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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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BansheeOwnage

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Restrider wrote...

Okay, here is a list of what Harbinger hits:

0:41 Mako
0:50 Soldier
0:53 Two Soldiers at once
0:56 Gunship
1:02 Misses Shepard
1:07 Misses Shepard
1:07 Soldier
1:12 Volvo Tank
1:14 Gunship
1:16 Soldier
1:21 Volvo Tank
2:53 Mako
3:07 Mako
3:16 Shepard

I was not able to analyze a few shots, since in this video the guy was desperately looking for Liara (I can understand that) and Garrus (aswell as this) and shooting at Harbinger for a brief period of time.
But I guess it is safe to say that Harbinger is good at shooting.

EDIT: ****! The links are gone :pinched:

Well, one thing I noticed is although Harbinger growls a lot in that scene, he seems to do it more after/while missing Shepard.

Top! Estebanus? Posted Image

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:30 .


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Iconoclaste I was very nice to you until your attack on Raven. I called you out for it. You've since, as is your way, have made things very personsal. Grow up. I'm done responding to you

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Davik Kang wrote...
...also so that the easter egg clip of Destroy Shepard 'waking up/gasping' matches what your wearing (otherwise they'd have to use in-game graphics rather than FMV at the end)

Yes, very convenient that they use a FMV at the end, which you can't flycam. Posted Image
Especially considering it is a much bigger file than an ingame cutscene...

#27029
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SwobyJ wrote...

Stop it. Everyone. WTF is with people on this thread?


I have no idea. It's been awhile since the last troll. I guess it was about time for one to show up. It's sorta wierd cause Icon generally is logical and more polite than he (or she I have no idea) is acting right now.

Frankly it's quite childish to insult someone, say they are leaving, then comes back and insults again. classic troll behavior.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

Okay, here is a list of what Harbinger hits:

0:41 Mako
0:50 Soldier
0:53 Two Soldiers at once
0:56 Gunship
1:02 Misses Shepard
1:07 Misses Shepard
1:07 Soldier
1:12 Volvo Tank
1:14 Gunship
1:16 Soldier
1:21 Volvo Tank
2:53 Mako
3:07 Mako
3:16 Shepard

I was not able to analyze a few shots, since in this video the guy was desperately looking for Liara (I can understand that) and Garrus (aswell as this) and shooting at Harbinger for a brief period of time.
But I guess it is safe to say that Harbinger is good at shooting.

EDIT: ****! The links are gone :pinched:

Well, one thing I noticed is although Harbinger growls a lot in that scene, he seems to do it more after/while missing Shepard.

Top! Estebanus? Posted Image

I guess Harby has a horny day... or something like that.
also:

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:40 .


#27031
BansheeOwnage

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@Restrider your signature is awesome!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yes, very convenient that they use a FMV at the end, which you can't flycam. Posted Image
Especially considering it is a much bigger file than an ingame cutscene...

Don't get the point sorry.  What is flycam?  I'm making a theme of not understanding people's responses.  I'll get there eventually!

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Davik Kang wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yes, very convenient that they use a FMV at the end, which you can't flycam. Posted Image
Especially considering it is a much bigger file than an ingame cutscene...

Don't get the point sorry.  What is flycam?  I'm making a theme of not understanding people's responses.  I'll get there eventually!


Flycam is a feature that computer users can utilize to get a view from anywhere in the game. It's called "flycam" cause it looks like the camera is flying.

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Davik Kang wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...
Yes, very convenient that they use a FMV at the end, which you can't flycam. Posted Image
Especially considering it is a much bigger file than an ingame cutscene...

Don't get the point sorry.  What is flycam?  I'm making a theme of not understanding people's responses.  I'll get there eventually!

flycam is so the camera isn't bound to the actor and can fly freely. Also you can pause time.

lol YT: We detected that your video may be shaky. Would you like us to fix that?

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:40 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Well, one thing I noticed is although Harbinger growls a lot in that scene, he seems to do it more after/while missing Shepard.

Top! Estebanus? Posted Image

I guess Harby has a horny day... or something like that.
also when it's done processing (~5 mins or something):

That makes sense, actally. Harby always wanted Shepard's body, and this is where we think Shepard is gonna be uhh... dominated.

#27036
BansheeOwnage

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@TJ/Megumi right. My point is if we could use flycam there, we could determine if Shepard is really on Earth (and confirm IT) or on the citadel (and deny IT). But we can't.

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MegumiAzusa

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Well, one thing I noticed is although Harbinger growls a lot in that scene, he seems to do it more after/while missing Shepard.

Top! Estebanus? Posted Image

I guess Harby has a horny day... or something like that.
also:

That makes sense, actally. Harby always wanted Shepard's body, and this is where we think Shepard is gonna be uhh... dominated.

Ah, yes. "Dominated".

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:45 .


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TJBartlemus

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 Geez. IT is false. This thread has totally changed my mind on IT. IT is all a conspiracy theory. This disproves IT...[saracasm] Seriously...there is not enough facepalms....

http://social.biowar.../index/14293006

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Modifié par TJBartlemus, 29 septembre 2012 - 06:46 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

Iconoclaste I was very nice to you until your attack on Raven. I called you out for it. You've since, as is your way, have made things very personsal. Grow up. I'm done responding to you

You're projecting your own schemes and feelings on others, dude. That's your problem, not mine! I can get in here and have a good time, and in other circumstances I will not, but I will not infer that others think and feel the way I do. How could I? It's only "text" on a forum, how do you make up everything else?

Here, I will write this, just to see "word magic" in effect :

You are a good person, but you lack the confidence to find peaceful arguments in discussions where you are emotionally involved. Do you find this insulting? Because I don't really care, you know. In a discussion, someone always resorting to his "hurt feelings" in order to call out opposing arguments is using manipulation. This is unfair and immature, but I never vowed to be a saint either! Nevertheless, be assured that I will not hesitate to answer you in any way you please to use yourself.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

@Restrider your signature is awesome!


"This leads us to a total energy of E = 78 945 MT = 4 934 063 Hiroshima Bombs."

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Well, one thing I noticed is although Harbinger growls a lot in that scene, he seems to do it more after/while missing Shepard.

Top! Estebanus? Posted Image

I guess Harby has a horny day... or something like that.
also:

That makes sense, actally. Harby always wanted Shepard's body, and this is where we think Shepard is gonna be uhh... dominated.

Ah, yes. "Dominated".

Funny you say that actually. Click the link again, Vendetta does the airquotes for a sec.
And thanks for the upload. It clearly demonstrates  Harbinger's superior accuracy and his Thanix beam's ability to fully disintegrate people.

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its kinda funny when some people IT isn't what Bioware planned, even though Bioware did

#27043
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@Iconoclaste didin't you have to go somewhere? Because Spotless is right. If you say you have to go, but don't, and continue to insult people, you're a troll. No way around that. Please, don't be a troll; leave us in peace.

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AresKeith wrote...

its kinda funny when some people IT isn't what Bioware planned, even though Bioware did

Agreed. It's one of the only certainties we have.

Gonna go continue my playthrough. See you all later.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 29 septembre 2012 - 07:00 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

 Geez. IT is false. This thread has totally changed my mind on IT. IT is all a conspiracy theory. This disproves IT...[saracasm] Seriously...there is not enough facepalms....

http://social.biowar.../index/14293006

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this guys right!


:blink:

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Flycam is a feature that computer users can utilize to get a view from anywhere in the game. It's called "flycam" cause it looks like the camera is flying.

BansheeOwnage wrote...

@TJ/Megumi right. My point is if we could use flycam there, we could determine if Shepard is really on Earth (and confirm IT) or on the citadel (and deny IT). But we can't.


Ah ok thanks.  Although, I still think that the ending involves an indoctrination attempt, but that waking up on the Citadel wouldn't contradict that.

#27047
TJBartlemus

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*takes deep breath of air* Wall of Texts...have no idea how Arian does it so easily.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Well, one thing I noticed is although Harbinger growls a lot in that scene, he seems to do it more after/while missing Shepard.

Top! Estebanus? Posted Image

I guess Harby has a horny day... or something like that.
also:

That makes sense, actally. Harby always wanted Shepard's body, and this is where we think Shepard is gonna be uhh... dominated.

Ah, yes. "Dominated".

Funny you say that actually. Click the link again, Vendetta does the airquotes for a sec.
And thanks for the upload. It clearly demonstrates  Harbinger's superior accuracy and his Thanix beam's ability to fully disintegrate people.

Ah also again:
http://thundermods.n.../Lilith/mdb.jpg
:P

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AresKeith wrote...

its kinda funny when some people IT isn't what Bioware planned, even though Bioware did


They had a plan to include a scene where Shepard would fall under Reaper control.

This does not in any way mean the IT was ever Bioware's intention. Whatever they had planned may have looked nothing like the IT.

None of us have any way of knowing what they were planning, but I think it's much more likely that original plan turned into what we saw with TIM -- Shep temporarily falling under someone else's control, but not becoming indoctrinated.

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jla0644 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

its kinda funny when some people IT isn't what Bioware planned, even though Bioware did


They had a plan to include a scene where Shepard would fall under Reaper control.

This does not in any way mean the IT was ever Bioware's intention. Whatever they had planned may have looked nothing like the IT.

None of us have any way of knowing what they were planning, but I think it's much more likely that original plan turned into what we saw with TIM -- Shep temporarily falling under someone else's control, but not becoming indoctrinated.


They intended Shepard to become indoctrinated; that's all we need.