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[DoomsdayDevice]

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's a cool bit of Fridge Brilliance that in ME2 you're working with the indoctrinated splinter group that wants to control the Reapers... to defeat the previous cycle's same group

And that the Collector General is the Prothean Illusive Man

How didn't I think of this before?

[BansheeOwnage]

401 Kill wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I would say you're right. We came to the conclusion a while ago that during the entirety of ME3 you fight only the reapers. Even more evidence both of their cunning deceptions, but also why we need to destroy them. Hijacking people's minds? Unacceptable!

So true. Every single enemy you face is influenced (controlled?) by the reapers. The geth allied reapers with them, the little kid says he controlled TIM. And you just fight plain old reaper forces. You've destroyed Cerberus, you've destroyed the reaper influence over the geth(pattern here...), then you must destroy the reapers themselves.

Very well said. (Read it in Hackett's voice. For that matter, read everything about destroying the reapers in Hackett's voice!)

Dead reapers are how we win this!
No more reapers!
There were more but I forgot :/

[Rifneno]

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's a cool bit of Fridge Brilliance that in ME2 you're working with the indoctrinated splinter group that wants to control the Reapers... to defeat the previous cycle's same group

And that the Collector General is the Prothean Illusive Man

Why do you think the Collectors were that group?  The Reapers had lots of indoctrinated Protheans.

[D.Sharrah]

Home run MF wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Ahhh...but that's the catch.  The female are dying even though they have the former lead scientist of both the genophage and the genophage retrofit working on the problem (Mordin)?  And in most of my games Mordin is armed with Maelon's data...but he can only keep Eve alive before Shep et al get there?  I think that Linron was using her connections w/in the STG to slowly "let the Krogan female die" (read kill here basically).  Also it is a little convenient that Mordin slips the Krogan the information before the last female dies.  Her plan was going perfectly until Shep shows up with the intent of taking the last female off planet - where she would be safe.  So she has to act rashly...and contacts Cerberus.

We are given some in game hints that the Salarians know that a cure is possible - we are even outright told that they expected a cure to be found and that the only effiecient way to implement it would be through the shroud, which they sabotage.  We know that the current person in the position of power (Linron) believes that uplifting the Krogan was a mistake - a mistake that she believes that they will do again to fight the Reapers.  And that she tries to blatantly blackmail Shep into letting that aforementioned sabotage occur (even if it means killing Mordin).


I am telling you that Linron fits as the mole...and it provides a perfectly legitmate reason as to why the mole is never brought up again.  They were not concerned with stopping the overall war effort - just stopping the cure to the genophage.

The females were dying bacause of Maelon's experiments, Bakara tells you this, I don't see how Mordin could heal someone if they are that injured. Also if you are suggesting Mordin is involved with the plot why would he sacrifice himself latter?
And that still does not explain the outbound transmission from the base.
Just call Cerberus to attack a super secret research facility let them kill everyone and destroy everything just to make sure a krogan female dies when I can just slip something untraceable in her medication?
Sorry but I don't see it. 

Not suggesting that at all...on the other hand I do find it fishy that by the time Shep get's involved ther is only one female left alive, despite Mordin's involvement.  Me thinks that there is more going on there then we currently know...and the Dalatross and her connections within the STG couldn't outright assassinate the female Krogans for two reasons:

1.  There already is political instability (as mentioned by someone else), and this might be the straw that breaks the camels back - and causes civil war.  Which given the current galactic climate would be disastrous.

2.  Forget the battles that this may cause on the homefront...if the Krogan's source should leak that the Salarians not only found females but then assassinated them - and this prevented any chance of a cure.  Not only would the Salarians be at risk of war with the Krogan, but they would most likely lose any council support as well.

Given the above, plus the statements of the Dalatross about repeating the "Krogan mistake", and the research into uplifting the Yahg...my guess would be that had everything gone to the Dalatross's plan, all the females would have died despite their tremendous effort to save their lives - but to make up for the potential loss of the Krogan, here is the new version, the Yahg.

[BansheeOwnage]

Let's play a game! Everyone list something a character says about victory through sacrifice, how destroy is the only choice, or how the other choices suck! I'll start.

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard
Especially important because geth.

[BansheeOwnage]

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's a cool bit of Fridge Brilliance that in ME2 you're working with the indoctrinated splinter group that wants to control the Reapers... to defeat the previous cycle's same group

And that the Collector General is the Prothean Illusive Man

Why do you think the Collectors were that group?  The Reapers had lots of indoctrinated Protheans.

Because it makes sense for the reapers to continue to use their indoctrinated agents post war, just like they did with the collectors. They're already synthesis and control. If they won in this cycle, they would probably use Cerberus to make the human reaper or anything else they needed.

@Dave do you not have an "a" button on your keyboard? Sorry, but it's dalatrass not dalatross.

[D.Sharrah]

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's a cool bit of Fridge Brilliance that in ME2 you're working with the indoctrinated splinter group that wants to control the Reapers... to defeat the previous cycle's same group

And that the Collector General is the Prothean Illusive Man

I remember back in the good old days I had a theory that the collectors were doing all the genetic research on the galaxy not for the Reaper's, but for themselves.  They had just enough of themselves left that they were trying to find a way to reverse all that the Reaper's had done to them...and the Reaper's fearing that the "created will always rebel against the created" devised a plan to eliminate their tools, while gaining their replacements in Cerberus...

Then I remembered Mordin's "replaced by tech" speech and came back to my senses...

[BansheeOwnage]

Eryri wrote...
Agreed. As frustrating as the "ITers are all zealots" taunts can be, there's nothing to be gained in looking for trouble. 

I don't think we need to worry that the anti-IT crowd will scare Bioware away from following their original plans (assuming IT was their original plan). 

Let's face it, this is the third incarnation of the IT thread and its over eleven hundred pages! I think it's clear to Bioware and everyone else what the most passionately supported theory is.

That's true. If they didn't intend it, anti-ITers will obviously not change Bioware's plans. Likewise, if they did intend IT, anti-ITers will not change BW's plans. But since this is almost the only theory still standing, and they have encouraged us to keep going, I'm hopeful.

[D.Sharrah]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

It's a cool bit of Fridge Brilliance that in ME2 you're working with the indoctrinated splinter group that wants to control the Reapers... to defeat the previous cycle's same group

And that the Collector General is the Prothean Illusive Man

Why do you think the Collectors were that group?  The Reapers had lots of indoctrinated Protheans.

Because it makes sense for the reapers to continue to use their indoctrinated agents post war, just like they did with the collectors. They're already synthesis and control. If they won in this cycle, they would probably use Cerberus to make the human reaper or anything else they needed.

@Dave do you not have an "a" button on your keyboard? Sorry, but it's dalatrass not dalatross.

Don't know what I was thinking...the "a" does fit better doesn't it.

[401 Kill]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Let's play a game! Everyone list something a character says about victory through sacrifice, how destroy is the only choice, or how the other choices suck! I'll start.

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard
Especially important because geth.

Grunt-"Anybody somethin' to eat?"                                                                     I'm joking... Garrus-(rough paraphrase) "Sacrifice 1 trillion here so 2 trillion there can live."

Modifié par 401 Kill, 02 octobre 2012 - 02:00 .

[Rifneno]

So.. I wonder if this patch will fix any bugs.

[D.Sharrah]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard

He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this. -Hackett

[401 Kill]

Here you go...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Attention! Patch notes are up actually. And according to Gamble, this foxes certain SP things as well. Hopefully Leviathan's end music...

[Rifneno]

401 Kill wrote...

Here you go...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Attention! Patch notes are up actually. And according to Gamble, this foxes certain SP things as well. Hopefully Leviathan's end music...

Lulz.  No, I mean if it will actually fix the bugs.  The last patch said it fixed all kinds of bugs.  It didn't fix ****.

[AresKeith]

I was just looking through the art book again, besides the Ashley concept drawings looking better than in-game Ashley lol

it looked like Bioware wanted to add more to the Earth mission

[401 Kill]

Rifneno wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Here you go...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Attention! Patch notes are up actually. And according to Gamble, this foxes certain SP things as well. Hopefully Leviathan's end music...

Lulz.  No, I mean if it will actually fix the bugs.  The last patch said it fixed all kinds of bugs.  It didn't fix ****.

Remember... If it doesn't actually fix the bugs like Bioware has said, then that is another statement that is just not true. (I'm assuming they had a previous patch that didn't do as advertised).

[OneWithTheAssassins]

TJBartlemus wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

Been powerleveling/gearing to 90 in World of Warcraft *ashamed* since we want to get some realm first kills. So did i miss anything huge the last couple of days?

The outside world? 
Social occasions?
The big patch bioware's putting out thursday to "prepare for future...stuff"?

Mmh, you trolling me TSA? If so, laugh at me for saying... what patch?

https://twitter.com/...853374960168960

Ahhh!!! I was right that they were going to put in DLC that set up other DLC. +100 10 points to TJ!!!

*Drums finger tips together squinting eyes with a knowing smerk*
All according to plan...

[masster blaster]

" We will fight. We will sacrifce. But we will find another way."

Modifié par masster blaster, 02 octobre 2012 - 02:26 .

[BansheeOwnage]

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard

He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this. -Hackett

masster blaster wrote...

" We will fight. We will sacrifce. But we will another way."

There will be no further compromise with the Old Machines. - Geth Prime

[Rifneno]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard

He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this. -Hackett

masster blaster wrote...

" We will fight. We will sacrifce. But we will another way."

There will be no further compromise with the Old Machines. - Geth Prime

Shepard: So... maybe you don't care if you live or die.
Vega: Or maybe... I'm just willing to do whatever the <precision f-bomb!> it takes to end this goddamn war!

[BansheeOwnage]

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard

He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this. -Hackett

masster blaster wrote...

" We will fight. We will sacrifce. But we will another way."

There will be no further compromise with the Old Machines. - Geth Prime

Shepard: So... maybe you don't care if you live or die.
Vega: Or maybe... I'm just willing to do whatever the <precision f-bomb!> it takes to end this goddamn war!

Shepard: If you you'd saved them all would things have worked out better?
Vega: I... I don't know. I don't think so.
Shepard: The right choice is usually not the easy one.

[BansheeOwnage]

Probably a good thing overall, but I find it funny how you can't quote some of the things people say in the forums about those games because of harsh language...

[DoomsdayDevice]

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard

He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this. -Hackett

masster blaster wrote...

" We will fight. We will sacrifce. But we will another way."

There will be no further compromise with the Old Machines. - Geth Prime

Shepard: So... maybe you don't care if you live or die.
Vega: Or maybe... I'm just willing to do whatever the <precision f-bomb!> it takes to end this goddamn war!

Samara: "Treat them as any other enemy - show no quarter, mercy or weakness."

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 02 octobre 2012 - 02:44 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Byne, if you're here, show yourself! I just watched RvB!

[BansheeOwnage]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Each of you needs to be willing to die. Anything less...and you're already dead. - Shepard

He's wrong. Dead Reapers is how we win this. -Hackett

masster blaster wrote...

" We will fight. We will sacrifce. But we will another way."

There will be no further compromise with the Old Machines. - Geth Prime

Shepard: So... maybe you don't care if you live or die.
Vega: Or maybe... I'm just willing to do whatever the <precision f-bomb!> it takes to end this goddamn war!

Samara: "Treat them as any other enemy - show no quarter, mercy or weakness."

You have not really defeated the enemy if you adopt their methods. - Samara