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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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plfranke wrote...

I've never been a fan of the "Shepard is indoctrinating people" theory. It sounds too much like the thread on here that says that all human beings are really controlled. It's a terrible read. There's just too large a gap between being persuaded to make a decision through logic and faith and being forced to make a decision by someone else.

Push the "logic and faith" to the boundaries of their respective terminology, and it's not different from "indoctrination". Then, could "indoctrination" be good sometimes?

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masster blaster wrote...

Also So Uranium your comparing me to Sarge. I like it. He is my favorit characters other than Caboose, and Grif. Also well said.

I'm Washington just to you know. Posted Image Not sure who everyone else is. Speculation for everyone.

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Iconoclaste wrote...

plfranke wrote...

I've never been a fan of the "Shepard is indoctrinating people" theory. It sounds too much like the thread on here that says that all human beings are really controlled. It's a terrible read. There's just too large a gap between being persuaded to make a decision through logic and faith and being forced to make a decision by someone else.

Push the "logic and faith" to the boundaries of their respective terminology, and it's not different from "indoctrination". Then, could "indoctrination" be good sometimes?

Not sure what you mean, but in the sense of leadership being indoctrination, I think that indoctrination may be able to be neutral. People should be given all of the facts and evidence, and can make their own decisions and interpretations based on them. Posted Image

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Iconoclaste wrote...

plfranke wrote...

I've never been a fan of the "Shepard is indoctrinating people" theory. It sounds too much like the thread on here that says that all human beings are really controlled. It's a terrible read. There's just too large a gap between being persuaded to make a decision through logic and faith and being forced to make a decision by someone else.

Push the "logic and faith" to the boundaries of their respective terminology, and it's not different from "indoctrination". Then, could "indoctrination" be good sometimes?

Yeah it really is different.

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I'm a software developed by the Pentagon to interfere realistically with human activity on the internet.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

plfranke wrote...

I've never been a fan of the "Shepard is indoctrinating people" theory. It sounds too much like the thread on here that says that all human beings are really controlled. It's a terrible read. There's just too large a gap between being persuaded to make a decision through logic and faith and being forced to make a decision by someone else.

Push the "logic and faith" to the boundaries of their respective terminology, and it's not different from "indoctrination". Then, could "indoctrination" be good sometimes?

I think that indoctrination may be able to be neutral. People should be given all of the facts and evidence, and can make their own decisions and interpretations based on them. Posted Image

Then that's not indoctrination. Indoctrination doesn't allow you to make your own decisions, because you're decisions are being influenced. That's the defining feature of indoctrination.

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@Washington

I'm a software developed by the Pentagon to interfere realistically with human activity on the internet.


No wonder. You're so glitchy...

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also So Uranium your comparing me to Sarge. I like it. He is my favorit characters other than Caboose, and Grif. Also well said.

I'm Washington just to you know. Posted Image Not sure who everyone else is. Speculation for everyone.


I'm an amalgamation of Grif and Tucker.

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Iconoclaste wrote...

I'm a software developed by the Pentagon to interfere realistically with human activity on the internet.

Greetings! Well, you can report back to them and explain how poor of a job you did. You type too neatly, you need to insult people and ignore good points more to increase realism.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 30 septembre 2012 - 03:53 .


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plfranke wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

plfranke wrote...

I've never been a fan of the "Shepard is indoctrinating people" theory. It sounds too much like the thread on here that says that all human beings are really controlled. It's a terrible read. There's just too large a gap between being persuaded to make a decision through logic and faith and being forced to make a decision by someone else.

Push the "logic and faith" to the boundaries of their respective terminology, and it's not different from "indoctrination". Then, could "indoctrination" be good sometimes?

I think that indoctrination may be able to be neutral. People should be given all of the facts and evidence, and can make their own decisions and interpretations based on them. Posted Image

Then that's not indoctrination. Indoctrination doesn't allow you to make your own decisions, because you're decisions are being influenced. That's the defining feature of indoctrination.

I edited it it a bit. I mean indoctrination as leadership can be neutral, but that's not what I meant after that. You're right.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

You type to neatly, you need to insult people and ignore good points more to increase realism.


I am extremely disappoint, Banshee.

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also So Uranium your comparing me to Sarge. I like it. He is my favorit characters other than Caboose, and Grif. Also well said.

I'm Washington just to you know. Posted Image Not sure who everyone else is. Speculation for everyone.


I'm an amalgamation of Grif and Tucker.

BYNE! Posted Image Where have you been? (I know).
Read Blur's post on the last page. I think you can guess which one.  Posted Image

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demersel wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

@Washington

I'm a software developed by the Pentagon to interfere realistically with human activity on the internet.


No wonder. You're so glitchy...

Sorry, I only modeled politics up to now, so I hardly make a difference between "indoctrinating" and "patronizing". ;)

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

You type to neatly, you need to insult people and ignore good points more to increase realism.


I am extremely disappoint, Banshee.

Right. I never contacted this "neatly".

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

You type to neatly, you need to insult people and ignore good points more to increase realism.


I am extremely disappoint, Banshee.

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I knew something was off...
I don't screw up that much do I? At least you're always there to catch me! Posted Image

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plfranke wrote...

I've never been a fan of the "Shepard is indoctrinating people" theory. It sounds too much like the thread on here that says that all human beings are really controlled. It's a terrible read. There's just too large a gap between being persuaded to make a decision through logic and faith and being forced to make a decision by someone else.

Agreed. Shepard is a leader because of actions and words. Not some hidden force

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Read Blur's post on the last page. I think you can guess which one.  Posted Image


That post reminds me that this song always kind of reminded me of IT.

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Where have you been? (I know).


I got my main to 89 and got bored so I've been working on my monk.

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Byne don't be to hard on Banshee, my poor grammar got to him, and now it's your turn. Jk It's good to see you old friend. Also you missed what happened in the last 5 hours. We went to the Control thread, and gave them something to speculate about, and another thread, not Kellys thread . It was awsome, and believe it or not I am on a role to day.

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masster blaster wrote...

Byne don't be to hard on Banshee


You made the exact same mistake he did.

*eye twitch*

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byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Where have you been? (I know).


I got my main to 89 and got bored so I've been working on my monk.

Remind me why you need to do this for all of them? Though I admire your dedication. How many ME1/2 playthroughs do you have? (On a more depressing note, how many ME3 playthroughs do you have?Posted Image)

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Byne don't be to hard on Banshee


You made the exact same mistake he did.

*eye twitch*

MB is right. It was great actually. We superowned some people (one specifically) on a couple of other threads, including the control support thread. We were working as a team, and it was magnificent! Posted Image

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Where have you been? (I know).


I got my main to 89 and got bored so I've been working on my monk.

Remind me why you need to do this for all of them? Though I admire your dedication. How many ME1/2 playthroughs do you have? (On a more depressing note, how many ME3 playthroughs do you have?Posted Image)


I need to do it for all of them because then they.... will be max level? Its like the flag in RvB. Its important even if you dont know why.

Also: 30 ME1, 30 ME2, and like 12 ME3 playthroughs.

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Oh, that is just brilliant! Hillarious. 
take a look! social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/14297710

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byne wrote...

I need to do it for all of them because then they.... will be max level? Its like the flag in RvB. Its important even if you dont know why.

Also: 30 ME1, 30 ME2, and like 12 ME3 playthroughs.

Mother of god, impressive or scary. Or both. :lol:

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 30 septembre 2012 - 04:10 .