estebanus wrote...
But you said everyone! Does that mean that I'm not important?masster blaster wrote...
CoolioThane wrote...
I've been here the whole time Masster. I'm offended
Yes but I ment the the ones that are not here right now.
dreamgazer wrote...
Wonder what's going on here ...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Javik never said that they trained them to be reaper killers. He says that he believed them to be the best hope for this cycle, and I'm sure he was lying, since he more or less told Shepard afterwards that he did it to make Liara feel better.EpyonX3 wrote...
Catalyst says, "Just as we left your people alone the last time we were here." That's the best Evidence we've got that the reapers visited our planet and took out who ever was above us.
Also, I'm not saying the cave drawings are human and on earth. I think they are Asari, depicting the war they witnessed with the reapers and protheans. They may have even contributed. Again, Javik mentions actively training Asari to be the future's reaper killers.
Modifié par estebanus, 02 août 2012 - 09:56 .
Or like in guild wars, where humans actually were aliens from outer space that crashed into Tyria thousands of years ago!byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Oh god, lets hope it doesnt turn out like the Halo lore, where, from what I understand, not only were humans a spacefaring species 100,000 years ago, they were about as advanced as the mythical Forerunners, and were even at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners beat them in the war and destroyed all their tech and records, so we became cavemen or something.
It'd be like discovering primitive humans were advanced enough to put up a decent fight against the Reapers and almost beat them.
wait..didn't Guilty Spark say that humans "are Forerunner?"byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Oh god, lets hope it doesnt turn out like the Halo lore, where, from what I understand, not only were humans a spacefaring species 100,000 years ago, they were about as advanced as the mythical Forerunners, and were even at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners beat them in the war and destroyed all their tech and records, so we became cavemen or something.
It'd be like discovering primitive humans were advanced enough to put up a decent fight against the Reapers and almost beat them.
Arashi08 wrote...
wait..didn't Guilty Spark say that humans "are Forerunner?"byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Oh god, lets hope it doesnt turn out like the Halo lore, where, from what I understand, not only were humans a spacefaring species 100,000 years ago, they were about as advanced as the mythical Forerunners, and were even at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners beat them in the war and destroyed all their tech and records, so we became cavemen or something.
It'd be like discovering primitive humans were advanced enough to put up a decent fight against the Reapers and almost beat them.
Modifié par AxStapleton, 02 août 2012 - 09:58 .
BansheeOwnage wrote...
I'm saying our common enemy doesn't have to be an entity. Let me explain how unity works.estebanus wrote...
BansheeOwnage wrote...
That's the problem. We need a common enemy. In this thread, we don't need trolls to fight to make us work together. We're simply doing it to realize a common goal. Our "common enemy" is anti-truth. We simply seek the truth. This thread is my vision of what humanity could/should be. No judging, everyone working together and using logic to do it.estebanus wrote...
Conflict is an integral part of human nature. Without conflict, ther is no progress.BansheeOwnage wrote...
That's funny. I hate people. I hate humanity. I love individuals though. The problem is we (humanity) isn't working together. We need a Shepard. Kind of like how Byne brought all of us together. Now we would in unison seeking a common goal.Arian Dynas wrote...
It does me.
I love people. I love humanity. Or I wish I could love individuals.
That may be, yet there is no such thing as a "tmeless enemy." Friend and foe changes constantly over the flow of time. Today's enemy may be tomorrow's best friend.
Look at the cold war. No other war has truly brought the west so close together. But all that ended after the soviet union was defeated. The tight relationship between the US and Europe ended, and opinions on each other soon changed afterwards.
2 people from London (one Anderson obviously) meet 2 people from York. The Londoners, who have virtually nothing in common save being Londoners, now unite and say to the Yorkers that they're both from London. Then all 4 people are met by somone from Edinburgh. All of a sudden, the 4 original people are now all from England. When confronted by someone from say, France, the 5 of them are now all from the U.K. So an American appears, and the 6 previous people are now all European. Now go even further. We are then visited by some Turians. Like out of nowhere, the seven Earthlings are now just that: Earthlings. Humanity then proceeds to create colonies on new worlds. When faced with a Geth invasion, they're all humans. When Reapers invade the galaxy, we're all people from the Milky Way.
So basically, all anyone needs to unite is a common enemy. I just think it doesn't have to be an entity. It can be anti-truth.
*sigh* I really wish SOME lore out there would just stick with its continuity...AxStapleton wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
wait..didn't Guilty Spark say that humans "are Forerunner?"byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Oh god, lets hope it doesnt turn out like the Halo lore, where, from what I understand, not only were humans a spacefaring species 100,000 years ago, they were about as advanced as the mythical Forerunners, and were even at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners beat them in the war and destroyed all their tech and records, so we became cavemen or something.
It'd be like discovering primitive humans were advanced enough to put up a decent fight against the Reapers and almost beat them.
Not according to Halo 4 apparently.
LT123 wrote...
Anybody have a link to the thread where Chris Priestly said the IT was a valid possibility for the end of the game?
Chris Priestly wrote...
No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.
twitter.com/PatrickWeekes/status/231123764644028416
"Really excited that news about our DLC has finally come out. We can't wait for you to see it."
Modifié par dreamgazer, 02 août 2012 - 10:03 .
Arashi08 wrote...
*sigh* I really wish SOME lore out there would just stick with its continuity...AxStapleton wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
wait..didn't Guilty Spark say that humans "are Forerunner?"byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Oh god, lets hope it doesnt turn out like the Halo lore, where, from what I understand, not only were humans a spacefaring species 100,000 years ago, they were about as advanced as the mythical Forerunners, and were even at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners beat them in the war and destroyed all their tech and records, so we became cavemen or something.
It'd be like discovering primitive humans were advanced enough to put up a decent fight against the Reapers and almost beat them.
Not according to Halo 4 apparently.
Edit: ...jgibson14352 wrote...
im pretty sure, at least this is what i got from it, that prothean researchers were studying humanity and put some kind of observation chip in a random human. few years/seasons later, during the prothean cycle, a single reaper comes to finish off the implanted human to make sure it didnt leave any clues for the rest of humanity. just making sure to cover its tracks.Brazukka wrote...
The scene just says this: "estebanus wrote...
But that was a prothean sphere that kidnapped that lifeform, wasn't it?
ou hear it before you see it, its call a deafening roar as it descends from above, swooping down on you. A single great eye opens on the underbelly, a glowing red orb. You try to run, but a finger of red light extends from the eye and engulfs you, and all goes black again. "
It doesn't say if it's prothean or reaper.
Modifié par Brazukka, 02 août 2012 - 10:08 .
estebanus wrote...
Javik never said that they trained them to be reaper killers. He says that he believed them to be the best hope for this cycle, and I'm sure he was lying, since he more or less told Shepard afterwards that he did it to make Liara feel better.EpyonX3 wrote...
Catalyst says, "Just as we left your people alone the last time we were here." That's the best Evidence we've got that the reapers visited our planet and took out who ever was above us.
Also, I'm not saying the cave drawings are human and on earth. I think they are Asari, depicting the war they witnessed with the reapers and protheans. They may have even contributed. Again, Javik mentions actively training Asari to be the future's reaper killers.
Also, humanoid life can't suddenly grow on the same planet where other humanoid life may already live.
dreamgazer wrote...
LT123 wrote...
Anybody have a link to the thread where Chris Priestly said the IT was a valid possibility for the end of the game?
http://social.biowar...1822/9#13246618Chris Priestly wrote...
No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.
Chris Priestly wrote...
No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.
Anyone who does not like the IT or thinks it not to be correct is STRONGLY enouraged to stay away from discussion on it.
dreamgazer wrote...
LT123 wrote...
Anybody have a link to the thread where Chris Priestly said the IT was a valid possibility for the end of the game?
http://social.biowar...1822/9#13246618Chris Priestly wrote...
No. The IT thread remains here as it is a valid possibility for the end of the game.
![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
masster blaster wrote...
Shepard is the last blood line, of the original creators of the Reapers, and that is why the Reapers, or Leviathan are saying " You have come to far."
Modifié par byne, 02 août 2012 - 10:07 .
That would be peculiar for a sci-fi piece of work.masster blaster wrote...
Shepard is the last blood line, of the original creators of the Reapers, and that is why the Reapers, or Leviathan are saying " You have come to far."
True, but even Gravemind said the same thing, and considering the Flood wiped the Forerunners out (well technically they wiped themselves out to stop the Flood) You'd think an entity as old as Gravemind supposedly is would be able to tell.byne wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
*sigh* I really wish SOME lore out there would just stick with its continuity...AxStapleton wrote...
Arashi08 wrote...
wait..didn't Guilty Spark say that humans "are Forerunner?"byne wrote...
estebanus wrote...
You have no evidence that the reapers were on Terra. Also, are you telling me that cavemen existed at the same point a galactic civilization did? On the same damn planet? That makes no sense.
Oh god, lets hope it doesnt turn out like the Halo lore, where, from what I understand, not only were humans a spacefaring species 100,000 years ago, they were about as advanced as the mythical Forerunners, and were even at war with the Forerunners, but the Forerunners beat them in the war and destroyed all their tech and records, so we became cavemen or something.
It'd be like discovering primitive humans were advanced enough to put up a decent fight against the Reapers and almost beat them.
Not according to Halo 4 apparently.
Well, Guilty Spark was always like half rampant anyways. I wouldnt exactly take him as the best source of intel.
Plus, the Prophets made the same mistake. Thats why they made the Covenant declare war on Humanity. They thought that humans were surviving Forerunner, and the idea that any Forerunner didnt make the Great Journey would have undermined their religion, so they tried to wipe humanity out to keep the secret from getting out.
EpyonX3 wrote...
estebanus wrote...
Javik never said that they trained them to be reaper killers. He says that he believed them to be the best hope for this cycle, and I'm sure he was lying, since he more or less told Shepard afterwards that he did it to make Liara feel better.EpyonX3 wrote...
Catalyst says, "Just as we left your people alone the last time we were here." That's the best Evidence we've got that the reapers visited our planet and took out who ever was above us.
Also, I'm not saying the cave drawings are human and on earth. I think they are Asari, depicting the war they witnessed with the reapers and protheans. They may have even contributed. Again, Javik mentions actively training Asari to be the future's reaper killers.
Also, humanoid life can't suddenly grow on the same planet where other humanoid life may already live.
I think the Temple on Thessia is more evidence that supports that the Protheans were teaching and training the Asari. They directly intervined in their development.
Unless that humanoid life form was external, like the protheans were to the asari and the likes.
byne wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
Shepard is the last blood line, of the original creators of the Reapers, and that is why the Reapers, or Leviathan are saying " You have come to far."
That would suck harder than even the literal endings.
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