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[BansheeOwnage]

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Actually, I think the number of people I like on here is higher than the number of people I like in "real life". A bit strange to say, but there you go.

Probably because you get people of every type in real life. Here, we have a collection of intelligent and likeable people!

Actually, I came to a realization the other day.

I think we have a collection of people in here who paid attention to the themes and morals of Mass Effect. We are tolerant, caring, diverse, determined, and accepting. Very key elements of Mass Effect's story. We also embody hope, instead of despair like the rest of the fanbase. That is our main advantage if you ask me. And because we are the personification of those themes, we seem to naturally understand them much better than others, and that is why we recognize the full destruction of those themes in a literal ending.

Oh, and because I'm on top.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:24 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Back to the music thingy: there are also Reaper sounds in the music playing in the Geth Dreadnaught (also used in the mp lobby).

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rifneno seriously there's a difference between an assertive attitude and just being annoying and unreasonable. This isn't even something that just happenes every once in a while or with a particular person. It happens constantly and with multiple people. Why do you have all this hate dude?

A surprising amount of people think he's a jerk. While I agree he may seem like one based on the feeling of impatience people get from his writing, I think judging someone across the internet who you haven't even met face-to-face may be a little unfair. Especially since when he writes, it's just text, so people just make up in their head the tone in which he speaks in, or his body language. So these people probably imagine him typing stuff with furrowed brows, angrily pounding his fists on the keyboard, and then going outside and beating people up and stealing cars because they picture him as being such a jerk - when I'm actually quite a pleasant in person. While I think that's an unfair method of judging him, it's at least understandable.

How'd I do?

I agree with this in some situations. For instance, from an internet perspective, there are certain people that I just don't like. It has nothing to do with their personality, but how they post, and the vibes I get off of those posts. But, there's a difference between not conveying tone properly and just outright being a jerk. Think of Twilight God who would come on and put himself above everyone else. Then when someone would disprove his points, he would ignore it and say he defeated everyone with his superior debate skills and unbending confidence. There's no way you can make that sound better or likeable face to face.

Agreed, especially on that last point. So glad he's gone, at least for now.

[BansheeOwnage]

Home run MF wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Come on everyone, give me a hug!

 :gives Banshee a hug: 

[plfranke]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Rifneno seriously there's a difference between an assertive attitude and just being annoying and unreasonable. This isn't even something that just happenes every once in a while or with a particular person. It happens constantly and with multiple people. Why do you have all this hate dude?

A surprising amount of people think he's a jerk. While I agree he may seem like one based on the feeling of impatience people get from his writing, I think judging someone across the internet who you haven't even met face-to-face may be a little unfair. Especially since when he writes, it's just text, so people just make up in their head the tone in which he speaks in, or his body language. So these people probably imagine him typing stuff with furrowed brows, angrily pounding his fists on the keyboard, and then going outside and beating people up and stealing cars because they picture him as being such a jerk - when I'm actually quite a pleasant in person. While I think that's an unfair method of judging him, it's at least understandable.

How'd I do?

I agree with this in some situations. For instance, from an internet perspective, there are certain people that I just don't like. It has nothing to do with their personality, but how they post, and the vibes I get off of those posts. But, there's a difference between not conveying tone properly and just outright being a jerk. Think of Twilight God who would come on and put himself above everyone else. Then when someone would disprove his points, he would ignore it and say he defeated everyone with his superior debate skills and unbending confidence. There's no way you can make that sound better or likeable face to face.

Agreed, especially on that last point. So glad he's gone, at least for now.

It has been a while since the last really annoying person came in. The time of their return is coming. Their trolling will darken the skies of every post.

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Back to the music thingy: there are also Reaper sounds in the music playing in the Geth Dreadnaught (also used in the mp lobby).

Do you mean the normal MP music, or the Firebase White theme? Not many people know that each of the 6 default maps has its own menu music, which I used for ages to accurately predict which map we would play on if set to random. Of course since there are DLC maps, they use those tracks too, but it's still pretty reliable.

Anyway, if you did mean FB White music, did you mean the Inception horn?

[plfranke]

Hey guys, something interesting here. If you rewrite the Geth heretics (symbolizing control), it backfires and it gets more quarians killed. It also makes peace more difficult to achieve. This is contradictory to the Catalyst's notion that control would solve the organic synthetic dilemna. Destroying them on the other hand saves lives and is a point in your favor of achieving peace. This is one of the only decisions in the game that actually has a right or wrong choice. Another right or wrong choice? Saving the created Rachni queen, which could be considered trying to use Reaper technology against them. I actually just thought of the last part as I was posting so I'm not sure of its merits but I like adding things no matter how insignificant so others can build off it.

Edit: I may have worded that a bit confusingly. When I said merits, I meant merits of the idea not merits of the decision. That decsion does in fact backfire and is indeed the wrong choice to make.

Modifié par plfranke, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:35 .

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

It has been a while since the last really annoying person came in. The time of their return is coming. Their trolling will darken the skies of every post.

IT - IT IS NOT A THING, YOU CAN COMPREHEND.

Ever notice how each new one is worse than their predecessor to the point where you actually stop hating the old ones? It happened with SubAstris and some others.

[Rifneno]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Back to the music thingy: there are also Reaper sounds in the music playing in the Geth Dreadnaught (also used in the mp lobby).

Do you mean the normal MP music, or the Firebase White theme? Not many people know that each of the 6 default maps has its own menu music, which I used for ages to accurately predict which map we would play on if set to random. Of course since there are DLC maps, they use those tracks too, but it's still pretty reliable.

Anyway, if you did mean FB White music, did you mean the Inception horn?

The mission failed theme is very reminiscent of Saren's theme too.

[masster blaster]

TTG can be much to handle, but at least he believes in IT, even though it's not the way we see it, but never the less. He is an ITer, and remember we treat non ITers, and other ITers with some respect.

Okay everyone I have to go, good luck, and can't wait for Hellish'es and Turbos video.

[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Back to the music thingy: there are also Reaper sounds in the music playing in the Geth Dreadnaught (also used in the mp lobby).

Do you mean the normal MP music, or the Firebase White theme? Not many people know that each of the 6 default maps has its own menu music, which I used for ages to accurately predict which map we would play on if set to random. Of course since there are DLC maps, they use those tracks too, but it's still pretty reliable.

Anyway, if you did mean FB White music, did you mean the Inception horn?

No, as said the music which plays in the lobby.

Rifneno wrote...

The mission failed theme is very reminiscent of Saren's theme too.

Because it's Saren's theme...

[DoomsdayDevice]

Man, I missed a lot of gossip.

Can't wait to hear Hellish's outlandish ideas.

As for Rifneno, he absolutely cracks me up with his endless sarcasm, but I'm seriously glad I've managed to avoid incurring his wrath, so far. Honeybadgers will bite, that much is clear.


I don't like Twilight God's high horse either. But it's an easy pitfall if you start posting a lot outside of this thread, I've noticed.

I was seriously confused by plfranke's trolling. I just couldn't figure it out. I thought he had suddenly given up on IT or something. Glad to have that cleared up.

I like most people in this thread. This is a sensible place, for the most part.

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

Hey guys, something interesting here. If you rewrite the Geth heretics (symbolizing control), it backfires and it gets more quarians killed. It also makes peace more difficult to achieve. This is contradictory to the Catalyst's notion that control would solve the organic synthetic dilemna. Destroying them on the other hand saves lives and is a point in your favor of achieving peace. This is one of the only decisions in the game that actually has a right or wrong choice. Another right or wrong choice? Saving the created Rachni queen, which could be considered trying to use Reaper technology against them. I actually just thought of the last part as I was posting so I'm not sure of its merits but I like adding things no matter how insignificant so others can build off it.

Edit: I may have worded that a bit confusingly. When I said merits, I meant merits of the idea not merits of the decision. That decsion does in fact backfire and is indeed the wrong choice to make.

It works both ways. If you save them, you have more geth EMS. If you destroy them, you have more quarian EMS.

[BansheeOwnage]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No, as said the music which plays in the lobby.

You do realize that what I was talking about plays in the lobby right? The MP menu music will only play (quite unsurprisingly) in the main MP menu.

Rifneno wrote...

The mission failed theme is very reminiscent of Saren's theme too.

Because it's Saren's theme...

No, Saren's theme only plays in ME1. In ME2 and 3, it's this.

[spotlessvoid]

Too much

To sum it up

Plfranke is a good friend of mine and I vouch for him

Rifneno is a good friend of mine and I vouch for him

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:47 .

[plfranke]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Hey guys, something interesting here. If you rewrite the Geth heretics (symbolizing control), it backfires and it gets more quarians killed. It also makes peace more difficult to achieve. This is contradictory to the Catalyst's notion that control would solve the organic synthetic dilemna. Destroying them on the other hand saves lives and is a point in your favor of achieving peace. This is one of the only decisions in the game that actually has a right or wrong choice. Another right or wrong choice? Saving the created Rachni queen, which could be considered trying to use Reaper technology against them. I actually just thought of the last part as I was posting so I'm not sure of its merits but I like adding things no matter how insignificant so others can build off it.

Edit: I may have worded that a bit confusingly. When I said merits, I meant merits of the idea not merits of the decision. That decsion does in fact backfire and is indeed the wrong choice to make.

It works both ways. If you save them, you have more geth EMS. If you destroy them, you have more quarian EMS.

However, there is an important distinction. There is a point system involved in maintaining peace with the Geth and the Quarians. I believe you need 5 points or it might be 3. You get 1 point for not getting tali exiled. You get 1 point for destroying the heretics. You get 1 points for making sure you keep that admiral alive. By rewriting the heretics you actually make it more difficult to achieve peace, which is seemingly what the catalyst wants to achieve. Yet it's clear his methods do not lead to that.

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...
However, there is an important distinction. There is a point system involved in maintaining peace with the Geth and the Quarians. I believe you need 5 points or it might be 3. You get 1 point for not getting tali exiled. You get 1 point for destroying the heretics. You get 1 points for making sure you keep that admiral alive. By rewriting the heretics you actually make it more difficult to achieve peace, which is seemingly what the catalyst wants to achieve. Yet it's clear his methods do not lead to that.

It could be because of the admiral's states of mind. The more dead quarians you have, the less likely it is they will want peace. Geth don't operate like that; they don't hold grudges.

[BansheeOwnage]

This is Saren's theme. Synthesis 

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:48 .

[plfranke]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I'm friends with Rifneno and plfranke is my boy

Rif-I get it man, I do. I find your sarcasm often hilarious, but if you just shifted down one gear I think there would be less friction. No idea what's up between you and Mega so no comment, but I think your many contributions would be better received if you just toned it down a little. Not asking you not to be you, just saying lighten up some and realize some people are more sensitive to the tone something is said in. I know you are a good person

Plfranke-it is what it is bro. I defend you because I know you're a good guy, but some things you just have to let go. Know when there's no victory to be had and know when you're vastly outnumbered. Some battles aren't worth having. And remember that the whole thread isn't a few people. They turned on you because of loyalty to a friend, doesn't matter if they're right or wrong about that friend. It wasn't about you. It was about sticking up for someone they care about.

I know I have plenty of faults, just saying -love ya both so be easy my friends because I think you're both good people and valued members of the IT community

Yeah, I agree when Rifneno is in the zone of being sarcastic but not mean he's very entertaining. I think we would both benefit from like a buddy accountability system. We could keep eachother in check with regular ITers and save our aggression for a troll that comes. Then we could combine into Rifranke and destroy them.

[plfranke]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

plfranke wrote...
However, there is an important distinction. There is a point system involved in maintaining peace with the Geth and the Quarians. I believe you need 5 points or it might be 3. You get 1 point for not getting tali exiled. You get 1 point for destroying the heretics. You get 1 points for making sure you keep that admiral alive. By rewriting the heretics you actually make it more difficult to achieve peace, which is seemingly what the catalyst wants to achieve. Yet it's clear his methods do not lead to that.

It could be because of the admiral's states of mind. The more dead quarians you have, the less likely it is they will want peace. Geth don't operate like that; they don't hold grudges.

Banshee I don't know that you're getting my point. If you destroy the heretics, your dealings with them are over. It's a done deal and no more quarian lives are lost as a result of them. If you rewrite them, it doesn't work and they go on to kill again. Same thing with the Reapers. And to your argument of, geth lives are lost if you choose to destroy the heretics. It's a funny thing isn't it, whose lives are lost if you destroy the Reapers?

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

Yeah, I agree when Rifneno is in the zone of being sarcastic but not mean he's very entertaining. I think we would both benefit from like a buddy accountability system. We could keep eachother in check with regular ITers and save our aggression for a troll that comes. Then we could combine into Rifranke and destroy them.

Synthesis is the final evolution of...

[MegumiAzusa]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

No, as said the music which plays in the lobby.

You do realize that what I was talking about plays in the lobby right? The MP menu music will only play (quite unsurprisingly) in the main MP menu.

Rifneno wrote...

The mission failed theme is very reminiscent of Saren's theme too.

Because it's Saren's theme...

No, Saren's theme only plays in ME1. In ME2 and 3, it's this.

It's basically a remix, as it combines the Saren theme (mainly first part) and stuff from the Collector missions (the other half)

[Rifneno]

I was very surprised that the collector base decision didn't end up being a right or wrong one.

[401 Kill]

Rifneno wrote...

I was very surprised that the collector base decision didn't end up being a right or wrong one.

Maybe we'll explore the consequences of that choice during the Onega DLC (fabled to contain collectors).

Modifié par 401 Kill, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:59 .

[BansheeOwnage]

plfranke wrote...

Banshee I don't know that you're getting my point. If you destroy the heretics, your dealings with them are over. It's a done deal and no more quarian lives are lost as a result of them. If you rewrite them, it doesn't work and they go on to kill again. Same thing with the Reapers. And to your argument of, geth lives are lost if you choose to destroy the heretics. It's a funny thing isn't it, whose lives are lost if you destroy the Reapers?

Yeah, that is funny, and I do get it. I would just pick the geth over the quarians if I couldn't make peace. Which is interesting isn't it?

I mean, the literal ending totally invalidates all of your choices throughout every arc of ME3. If you save the geth over the quarians, that is invalidated in destroy. If you don't cure the genophage, that is invalidated in synthesis. That's just the tip of the iceberg though really. I just think it is such a middle finger in the literal ending to be all like:
"Lol congratulations on saving the geth, but they die 2 missions later in destroy lol."
Or "Rofl congrats on the peace you made between organics and synthetics without supersynthesismagic, but that entire theme and accomplishment is invalidated because you kill them later or render the whole thing useless by saying you can only have peace through synthesucks."

Why can't Shepard just mention the geth/quarian peace to the kid? AHHHHHhh!!!!!! [/rant]