 08:42 .

[BleedingUranium]

Eryri wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

To me it sounds a bit more like the sound when he's shot out of the transporter. It is also similar to the "defibrilator" sound a few seconds later though.

Indeed it does, I wonder why

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 27 septembre 2012 - 08:39 .

[DoomsdayDevice]

Actually that sound is identical to the sound that plays when Shep zaps onto the citadel in the EC ending.

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

[ivenoidea]

BleedingUranium wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

Indeed it does, I wonder why

Well, after finishing levi for the first time i argued that his ability to induce hallucinations and the fact that the reapers were built in their image (they both have an indoctrination like capability) it is save to assume that the reapers too can induce hallucinations.  Bioware is essentially throwing IT in our faces screaming "YES GUYS YOU ARE RIGHT NO PARTY OR SOMETHING" (sorry for the ****** poor english, its late here.)

dammit im not good with sarcasm, well here is my opinion anyways.

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Actually that sound is identical to the sound that plays when Shep zaps onto the citadel in the EC ending.

That is exactly what i meant to say.

Modifié par ivenoidea, 27 septembre 2012 - 08:42 .

[zioninzion]

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

Indeed it does, I wonder why

Well, after finishing levi for the first time i argued that his ability to induce hallucinations and the fact that the reapers were built in their image (they both have an indoctrination like capability) it is save to assume that the reapers too can induce hallucinations.  Bioware is essentially throwing IT in our faces screaming "YES GUYS YOU ARE RIGHT NO PARTY OR SOMETHING" (sorry for the ****** poor english, its late here.)

dammit im not good with sarcasm, well here is my opinion anyways.

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Actually that sound is identical to the sound that plays when Shep zaps onto the citadel in the EC ending.

That is exactly what i meant to say.

I hope IT is as right as you say it is :happy:

[Restrider]

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

Yeah, that has been discussed.... somewhere in this bajillion pages, lol.

I'd also like to add this:
I started to play the trilogy with ME2 and played then ME1->ME2->ME3.
Since you can kind of assume, I had no real concept of the reapers while playing my first playthrough of ME2. I did have access to the codex, but it is not really the same as if I started with ME1.
But it was crystal clear to me, after beating ME2, that the reaper's goal was to harvest organics to reproduce and maybe store the collective essence of each species that is worth it in a reaper form.
That reason was good enough for me. Thus I did not trust the Starchild and refused at my first ME3 playthrough.

Edit: I have taken the freedom to use that "Wake Up" Banner as signature.

Modifié par Restrider, 27 septembre 2012 - 08:51 .

[BleedingUranium]

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

For all those that haven't seen it yet, this is why the end of Leviathan didn't feel as awesome as it should have!

That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

Indeed it does, I wonder why

Well, after finishing levi for the first time i argued that his ability to induce hallucinations and the fact that the reapers were built in their image (they both have an indoctrination like capability) it is save to assume that the reapers too can induce hallucinations.  Bioware is essentially throwing IT in our faces screaming "YES GUYS YOU ARE RIGHT NO PARTY OR SOMETHING" (sorry for the ****** poor english, its late here.)

dammit im not good with sarcasm, well here is my opinion anyways.

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Actually that sound is identical to the sound that plays when Shep zaps onto the citadel in the EC ending.

That is exactly what i meant to say.

Also, when Levi leaves Shep's mind for a bit, looks just like refuse, reenforcing that it's being trapped in your own mind forever.

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

Indeed it was.  It was part of a much longer post, but that's all I could fit.

[ivenoidea]

zioninzion wrote...
I hope IT is as right as you say it is :happy:

Well, what can i say, I'm a hopeless optimist 

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

Indeed it was.  It was part of a much longer post, but that's all I could fit.

It... It just doesn't sound like him at all, is all.

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

Indeed it was.  It was part of a much longer post, but that's all I could fit.

It... It just doesn't sound like him at all, is all.

Well, unless there are three of you...

[TheConstantOne]

I've been reading some of the planet descriptions from the galaxy map and I have come across a number of worlds that seem to have had their ancient life killed off via "orbital bombardments." This would seem to fit the Reaper profile...but I saw something particularly curious for one of these planets. Orbital bombardments were focused on habitation centers for "an avian species in its Bronze Age." We've been told that the Reapers only harvest sufficiently advanced life...but what if they also want only species with certain genetic traits to reach an advanced state? Perhaps controlling which primitive species lives or dies is part of the Intelligence's method of controlling galactic evolution

[MegumiAzusa]

Ah yes, I remember again

[ivenoidea]

TheConstantOne wrote...

I've been reading some of the planet descriptions from the galaxy map and I have come across a number of worlds that seem to have had their ancient life killed off via "orbital bombardments." This would seem to fit the Reaper profile...but I saw something particularly curious for one of these planets. Orbital bombardments were focused on habitation centers for "an avian species in its Bronze Age." We've been told that the Reapers only harvest sufficiently advanced life...but what if they also want only species with certain genetic traits to reach an advanced state? Perhaps controlling which primitive species lives or dies is part of the Intelligence's method of controlling galactic evolution

Would make sense. Shepard had a vision of primitive beings being killed by something with a "red finger of fire/light" (dont remember exactly) in ME1

[Dwailing]

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

Indeed it was.  It was part of a much longer post, but that's all I could fit.

It... It just doesn't sound like him at all, is all.

Maybe our group brings out the best in him. 

[Dwailing]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, I remember again

Wait a minute, TIM says, "Harness their very essence to bring humanity to the apex of evolution."  Doesn't the kid say something to that effect when describing how Synthesis works? *rhetorical question*

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

Indeed it was.  It was part of a much longer post, but that's all I could fit.

It... It just doesn't sound like him at all, is all.

Well, unless there are three of you...

There actually are. However, my other brother currently lives in London.

[estebanus]

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, I remember again

Wait a minute, TIM says, "Harness their very essence to bring humanity to the apex of evolution."  Doesn't the kid say something to that effect when describing how Synthesis works? *rhetorical question*

The catalyst said that Shepard's essence will be harnessed and absorbed, then sent out across the universe in a green wave of magic.

[Rankincountry]

TheConstantOne wrote...

I've been reading some of the planet descriptions from the galaxy map and I have come across a number of worlds that seem to have had their ancient life killed off via "orbital bombardments." This would seem to fit the Reaper profile...but I saw something particularly curious for one of these planets. Orbital bombardments were focused on habitation centers for "an avian species in its Bronze Age." We've been told that the Reapers only harvest sufficiently advanced life...but what if they also want only species with certain genetic traits to reach an advanced state? Perhaps controlling which primitive species lives or dies is part of the Intelligence's method of controlling galactic evolution

Could be - it would fit what we know of the Reapers' MO. Or maybe one of the dominant species of a long-gone cycle were a vicious bunch who wiped out the primitive inhabitants of the unfortunate world so that they could exploit its resources. Not every mystery in the ME universe needs to be reaper-related.

There are a at least couple of Avian species in the current cycle, Turians and Raloi, though the latter don't appear in game. The Raloi retreat to their homeworld when the Reapers invade and bring down all of their satellites and orbital facilities in the (presumably futile) hope of appearing to be a pre-spaceflight civilisation.

[BleedingUranium]

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, I remember again

Wait a minute, TIM says, "Harness their very essence to bring humanity to the apex of evolution."  Doesn't the kid say something to that effect when describing how Synthesis works? *rhetorical question*

The catalyst said that Shepard's essence will be harnessed and absorbed, then sent out across the universe in a green wave of magic.

Hmm, something tells me that may have been paraphrased

[estebanus]

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Ah yes, I remember again

Wait a minute, TIM says, "Harness their very essence to bring humanity to the apex of evolution."  Doesn't the kid say something to that effect when describing how Synthesis works? *rhetorical question*

The catalyst said that Shepard's essence will be harnessed and absorbed, then sent out across the universe in a green wave of magic.

Hmm, something tells me that may have been paraphrased

Only the latter part!