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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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estebanus wrote...

You shouldn't bother answering this. I won't be here.

It's like I'm in some sort of tragedy, where we just miss each other by that much... Posted Image

But I'm still on top. Posted Image Come back here!

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masster blaster wrote...

Sorry ment my " Good point.":D

Shepard's mind will be Harbinger's. Also,

RELINQUISH YOUR FORM TO US.
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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry ment my " Good point.":D

Shepard's mind will be Harbinger's. Also,

RELINQUISH YOUR FORM TO US.
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Shepard + Harbinger = Megatron lol

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If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry ment my " Good point.":D

Shepard's mind will be Harbinger's. Also,

RELINQUISH YOUR FORM TO US.
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Ya. Still people doubt this.^

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[quote]masster blaster wrote...

[quote]masster blaster wrote...



This is the scene where Shepard survives the pieces from Sovereign. And look at 7:33 keep watching and look at Shepard's left arm. Look where the hand is.

Now tell me Shepard does  cover this same spot when Shepard is holding his/her side, where a gun shot is present.


http://www.youtube.c...1&v=oGIf7SXgHlw

i want you to watch the Renegade ending for ME2 again and pay attention.

http://www.youtube.c...e=results_video

okay this is the Conversation Shepard, and Saren have at Virmire.

And it has Spanish sub titles, but English dub.

It's very interesting



Now watch this. This is from the final battle in ME1/last Conversation with Saren. Renegade

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=HH4E_wpgtlA
Now this is the same scene, but with Paragon Shepard. .

From video 2 at the end of ME2 Shepard tells TIM that if " You start
being selfish, dreaming about power, and we will all pay the price."

Correct
me if I am wrong, but didn't TIM crave power, and lead him to believe
that he can Control the Reapers, and we did pay the price because he got
corrupted by the lust of power to Control the Reapers.

Now in
Video 3 Saren is telling Shepard that what he is doing is to save
everyone in the galaxy, by helping the Reapers, which Shepard can do at
the end of ME3 Synthesis.Now when Shepard ask do you expect the Reapers
will let us live, Saren tells Shepard " .....We Organics are driven by
emotion instead of logic, and we will fight even though we can not win,
but if we work with the Reapers. Make our self useful. Think how many
lives can be spared."

Synthesis, and Control spare everyone's lives.
Then
Shepard tells Saren" You are afraid Sovereign is Controlling you. You
are afraid he is Controlling your thoughts."
well isn't that the same boat
we are in at the ending. We are afraid that the Catalyst is Contriving
us to pick his choices he likes, and we begin to question maybe the
Catalyst is right.
Then Saren tells Shepard that " I've studied the
affect of Indoctrination. The more Control Sovereign exerts, The less
capable the subject becomes......Sovereign needs me to find the Conduit.
my mind is still my own for now.The transformation between ally to servant can be unsettling. I will not let that happen to me"


One
the Catalyst needs Shepard to find a NEW Solution, and Shepard's mind
is still our own for now, until you pick Control, and Synthesis. And we
serve the Reapers in Control, and Synthesis because we are not their ally's, but we serve them in the end.

Then Shepard tells Saren "Sovereign is manipulating you, and you don"t even now it"

The Catalyst try's to manipulate both Shepard, and the player, into agreeing with his logic.

then
Saren says " NO Sovereign needs me. If I find the Conduit 
I HAVE BEEN PROMISED TO
BE FREE FROM THE INEVITABLE.THIS IS MY ONLY HOPE"


The Catalyst promises that the cycle will end in  Synthesis. Also if we help the Catalyst with his problem, then we live, yet Shepard dies.

Then
after Shepard tells Saren that he is a Specter Saren tells Shepard " my
way is the ONLY WAY any of us will survive. I am forging an alliance
between us and the Reapers between ORGANICS AN MACHINES, and in doing so
I WILL SAVE more LIVES than ever existed.


Now didn't the
Catalyst say that this is the only way we can find peace. Where organics
and machines can live together, and he promises that Shepard will save everyone, by offering his choice.

Also I forgot that Saren say the exact same thing that TIMS says.

Saren" You will undo all that I have accomplished"

TIM:" You will undo all that I have accomplished."

in
Video 4 renegade Shepard tells Saren you could have fought. You could
have resisted.Instead you surrendered. You quit. Somkingotter took the
words right out of my mouth,


"I like how ME1 Renegade Shepard outlines the choices you have at the end of ME3

You could have fought: destroy
You could have resisted: control
Instead you surrendered: synthesis
You quit: refuse"





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wanted to bring it back up for debate.

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 septembre 2012 - 01:53 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You shouldn't bother answering this. I won't be here.

It's like I'm in some sort of tragedy, where we just miss each other by that much... Posted Image

But I'm still on top. Posted Image Come back here!


No, here's a tragedy...

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And I can't headshot.

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Reporting from the front of my super low ems playthrough. It is interesting how nice the dialogs after the missions are, if you're talking to some for the first time at these points. For example Chakwas says some funny short line about the state of the med bay after Mordin cured the Genophage. Some of the things actually look like they should trigger always but do only when you're talking to someone for the first time, which is pretty sad.

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You shouldn't bother answering this. I won't be here.

It's like I'm in some sort of tragedy, where we just miss each other by that much... Posted Image

But I'm still on top. Posted Image Come back here!


No, here's a tragedy...

Posted Image

And I can't headshot.


http://t0.gstatic.co...oUj6t3asTurcuyw

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Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You shouldn't bother answering this. I won't be here.

It's like I'm in some sort of tragedy, where we just miss each other by that much... Posted Image

But I'm still on top. Posted Image Come back here!


No, here's a tragedy...

Posted Image

And I can't headshot.

Dude, I am so jealous. I only have a Saber 6, and I can headshot. Luckily, It's still one in the head, so w/e. Posted Image

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masster blaster wrote...

wanted to bring it back up for debate.

It would be more likely for people to read it if it was shorter. Posted Image

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TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption

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spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


Huh? Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

wanted to bring it back up for debate.

It would be more likely for people to read it if it was shorter. Posted Image


What? the one thing that I took my time to come up with, that could be considered as holes*** that makes sense, and you say it needs to be shorter.:crying: jk=]

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spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


He talk to you too? From reading all the posts earlier I could tell pilfranke has been talked to by Hellish as well.

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So I reverse trolled the IT hate threads and ended up trolling myself by getting angry/sad at the abject stupidity I encountered. Lesson learned

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TJBartlemus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


He talk to you too? From reading all the posts earlier I could tell pilfranke has been talked to by Hellish as well.


lol super top secret isn't so super top secret

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spotlessvoid wrote...

So I reverse trolled the IT hate threads and ended up trolling myself by getting angry/sad at the abject stupidity I encountered. Lesson learned


?

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BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


Huh? Posted Image


Big conspiracy. With what respect I have with Hellish from his early days as an ITer I promised not to tell. Sorry...

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spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


He talk to you too? From reading all the posts earlier I could tell pilfranke has been talked to by Hellish as well.


lol super top secret isn't so super top secret


Do you support it or not? :huh: Myself I can't support it till I get solid proof which he refused to give. <_< Perhaps there will be in Ep. 2 if he has decided to go that way...

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:11 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


Huh? Posted Image


Big conspiracy. With what respect I have with Hellish from his early days as an ITer I promised not to tell. Sorry...


As in, one he knows about, or one he's planning?

EDIT: Wait, is this that stupid "MP is a simulation" thing he was talking about? I like Hellish, but I'm not at all convinced about that.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:12 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

So I reverse trolled the IT hate threads and ended up trolling myself by getting angry/sad at the abject stupidity I encountered. Lesson learned

Yeah, don't bother doing that, just post normally like us. The problem is people actually thought you were being serious. Posted Image It's sad.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:14 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


Huh? Posted Image


Big conspiracy. With what respect I have with Hellish from his early days as an ITer I promised not to tell. Sorry...


As in, one he knows about, or one he's planning?


SHHHHHHHHHH.....super secret. ;) Not a plan. Not the MP theory.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:13 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

So I reverse trolled the IT hate threads and ended up trolling myself by getting angry/sad at the abject stupidity I encountered. Lesson learned

Yeah, don't bother doing that, just post normally like us. The problem is people actually though you were being serious. Posted Image It's sad.


You forgot the t. in thought


prof that you did forget the T.

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:16 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

If Hellish's Ep. 2 goes the way I think it does...and it probably will from his behavior in our last discussion about a month or 2 ago...it should be interesting to see reactions afterwards. Just my 2 cents about it.

That isn't ready for public consumption


He talk to you too? From reading all the posts earlier I could tell pilfranke has been talked to by Hellish as well.


lol super top secret isn't so super top secret


Do you support it or not? :huh: Myself I can't support it till I get solid proof which he refused to give. <_< Perhaps there will be in Ep. 2 if he has decided to go that way...

Apparently it doesn't need evidence, because it's the truth. That's were he lost my support. It belongs in the realm of fanfiction, unlike IT. Also unlike IT, that actually does sound like a religion. I miss when Hellish wasn't crazy. Posted Image