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[EpyonX3]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also notice that Shepard is wearing his/her N7 standered armor from the FRIST dream he/she has. Also it been riped to Shredds meaning this is Shepard's willpower, and it's been growing weaker everytime he/she losses some one close to him/her, failing missions, and the dreams he/she has been having about the kid.

Uuhhh... That's because Shepard had no other armor in the first dream. You start out with your N7 armor, regardless, what happens.

In any other dream Shep is wearing casual clothes.

Not in mine. He's wearing his armor in every dream.

[MegumiAzusa]

masster blaster wrote...

Estebauns that's my point. Shepard is wearing the same armor from the first dream because it's symbollic. Think about it.The armor represents all of Shepard's willpower. Now when Shepard get's kocked out by Harbingers beam deepening on the armor you have on, it goes back to default armor. Yet this armor represents Shepard's willpower has been ripped apart, and can know be used against him/her.

And what does this mean for the other dreams? She is casually indoctrinated?
I wouldn't give too much that only Sheps standard armor has a destroyed model, creating one for each would have took quite some time, and space because for every combination they would have had to create a new render scene for the Shep alive scene, double that for male and female.

[masster blaster]

Also think about this Shepard wears the default N7 armor in the first dream, and NOW we are wearing it again after Harbingers beam hit* or semi hits Shepard. This could mean that Shepard is in a dream, but Shepard has the N7 armor in the breath scene to, so what could this mean. Could it be Bioware just wanting to use default armor at the end,lazy Bioware, or symbolic reasons.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Estebauns that's my point. Shepard is wearing the same armor from the first dream because it's symbollic. Think about it.The armor represents all of Shepard's willpower. Now when Shepard get's kocked out by Harbingers beam deepening on the armor you have on, it goes back to default armor. Yet this armor represents Shepard's willpower has been ripped apart, and can know be used against him/her.

???

What a huge leap of logic there.

Look, what you're saying simply isn't true. I have a  Shepard where she wore her armor from priority: London in the Mars mission. She was wearing that armor in the first dream.

[masster blaster]

masster blaster wrote...

Well I remember I founded out that Shepard does not get a direct hit by Harbingers beam. It was more like Shepard was flying back when the white light starts to cover the screen. Als o remember Anderson was with Shepard at the beginning of the game, and he was the one that called out Shepard's name to wake him up. My point is that what if the Reapers were about to start the Indoctrination attempt right there, but Anderson was in the way, and Shepard's willpower was to strong.

That is when the boy comes in after words, and that is when The Reapers order Cerberus to target Shepard's old friends, and the Reapers will help find and turn or kill Shepard's friends.

Mordin,Legion,and Thane weakend Shepard's moral, and if you didn't go recruit our old squade's then they die and that just weakens Shepard's will as a whole.

Thus we get to the run to the Conduit beam. Harbinger doesn't want to kill Shepard's friends/LI because that would be the breaking point for Shepard because we would have lost everything. Also notice Harbinger could have killed Shepard anytime, but Harbinger waited for the right moment to strike.

You see after Shepard says good bye to his LI, or friend, Harbinger is bosting in a sense because Shepard:wub:'s friends are the only ones that can wake him up, and Harbinger couldn't have that. Yet Harbinger realizes that Anderson could still be out there, and he can't have that.

So when Shepard goes into his/her dream/Indoctrination attempt, Shepard creates Anderson in his/her head because Shepard knows that Anderson is still out there, thus brings up the hallway looking like the Collector base because Shepard's other mind is telling him/her " Hey haven't we seen this place already?"

[Iconoclaste]

masster blaster wrote...

Also think about this Shepard wears the default N7 armor in the first dream, and NOW we are wearing it again after Harbingers beam hit* or semi hits Shepard. This could mean that Shepard is in a dream, but Shepard has the N7 armor in the breath scene to, so what could this mean. Could it be Bioware just wanting to use default armor at the end,lazy Bioware, or symbolic reasons.

Since in all 3 games Shepard "magically" changes weapons / armor in "cutscenes" or some dialogues, the players should reasonably assume by now that this is "standard Bioware procedure" for the whole series. It would be difficult to believe that, just for the purpose of one interpretation, Bioware "hinted" towards "something" with just "some of the magical armor / weapons changes" while the majority of these "changes" are absolutely meaningless throughout the rest of the 3 games.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:37 .

[masster blaster]

Also just like we said the gun is symbolic, don't you think the armor is symbolic at the end? Also Estebauns that coukd go withb the Carfinex, yet I didn't have it on me during the return to London beam charge at all, and still I got it.

My point being is that maybe it's a sign that Shepard could be dreaming, and his/her armor represents his/her tranished willpower.

[Whole Particle]

magnetite wrote...

It had something to do with convergence or in terms of the ending I guess Synthesis. Think that's the simplest answer I can think of. Not sure about an in-depth one. There was also an M-One console during the Overlord DLC for Mass Effect 2.

OK, haven't seen this one mentioned by anyone else, but I did a bit of thinking / searching around for fun on what 1M1 could possibly mean. Here's something I had discovered.

In Film Terminology, 1M1 apparently refers to the first piece of Music played in a movie. So if perhaps Bioware is trying to communicate with us the audience here, so maybe there's a hint that's being played somewhere? I figured I'd take a look and see if I could spot any potential clues, keywords, etc. throughout the time the first particular piece of music plays during the game.

(That's the first half ^, next half is mostly just speculation, don't know how much this next part will actually hold up.)

So right as the first track is ending in the beginning, is the scene where we see the kid flying around with his toy warship. Upon further inspection of the ship he's carrying, the code "R1Y288" appears on its side. At first I thought this might just be the Ship's Model number, but could it have deeper meaning, since it's the kid playing with it? Or were there other, actual live ships that had a similar designation?

If "R1Y288" is actually some sort of secret code, after doing a bit more searching, I interpreted it as one of two ways (or there maybe others, this is just what I came up with):
1) R1 could perhaps refer to Reaper 1, or Harbinger. But then I'd have no idea what Y288 refers to, maybe some sort of year?
2) After some more searching around, I did stumble across this wikipedia page, referring to genetics and mutations. Perhaps this means that "R1Y288" is Bioware's genetic formula for indoctrination? (Although I'm likely way off here, as I'm not entirely sure of the science behind it.)


Or maybe I'm just reaching too much and seeing patterns and such that aren't actually there.

Modifié par Whole Particle, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:43 .

[ElSuperGecko]

paxxton wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...
btw what's up with that light and the voices?
Also dat architecture

Cool. Are the voices there only in that area?

Damn! It's the ramp!!! Look how conveniently Shepard falls one floor down just to see it before escaping the disaster. Surely most players would miss that one in the heat of the moment.

I like this catch.  So how many coincidental similarities have we got during Priority Earth now then?

The rush to the Beam = Ilos rush to the Conduit
The room Shepard wakes up in = Collector Base
The engine chasm = the Shadow Broker's ship
The ramp = Geth Dreadnought
The control room = Illusive Man's room at Cerberus Base
1M1 markings = Citadel ascent during ME1
TIM confrontation = Saren confrontation
Dead bodies = Kaidan & Ashley's armour

At some point, it stops being a coincidence and becomes deliberate...

[MegumiAzusa]

Finally up. Again notice how Harby misses 3 times, but each shot is closer then the last? ^^

[masster blaster]

Icon in ME1 I never had any of my guns,armor change at all, and in ME2 I only had my gun change, not my armor. In ME3 my gun changed, but never my armor until the end of the game.

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Also just like we said the gun is symbolic, don't you think the armor is symbolic at the end? Also Estebauns that coukd go withb the Carfinex, yet I didn't have it on me during the return to London beam charge at all, and still I got it.

My point being is that maybe it's a sign that Shepard could be dreaming, and his/her armor represents his/her tranished willpower.

What are you talking about, "carnifex?" Isn't that just a simple gun in the game? The only real remarkable about is has got to be that "carnifex" means "executioner" in latin.

I didn't have the predator equipped when I shot Ashley, yet I still killed her with it. Is this somehow symbolic?

I don't see anything symbolic about the armor. When you're shot with a beam that has the yield of several nukes, then you can bet your armor won't look so good.

Modifié par estebanus, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:54 .

[plfranke]

Estebanus you need to chill when talking to massterblaster. He is perhaps the single greatest person on this thread and you will show him some respect.

[Iconoclaste]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Finally up. Again notice how Harby misses 3 times, but each shot is closer then the last? ^^

Not only does Harbinger "miss Shepard", he also completely misses the soldiers running ahead of him. While "adjusting shots" and missing in the process is easily understandable, why would Harby voluntarily miss other soldiers too?

[spotlessvoid]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Finally up. Again notice how Harby misses 3 times, but each shot is closer then the last? ^^

I like how it shows bits of concrete Citadel flying around after each impact

[masster blaster]

Right your the sister. Sorry Estebauns, but we talked about this a while back. There symbolic reasons for the Carfinex, and the Preditor gun. Paragon, and Renegade. In Destroy when you start to shot the tube, it goes from a Carfinex gun shot to a Preditor gun Shot. Also in Synthesis you through your gun away, as you do in Control. Yet in Destroy, and Refuse you keep your gun.

[estebanus]

plfranke wrote...

Estebanus you need to chill when talking to massterblaster. He is perhaps the single greatest person on this thread and you will show him some respect.

I suppose you would know all about showing people respect.

[MegumiAzusa]

estebanus wrote...

What the hell are you talking about, "carnifex?" Isn't that just a simple gun in the game? The only real remarkable about is has got to be that "carnifex" means "executioner" in latin.

I find it quite nice how Mordin gives it to you in ME2, then you can pull it out on him and either shoot him or not, in both cases Shep tosses it away.
Then later Anderson is shown with the Carnifex, when you wake up it magically lies next to you, and later TIM pulls a Predator out of Andersons... behind

estebanus wrote...

I don't see anything symbolic about the armor. When you're shot with a beam that has the yield of several nukes, then you can bet your armor won't look so good.

The problem here is that it looks quite weird, especially if you have a armor set equipped. Also it's coloring is very dark blue regardless of your selected colors.

[spotlessvoid]

Is this estebanus or his sister?

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Right your the sister. Sorry Estebauns, but we talked about this a while back. There symbolic reasons for the Carfinex, and the Preditor gun. Paragon, and Renegade. In Destroy when you start to shot the tube, it goes from a Carfinex gun shot to a Preditor gun Shot. Also in Synthesis you through your gun away, as you do in Control. Yet in Destroy, and Refuse you keep your gun.

Ah, I suppose that makes sense.
Look, I'm sorry how I snapped at you. I didn't mean anything by it.

[plfranke]

Yeah like I was wearing my reckoner knight armor so it looked especially wierd on my beam run hahahaha.

[masster blaster]

Also when I shot Ash Estebauns I had the Preditor equiped yet I used the Carfinex to kill her instead, as died Wrex, and Mordin. Also Saren used the Carfinex to kill Nilus, and if you notice Renegade Shepard uses the Carfinex most of the time in cut scenes, and Paragon Shepard uses the preditor. and its okay your brother and i do this on a regular bases.  or.

Modifié par masster blaster, 29 septembre 2012 - 05:02 .

[MegumiAzusa]

Iconoclaste wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Finally up. Again notice how Harby misses 3 times, but each shot is closer then the last? ^^

Not only does Harbinger "miss Shepard", he also completely misses the soldiers running ahead of him. While "adjusting shots" and missing in the process is easily understandable, why would Harby voluntarily miss other soldiers too?

Uhm any other shot is a direct hit...

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 septembre 2012 - 05:01 .

[estebanus]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

What the hell are you talking about, "carnifex?" Isn't that just a simple gun in the game? The only real remarkable about is has got to be that "carnifex" means "executioner" in latin.

I find it quite nice how Mordin gives it to you in ME2, then you can pull it out on him and either shoot him or not, in both cases Shep tosses it away.
Then later Anderson is shown with the Carnifex, when you wake up it magically lies next to you, and later TIM pulls a Predator out of Andersons... behind

estebanus wrote...

I don't see anything symbolic about the armor. When you're shot with a beam that has the yield of several nukes, then you can bet your armor won't look so good.

The problem here is that it looks quite weird, especially if you have a armor set equipped. Also it's coloring is very dark blue regardless of your selected colors.

Wow. I actually never payed any attention to that part with the carnifex. That's actually pretty awesome.

Although, with the armor... You know that the breath scene is pre-rendered, right? It would be pretty hard for BioWare to change it depending on what your color is.

I personally think that the reason the N7 armor is what you're wearing is, because BioWare is planning on doing a ME4 with Shepard in it. Each Mass Effect game has always started with Shepard wearing her N7 armor. It's kinda a running thing. So , Mass Effect 4 would then start with Shepard again wearing her N7 armor, only that this time, it's broken.

Modifié par estebanus, 29 septembre 2012 - 05:05 .

[Iconoclaste]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Finally up. Again notice how Harby misses 3 times, but each shot is closer then the last? ^^

Not only does Harbinger "miss Shepard", he also completely misses the soldiers running ahead of him. While "adjusting shots" and missing in the process is easily understandable, why would Harby voluntarily miss other soldiers too?

Uhm any other shot is a direct hit...

Maybe you need to look again at your own video?