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[lex0r11]

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BleedingUranium, I just noticed your sig. Was it really my brother who wrote that?

Indeed it was.  It was part of a much longer post, but that's all I could fit.

It... It just doesn't sound like him at all, is all.

He was very emotional that day.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Just a quick thing everyone, if N7 day is for some reason celebrated by Bioware with a Strawberry Chocolate Cake we just may have a link for that easter egg.

[401 Kill]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just a quick thing everyone, if N7 day is for some reason celebrated by Bioware with a Strawberry Chocolate Cake we just may have a link for that easter egg.

That's quite a good idea, if they do that then we know the other Easter eggs will have greater significance as well.

Modifié par 401 Kill, 27 septembre 2012 - 10:20 .

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

ivenoidea wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

I've been reading some of the planet descriptions from the galaxy map and I have come across a number of worlds that seem to have had their ancient life killed off via "orbital bombardments." This would seem to fit the Reaper profile...but I saw something particularly curious for one of these planets. Orbital bombardments were focused on habitation centers for "an avian species in its Bronze Age." We've been told that the Reapers only harvest sufficiently advanced life...but what if they also want only species with certain genetic traits to reach an advanced state? Perhaps controlling which primitive species lives or dies is part of the Intelligence's method of controlling galactic evolution

Would make sense. Shepard had a vision of primitive beings being killed by something with a "red finger of fire/light" (dont remember exactly) in ME1

Are you referring to when you use the trinket the Asari Consort gives you? It gives you a vision of a Cro-Magnon human that ended with a great description of him being killed by that red laser, i.e. Reaper, Protheans used Green for their lasers (presumably throughout their entirety).

Though the Protheans studied humans there was no reason for them, or the Reapers, to attack the humans (though it may explain some human history, Mass Effect had plenty of Ancient Alien refrences)

[TheConstantOne]

ivenoidea wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

I've been reading some of the planet descriptions from the galaxy map and I have come across a number of worlds that seem to have had their ancient life killed off via "orbital bombardments." This would seem to fit the Reaper profile...but I saw something particularly curious for one of these planets. Orbital bombardments were focused on habitation centers for "an avian species in its Bronze Age." We've been told that the Reapers only harvest sufficiently advanced life...but what if they also want only species with certain genetic traits to reach an advanced state? Perhaps controlling which primitive species lives or dies is part of the Intelligence's method of controlling galactic evolution

Would make sense. Shepard had a vision of primitive beings being killed by something with a "red finger of fire/light" (dont remember exactly) in ME1

The cutscene involved primitive humans.  If that red ring of light did emanate from a Reaper ship...it could support the idea that the orbital bombardments are of Reaper origin

Rankincountry wrote...

Could be - it would fit what we know of the Reapers' MO. Or maybe one of the dominant species of a long-gone cycle were a vicious bunch who wiped out the primitive inhabitants of the unfortunate world so that they could exploit its resources. Not every mystery in the ME universe needs to be reaper-related.

There are a at least couple of Avian species in the current cycle, Turians and Raloi, though the latter don't appear in game. The Raloi retreat to their homeworld when the Reapers invade and bring down all of their satellites and orbital facilities in the (presumably futile) hope of appearing to be a pre-spaceflight civilisation.

I agree that the bombardments could be explained in a large number of ways.  But in the interests of speculation...the implications of the bombardments are the result of Reaper invasion are very intriguing.  Such an explanation also correlates very well with the observation ivenoidea mentioned

Edit: Note this is hardly a solid theory...way too many "if"s but the speculation is fun 

Modifié par TheConstantOne, 27 septembre 2012 - 10:54 .

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

But attacking Cro-Magnons makes no sense at all. No technology, barely surviving winters, following herds for food...

Edit: And it keeps the thread alive 

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 27 septembre 2012 - 10:56 .

[Humakt83]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

But attacking Cro-Magnons makes no sense at all. No technology, barely surviving winters, following herds for food...

"It is time for more experiments."

Reapers only wanted to know whether humans could be suitable reproduction material on later date.

[401 Kill]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

But attacking Cro-Magnons makes no sense at all. No technology, barely surviving winters, following herds for food...

Edit: And it keeps the thread alive 

It could be that an intelligent species was studying/uplifting them, but did not suficiently destroy evidence of involvement (like how the Protheans terminated all contact with humans).

Modifié par 401 Kill, 27 septembre 2012 - 11:03 .

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

401 Kill wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

But attacking Cro-Magnons makes no sense at all. No technology, barely surviving winters, following herds for food...

Edit: And it keeps the thread alive 

It could be that an intelligent species was studying/uplifting them, but did not suficiently destroy evidence of involvement (like how the Protheans terminateed all contact with humans).

A species other than the Protheans? Who set out to dominate other races? Haha I don't know, if the Protheans cut contact with the humans then any other race would too. And to the above post above the quoted one... How much experimentation can you conduct on the dust and ash remains of a human toasted by a Reaper laser? Haha

[401 Kill]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

A species other than the Protheans? Who set out to dominate other races? Haha I don't know, if the Protheans cut contact with the humans then any other race would too. 

The Leviathans were not the Protheans. The Leviathans dominated other races. You cannot determine that any other cycle had races that didn't interact with other under-developed species (the Salarians uplifted the Krogan). 

Modifié par 401 Kill, 27 septembre 2012 - 11:18 .

[Rankincountry]

401 Kill wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

But attacking Cro-Magnons makes no sense at all. No technology, barely surviving winters, following herds for food...

Edit: And it keeps the thread alive 

It could be that an intelligent species was studying/uplifting them, but did not suficiently destroy evidence of involvement (like how the Protheans terminated all contact with humans).

Nice explanation, I didn't think of that. I wonder if uplift of species can result in technological developments that are not part of the Reapers' plans? In which case Cro-Magnon man was lucky that the Protheans bailed.

[BleedingUranium]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Just a quick thing everyone, if N7 day is for some reason celebrated by Bioware with a Strawberry Chocolate Cake we just may have a link for that easter egg.

Well, the N7 colour scheme is black, red and white detail, and blue lights. That's pretty close to the cake

[ElSuperGecko]

ivenoidea wrote...
That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

Yep, the similarity is there.  And it's not the only time we see something similar to this, either.  Ever noticed that the gasping intake of breath Shepard takes in the the high EMS Destroy ending is also identical to the gasping intake of breath Shep takes after waking from each of the dream sequences?

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Wait you lost me. Are you saying the vision from ME implies that the Leviathans used early humans before the Protheans?

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

ElSuperGecko wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...
That sound when shepard wakes up from the hallucination induced by leviathan reminds me of the odd sound shepard makes while "waking up" on the citadel.

Yep, the similarity is there.  And it's not the only time we see something similar to this, either.  Ever noticed that the gasping intake of breath Shepard takes in the the high EMS Destroy ending is also identical to the gasping intake of breath Shep takes after waking from each of the dream sequences?

I thought he only gasps after the first dream? The second dream cuts to the random datapad and the third goes to LI  conversation.

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:07 .

[ElSuperGecko]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
I thought he only gasps after the first dream? The second dream cuts to the random hologram and the third goes to LI  conversation.

First Dream Sequence:  (1:40) 

Second Dream sequence: (1:50)

Third Dream sequence:  (1:05) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNxOGOrJ6L4&t=1m5s

Shepard Breathes Ending:  (5:40) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWSBbO-Ec8&t=5m40s

An audible, almost shocked intake of breath each time. 

Edit:  have moved clips to the relevant positions.

Modifié par ElSuperGecko, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:07 .

[401 Kill]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Wait you lost me. Are you saying the vision from ME implies that the Leviathans used early humans before the Protheans?

No, I was never talking about Humans, I was referring to the "Avian species destroyed while in the Bronze age" and possible senarios as to why the reapers might have attacked "primative" species. It apears we have a mistake in communication, and are talking about 2 separate topics. Apologies.

Modifié par 401 Kill, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:05 .

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

@401 Kill Ah, yes you are right, I forgot your post was refering to the Bronze-aged Avian species, my bad

@ElSuperGecko Thanks! I see now. Or rather hear.

[zioninzion]

"There is a reason for everything that happens Shepard, even if you don't understand it at the time"

~Ashley Williams

Wake up Shepard

Modifié par zioninzion, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:09 .

[ElSuperGecko]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
@ElSuperGecko Thanks! I see now. Or rather hear.

No problem, it could be just a coincidence... but every time Shepard wakes from a nightmare, he does so with an audible gasp for breath.  And he does it in the his EMS ending.  And after EC, he does it after being transported up to the Citadel, and he does it after the vision with the Leviathan now as well... it's something to be aware of, I think. 

[MegumiAzusa]

401 Kill wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Wait you lost me. Are you saying the vision from ME implies that the Leviathans used early humans before the Protheans?

No, I was never talking about Humans, I was referring to the "Avian species destroyed while in the Bronze age" and possible senarios as to why the reapers might have attacked "primative" species. It apears we have a mistake in communication, and are talking about 2 separate topics. Apologies.

Btw the Reapers could also just have Reaped the Harvesters because they were the result of bio engineering, no matter who did it.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

The Harvesters (flying long necked insectoid creatures?) were natural organic creatures...

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 28 septembre 2012 - 12:15 .

[401 Kill]

@Megumi- Good point, one could make the same argument for the collecter swarms. (Unless we know where they already come from)

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Harvesters were first described in The Art of Mass Effect. They were intended to be in the original game as an enemy that could only be killed in the Mako; however, they were excluded due to time and budget constraints. They were later added in Mass Effect 2, but cannot be killed.
Cut animations in the Mass Effect 2 game files show that the Harvesters were intended to be fought on the ground and actually killed.

From the Wiki, which mentions no bioengineering.

About Reapers using them:
During the Reaper invasion of the galaxy, numerous harvesters were corrupted and utilized by the Reapers as airborne troop transports.

http://masseffect.wi.../wiki/Harvester

[Big_Boss9]

For people who were asking earlier what, if any, DLC are included in the Mass Effect Trilogy Pack:

On PC, Mass Effect will include Bring Down the Sky and Pinnacle Station on disk. For Mass Effect 2, Cerberus Network will be included which features Zaeed – The Price of Revenge, The Firewalker Pack, Cerberus Assault Gear, Arc Projector heavy weapon, and Normandy Crash site mission. For Mass Effect 3, Online Pass will be included granting players access to co-op multiplayer.

On Xbox 360, Bring Down the Sky and Pinnacle Station are not included with Mass Effect, however they are available as stand-alone downloads through Xbox LIVE. For Mass Effect 2, Cerberus Network will be included and Online Pass will be included for Mass Effect 3.

Source: http://masseffect.com/about/trilogy/