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[paxxton]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Been listening to the soundtrack a lot...does anyone else find it odd that there is so much "Reaper" noise ochrestrated into the songs? I get it being part of the game...but why so integrated with the music?

It is in Leaving Earth. Where else?

[plfranke]

Today I believe. I hope Hellish integrates his new theory into the video. You all should find it pretty entertaining.

[spotlessvoid]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Dream 2 is the most interesting because it's vague about whether Shepard was actually asleep.

I agree.

I still find it funny how the dreams are still unexplained. I understand they're supposed to be dreams, but I can't deny I had no idea what I was watching every time I played through them.

It's hilarious how the dreams incorporate several factors of indoctrination as described by the codex, yet many just hand wave it away

[spotlessvoid]

plfranke wrote...

Today I believe. I hope Hellish integrates his new theory into the video. You all should find it pretty entertaining.

I seriously doubt it

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

spotlessvoid wrote...

The Reapers want more than just victory. I wonder how much a Reapers construction is effected by the quantity of organic paste is accumulated? They really could be trying to indoctrinate Shepard to facilitate that process

Also, the Reapers can't really afford to take many losses during a cycle because of their method of creation. 4-5 dead Reapers per cycle is going to defeat them through attrition. They need things to be as easy as possible.

Exactly, if Shepard gave the order to retreat (with some (fake) reasoning behind it) how many of the fleets in orbit do you think would follow that order? My guess is alot.

An Indoctrinated Shepard playing his cards right would keep the entire battle passive and lure fleets into traps allowing an easy and cost free victory for the Reapers.

In comparision if the current all out battle continues the Reapers will probably win, but they will loose alot of ships (alot when compared to a usual cycle).

Even without any underlying sinister motivations Indoctrinating Shepard as he is the key figure keeping the fleets together is a good idea purely from a mathmatical standpoint.

[401 Kill]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Dream 2 is the most interesting because it's vague about whether Shepard was actually asleep.

I agree.

I still find it funny how the dreams are still unexplained. I understand they're supposed to be dreams, but I can't deny I had no idea what I was watching every time I played through them.

It's hilarious how the dreams incorporate several factors of indoctrination as described by the codex, yet many just hand wave it away

I do not think Shepard is dreaming at all. When he snaps out of it, he is sitting in a chair, on a datapad. I think he is awake and hallucinating. This would mean that Shepard is most definitely on the road to indoctrination.

[spotlessvoid]

The crucible obviously exists. It has to do something right? Well, I guess it's possible it's the red herring and it's just meant to waste time and resources before it shoots out a flag with "BANG!" on it. But aside from that, it's either space magic 3 beam, reaper trap, or an anti reaper weapon. What else could it be? I guess it could be legit and just not work. Nobody has successfully fired one, that we know of. Who the hell says it even fires?

[spotlessvoid]

401 Kill wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Dream 2 is the most interesting because it's vague about whether Shepard was actually asleep.

I agree.

I still find it funny how the dreams are still unexplained. I understand they're supposed to be dreams, but I can't deny I had no idea what I was watching every time I played through them.

It's hilarious how the dreams incorporate several factors of indoctrination as described by the codex, yet many just hand wave it away

I do not think Shepard is dreaming at all. When he snaps out of it, he is sitting in a chair, on a datapad. I think he is awake and hallucinating. This would mean that Shepard is most definitely on the road to indoctrination.

It's not impossible he just nodded off. Regardless, obviously if he wasn't sleeping then that's definitive proof. But per usual, it's ambiguous. Irregardless (yes, I know it isn't) the dreams lean heavily towards indoctrination because of both the content and the very fact that they occur in the game.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

spotlessvoid wrote...

The crucible obviously exists. It has to do something right? Well, I guess it's possible it's the red herring and it's just meant to waste time and resources before it shoots out a flag with "BANG!" on it. But aside from that, it's either space magic 3 beam, reaper trap, or an anti reaper weapon. What else could it be? I guess it could be legit and just not work. Nobody has successfully fired one, that we know of. Who the hell says it even fires?

An old theory of mine is that it is the Reapers who have removed all knowledge of what the "Catalyst" is from the blue prints. Thus each cycle wastes time and ressources building it, but the Reapers can control what the Cycle thinks the Catalyst is allowing them to set a trap.

That would mean we either have to figure out the true Catalyst or repurpose the Crucible (it still produces an incredible amount of energy, we just need to direct it through or at something).

[spotlessvoid]

I think the catalyst is money lol

[Fiery Phoenix]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Dream 2 is the most interesting because it's vague about whether Shepard was actually asleep.

I agree.

I still find it funny how the dreams are still unexplained. I understand they're supposed to be dreams, but I can't deny I had no idea what I was watching every time I played through them.

It's hilarious how the dreams incorporate several factors of indoctrination as described by the codex, yet many just hand wave it away

I believe that has more to do with the ambiguity of the dreams than anything else. The overall atmosphere of all three dream sequences is so weird and mysterious, so much that, during my first playthrough of the game, I thought the first dream sequence was not a dream at all; I actually thought Shepard was on a mission for real. Took me a minute or two to realize what was going on.

But you have a point: they do incorporate various factors of indoctrination, most notably the "oily shadows" first described by the Rachni Queen on Noveria, as well as the mysterious whispers and sounds. Both of these factors are also present in the final confrontation with TIM, but I don't know if that's supposed to mean anything as I don't fully believe in IT just yet.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 28 septembre 2012 - 07:15 .

[401 Kill]

@spotlessvoid- Good point. It is just ambiguous as to what exactly Shepard it doing, but one thing is clear. The dream fulfills several requirements for Indoctrination and that is the most important feature of the dream sequences. It is in the codex like you said, so there can be no debate.

[401 Kill]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think the catalyst is money lol

It's better than it being a little boy AI!

[Genetic Destiny]

So, how has Leviathan contributed to IT? I think it strenghthens the thought of Harbinger being the Catalyst. He is the oldest reaper after all.

On a side note, I'm kinda hesitant to trust the Leviathans. They're too powerful, and I'm positive they still have the arrogance you'd expect from a reaper.

[spotlessvoid]

401 Kill wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think the catalyst is money lol

It's better than it being a little boy AI!

a 40 minute monologue from Kaidan would be better than that. 

[401 Kill]

Genetic Destiny wrote...

So, how has Leviathan contributed to IT? I think it strenghthens the thought of Harbinger being the Catalyst. He is the oldest reaper after all.

On a side note, I'm kinda hesitant to trust the Leviathans. They're too powerful, and I'm positive they still have the arrogance you'd expect from a reaper.

The sequence where Leviathan talks with Shepard inside his mind is eerily similar to the desicion room (Shepard on his knees, only happened in arrival and in the desicion chamber). 

[jojon2se]

Well, there is always the question of just what sort of reaction the Catalyst is intended to speed up. This is dependent on who named it, which one would guess would be the original designer of the Crucible.

If one, for example, assume the Crucible is a trap, the catalyst could well be a person who makes a new reaper really "come together" -- not only could an indoctrinated "catalyst" Shepard be a very effective mole, but maybe the indoctrination device that (again presumably) holds each reaper nation together, is more effective in assimilating specimen of a certain species, once it has "fundamentally" merged with one of them - preferrably a leader type character, because that would be role (s)he'd have.

So, in this case... "Catalyst" in the sense that it would promote the "reaction" between human "substance" and synthetic "substance", all poured into a vessel made for such a purpose: a "crucible". EDIT: Product of the reaction, obviously: A Reaper.

EDIT: ONE possible interpretation, from ONE angle. Also, hung up on nomenclature.

Modifié par jojon2se, 28 septembre 2012 - 07:44 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Hello.

[HellishFiend]

Hey everyone! Friends, new faces, and lurkers alike, I hope you are all doing well. Turbo and I have been working hard to bring you Choose Wisely episode 2. While unfortunately I wont be able to release it today, I do have the next best thing. The trailer and release date!


Choose Wisely Episode 2 Trailer

I do apologize for not providing the episode when we originally planned, but we had some unforeseen difficulties, such as Turbo's main PC dying. We are also continuing to refine and streamline our production process, and will likely be expanding the production team to 3 people for episode 3, to make sure we can hit our target date of the last Friday of each month.

I personally think this episode is going to be well worth the wait, and I hope you will all agree. You can expect a lot of cool stuff from it, like:

Deep exposition on a wide range of topics and themes related to Indoctrination symptoms
~30 minutes in length, fully narrated
Another great soundtrack, including more music from Jack Wall

And just like with Episode 1, we will explore several tidbits that are rarely/never discussed here in the IT thread, so hopefully there will be something new for everyone! 

Thanks for your patience and support, and I hope that I will see you all next Thursday. If anyone would like to reach me before then for any reason, I am always available by PM. 

And with that, back to work I go! Take care, everyone!

-Hellish

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Hello.

Why hello there.

[Rankincountry]

401 Kill wrote...

Genetic Destiny wrote...

So, how has Leviathan contributed to IT? I think it strenghthens the thought of Harbinger being the Catalyst. He is the oldest reaper after all.

On a side note, I'm kinda hesitant to trust the Leviathans. They're too powerful, and I'm positive they still have the arrogance you'd expect from a reaper.

The sequence where Leviathan talks with Shepard inside his mind is eerily similar to the desicion room (Shepard on his knees, only happened in arrival and in the desicion chamber). 

Add in the resemblance of the device in London that is producing the conduit beam to Object Rho in Arrival - the parallels between all three scenes has to be a clue.

[Rankincountry]

HellishFiend wrote...

Hey everyone! Friends, new faces, and lurkers alike, I hope you are all doing well. Turbo and I have been working hard to bring you Choose Wisely episode 2. While unfortunately I wont be able to release it today, I do have the next best thing. The trailer and release date!

-Hellish

Great news, and thanks to you and Turbo for pulling it together. If it's even half as good as episode 1 I can't wait.

[BansheeOwnage]

HellishFiend wrote...
we will explore several tidbits that are rarely/never discussed here in the IT thread, so hopefully there will be something new for everyone! 

Why not just post them here so we can discuss them? It's not like we have a vault of new intel to work off of...

[BansheeOwnage]

Rankincountry wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Genetic Destiny wrote...

So, how has Leviathan contributed to IT? I think it strenghthens the thought of Harbinger being the Catalyst. He is the oldest reaper after all.

On a side note, I'm kinda hesitant to trust the Leviathans. They're too powerful, and I'm positive they still have the arrogance you'd expect from a reaper.

The sequence where Leviathan talks with Shepard inside his mind is eerily similar to the desicion room (Shepard on his knees, only happened in arrival and in the desicion chamber). 

Add in the resemblance of the device in London that is producing the conduit beam to Object Rho in Arrival - the parallels between all three scenes has to be a clue.

Don't forget that 1 datapad pretty much explained that the beam indoctrinates people...

[401 Kill]

Rankincountry wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hey everyone! Friends, new faces, and lurkers alike, I hope you are all doing well. Turbo and I have been working hard to bring you Choose Wisely episode 2. While unfortunately I wont be able to release it today, I do have the next best thing. The trailer and release date!

-Hellish

Great news, and thanks to you and Turbo for pulling it together. If it's even half as good as episode 1 I can't wait.

+1. This is going to be good!