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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Big_Boss9 wrote...

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Apparently it doesn't need evidence, because it's the truth. That's were he lost my support. It belongs in the realm of fanfiction, unlike IT. Also unlike IT, that actually does sound like a religion. I miss when Hellish wasn't crazy.


Yeah, the "Whether you believe this or not is irrelevant, it's true" (proceeds to provide no evidence whatsoever) attitude was very off putting. But, I've enjoyed Hellish's posts for a long time prior to this recent ... shift, so I'll at least check out the next episode.


You got told too? :blush:

No, I was referring to his original "lulz MP is fake guyz" topic. Struck me as arrogant, dismissive, and unwilling to engage in a back and forth on any level. It seems that attitude has continued. Ah well.


*shrugs* :blush:

edit - On top!!! 

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:32 .


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Hey what ever happened to Rosewind Freddycast, and Either? I can name more people, but you get the point.

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Hellish may be seeking attention or "listening to the evidence" as a friend put it-but he's a good guy who has always been willing to thoroughly answer any question I've asked him. It sucks to see it's come to this


Not berating you guys because you're right and yes he needs to just tell everyone or keep it to himself

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Hey what ever happened to Rosewind Freddycast, and Either? I can name more people, but you get the point.


Probably just got bored with it.  It's bound to happen since BW is drawing this out so damn long.

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HellishFiend wrote...

Hey everyone! Friends, new faces, and lurkers alike, I hope you are all doing well. Turbo and I have been working hard to bring you Choose Wisely episode 2. While unfortunately I wont be able to release it today, I do have the next best thing. The trailer and release date!

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Choose Wisely Episode 2 Trailer

I do apologize for not providing the episode when we originally planned, but we had some unforeseen difficulties, such as Turbo's main PC dying. We are also continuing to refine and streamline our production process, and will likely be expanding the production team to 3 people for episode 3, to make sure we can hit our target date of the last Friday of each month.

I personally think this episode is going to be well worth the wait, and I hope you will all agree. You can expect a lot of cool stuff from it, like:

Deep exposition on a wide range of topics and themes related to Indoctrination symptoms
~30 minutes in length, fully narrated
Another great soundtrack, including more music from Jack Wall

And just like with Episode 1, we will explore several tidbits that are rarely/never discussed here in the IT thread, so hopefully there will be something new for everyone! 

Thanks for your patience and support, and I hope that I will see you all next Thursday. If anyone would like to reach me before then for any reason, I am always available by PM. 

And with that, back to work I go! Take care, everyone!

-Hellish


wonder what it will be?

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:35 .


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Rifneno wrote...

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Hey what ever happened to Rosewind Freddycast, and Either? I can name more people, but you get the point.


Probably just got bored with it.  It's bound to happen since BW is drawing this out so damn long.


Ya but I remember Arian Rose Hellish Trubo, byne, and Estebauns would go into talks about stuff I didn't really pay attention to,  and man do I miss those days.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

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Always nice to hear someone has to profile himself, telling half of the people with the promise not to talk about it. If he would be interested in anything else but fishing for compliments he wouldn't do it in this childish manner.

Rifneno wrote...
I'm rarely actually offended or angry.  But that self-congratulatory dimestore psychology idiocy did it.

Had to smile at this bit.


Sorta ironic huh. Promise to not tell anyone yet HE tells EVERYONE.

They didn't tell me :C

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Always nice to hear someone has to profile himself, telling half of the people with the promise not to talk about it. If he would be interested in anything else but fishing for compliments he wouldn't do it in this childish manner.

Rifneno wrote...
I'm rarely actually offended or angry.  But that self-congratulatory dimestore psychology idiocy did it.

Had to smile at this bit.


Sorta ironic huh. Promise to not tell anyone yet HE tells EVERYONE.

They didn't tell me :C


Me either

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Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Always nice to hear someone has to profile himself, telling half of the people with the promise not to talk about it. If he would be interested in anything else but fishing for compliments he wouldn't do it in this childish manner.

Rifneno wrote...
I'm rarely actually offended or angry.  But that self-congratulatory dimestore psychology idiocy did it.

Had to smile at this bit.


God you're a ****.  Don't you have anything better to do than cyberstalk me?

Whoa there tone it down. Megumi is a nice person. Posted Image

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BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

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Apparently it doesn't need evidence, because it's the truth. That's were he lost my support. It belongs in the realm of fanfiction, unlike IT. Also unlike IT, that actually does sound like a religion. I miss when Hellish wasn't crazy. Posted Image


YESSSSSS!!!!!! You know how I feel!!! Thank god!!!!! Those were my exact thoughts!!!! 


The only arguement I heard in support of it was something like "enemies don't come in 11 waves in real life". Of course they don't, but if that's enough to say it's a simulation, then every mulitplayer ever is a simulation Posted Image


No no no. Not the MP Theory. Something totally different. 


Banshee just told me Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image


Yeah.... :pinched:

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Here's my opinion on the whole Hellish thing. I do think his attitude changed a lot, and some of the stuff he says is utter nonsense, but that shouldn't keep you from listening to some of the points he makes that are actually legitimate. I think the old phrase is the devil will feed you a sea of truth to get you to drink an ounce of poison. Well, here it's the opposite. There's a few ounces of truth in Hellish's sea of lies. For instance, his multiplayer being a simulation idea is a thought provoking theory. However, at the moment it adds no important revelation to the ending. He probably has other decent points too that may in fact add something to the ending. I would encourage people to try and ignore his condescending attitude and points that have no basis, in favor of looking for what could actually have some weight.

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plfranke wrote...

Here's my opinion on the whole Hellish thing. I do think his attitude changed a lot, and some of the stuff he says is utter nonsense, but that shouldn't keep you from listening to some of the points he makes that are actually legitimate. I think the old phrase is the devil will feed you a sea of truth to get you to drink an ounce of poison. Well, here it's the opposite. There's a few ounces of truth in Hellish's sea of lies. For instance, his multiplayer being a simulation idea is a thought provoking theory. However, at the moment it adds no important revelation to the ending. He probably has other decent points too that may in fact add something to the ending. I would encourage people to try and ignore his condescending attitude and points that have no basis, in favor of looking for what could actually have some weight.

Would be nice if these points are shared openly, not behind closed doors until months later.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Always nice to hear someone has to profile himself, telling half of the people with the promise not to talk about it. If he would be interested in anything else but fishing for compliments he wouldn't do it in this childish manner.

Rifneno wrote...
I'm rarely actually offended or angry.  But that self-congratulatory dimestore psychology idiocy did it.

Had to smile at this bit.


God you're a ****.  Don't you have anything better to do than cyberstalk me?

Whoa there tone it down. Megumi is a nice person. Posted Image


Nope.  We can't stand each other.  Ask some of the long time IT'ers, it goes back to thread 1.  The difference is, I go out of my way to avoid that pustule, whereas it takes every opportunity to antagonize me.  I am not the one to "tone it down".  That... disease actually mocked me over a disability I mentioned in a post to Arian, which it knows nothing about, and I'm the one whose told to tone it down for a censored word when I keep getting antagonized?  No.

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I promise I will never put my theories forth as facts and act in a condescending manner, even after I'm done my video. Posted Image

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Rifneno seriously there's a difference between an assertive attitude and just being annoying and unreasonable. This isn't even something that just happenes every once in a while or with a particular person. It happens constantly and with multiple people. Why do you have all this hate dude?

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Rifneno wrote...

Nope.  We can't stand each other.  Ask some of the long time IT'ers, it goes back to thread 1.  The difference is, I go out of my way to avoid that pustule, whereas it takes every opportunity to antagonize me.  I am not the one to "tone it down".  That... disease actually mocked me over a disability I mentioned in a post to Arian, which it knows nothing about, and I'm the one whose told to tone it down for a censored word when I keep getting antagonized?  No.

You're right, I don't know the whole story. But it seems generally okay to other people.

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plfranke wrote...

Rifneno seriously there's a difference between an assertive attitude and just being annoying and unreasonable. This isn't even something that just happenes every once in a while or with a particular person. It happens constantly and with multiple people. Why do you have all this hate dude?


Why did you throw a fit and start trolling us, yelling "IT is fake" from the rooftops because people got off topic for a couple pages?

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plfranke wrote...

Here's my opinion on the whole Hellish thing. I do think his attitude changed a lot, and some of the stuff he says is utter nonsense, but that shouldn't keep you from listening to some of the points he makes that are actually legitimate. I think the old phrase is the devil will feed you a sea of truth to get you to drink an ounce of poison. Well, here it's the opposite. There's a few ounces of truth in Hellish's sea of lies. For instance, his multiplayer being a simulation idea is a thought provoking theory. However, at the moment it adds no important revelation to the ending. He probably has other decent points too that may in fact add something to the ending. I would encourage people to try and ignore his condescending attitude and points that have no basis, in favor of looking for what could actually have some weight.


Good points, and I will watch the new video. As for the MP thing, while there's little evidence for, and a decent amount against it, the main reason I don't see it as being a possibility is what I bolded above. What would be the point? What would it change?

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Wait what it happening?? I feel left out.

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:53 .


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I was actually thinking about doing an epic troll on Hellish and posting his theory as my own and acting exactly like he does. Like if someone was going to argue with it I was just going to say You can believe what you want but it's the truth! Then I was going to laugh it up at the negative response it would get from people. I was convinced by someone with better judgement that Hellish probably didn't have that coming, and I agreed. Still though, many laughs could of been had.

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plfranke wrote...

I was actually thinking about doing an epic troll on Hellish and posting his theory as my own and acting exactly like he does. Like if someone was going to argue with it I was just going to say You can believe what you want but it's the truth! Then I was going to laugh it up at the negative response it would get from people. I was convinced by someone with better judgement that Hellish probably didn't have that coming, and I agreed. Still though, many laughs could of been had.


NO just no.

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plfranke wrote...

I was actually thinking about doing an epic troll on Hellish and posting his theory as my own and acting exactly like he does. Like if someone was going to argue with it I was just going to say You can believe what you want but it's the truth! Then I was going to laugh it up at the negative response it would get from people. I was convinced by someone with better judgement that Hellish probably didn't have that coming, and I agreed. Still though, many laughs could of been had.


Now that would just be evil. I respect Hellish too much to ever do that or allow someone to do that. I wouldn't want it done to me. <_<

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plfranke wrote...

I was actually thinking about doing an epic troll on Hellish and posting his theory as my own and acting exactly like he does. Like if someone was going to argue with it I was just going to say You can believe what you want but it's the truth! Then I was going to laugh it up at the negative response it would get from people. I was convinced by someone with better judgement that Hellish probably didn't have that coming, and I agreed. Still though, many laughs could of been had.

I like laughing :o

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MissMaster_2 wrote...

Wait what it happening?? I feel left out.


So do many of us, to varying degrees. Basically, somebody has a crazy theory. Posted Image

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Rifneno wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rifneno seriously there's a difference between an assertive attitude and just being annoying and unreasonable. This isn't even something that just happenes every once in a while or with a particular person. It happens constantly and with multiple people. Why do you have all this hate dude?


Why did you throw a fit and start trolling us, yelling "IT is fake" from the rooftops because people got off topic for a couple pages?

I can't stand the idea of control being a valid ending. The IT thread is one of the few places I can go where I don't have to listen to people use totally illogical arguments about how synthesis is fine and control is fine. So when I hear paxxton going off about it constantly, eventually it got on my nerves. I also cannot stand Estebanus. The whole thread seemed to unite against me when I got into an argument with them, and that caused me to go full troll mode. I do actually regret going troll but what's done is done.