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[masster blaster]

Actually everyone if you think about it. Synthesis was aroun almost 2748 ems right, yet before the EC the breath scene was over 4000.

Now in the EC they set it to 3027 right, so this means Destroy is the best ending because if endings unlock everytime you get high EMS, then that makes Destroy the highest do to the breath scene.

[Dwailing]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Deliberately taking an action that will destroy all geth. It is genocide.

Again, not necesarily. We only know for sure that EDI dies.

It's also perfectly plausible that EDI's Dr Core body is what dies and not little EDI snug in her Quantum Blue Box. The destroy beam does not destroy all technology.

I would also like to point out that in Low EMS control edi's name shows up on the wall also...
But...she would still be alive in the ship. 

Yeah, I personally think that lends credence to the hallucination theory.  I mean, it's not like EDI would DIE if her mobile frame was destroyed.  Would she?

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

From the cockpit, which you've repeatedly said was what was there.

I said that there is something there, but i fail to see how it looks like a console. It first kinda seemed like apart of the pridge or something... How does it resembles the console?

Joker's console, in front of him, that he uses to pilot the ship. I don't see joker or the chair, but I see the console. It's just not orange obviously. it's the lower part of it. Well, maybe we're all seeing different things....

[Dwailing]

SwobyJ wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

So, hypothetically speaking, what if Bioware came down from on high and said that all the endings were viable and true at face value; that Control wasn't indoctrination and succeeded to the best of Shepard's ability, and that Synthesis was what they said it was? What would your reactions be?

*withholds further DLC and game money from Bioware*

I'd still see what they have for people, sure, especially for a new Mass Effect game, but I'd never preorder it. Maybe borrow it from a friend. If it just continues the 'virtues of Synthesis', then I'd just go 'eff it' and leave this company for the many many other games I have to play now and in the future, anyway.

I agree with this whole heartedly.  Synthesis is bull****, no other way to put it.  If they keep going with it, I might buy Dragon Age 3 at some point, but I would probably never buy another Mass Effect game. 

[Davik Kang]

Xilizhra wrote...
So, hypothetically speaking, what if Bioware came down from on high and said that all the endings were viable and true at face value; that Control wasn't indoctrination and succeeded to the best of Shepard's ability, and that Synthesis was what they said it was? What would your reactions be?

Would be fine with it.  It's pretty much what I think anyway, objectively speaking.  In the end you have to choose, and I decided that Destroy was essential because I thought I was being indoctrinated, but if you decide that you're not being indoctrinated, then the other choices become more valid.

Skillz1986 wrote...
I never said that paragon is bad or worse for that matter. My point was and still is..that unlike me1 or 2 "pure paragon" is not going to cut it in me3. Neither does pure renegade..you're meant to give it some thought...the calculus of war.

Spot on.

AresKeith wrote...
off-topic but I kinda wanted to see more Reaper Type Enemies

I always think this in newer games ever since Halo.  I guess because of the graphical improvements over the last 15 years, it becomes harder and harder to build a good enemy, so they sacrifice variation to make sure the ones who make it into the game are built really well.

[MissMaster_2]

Dwailing wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Deliberately taking an action that will destroy all geth. It is genocide.

Again, not necesarily. We only know for sure that EDI dies.

It's also perfectly plausible that EDI's Dr Core body is what dies and not little EDI snug in her Quantum Blue Box. The destroy beam does not destroy all technology.

I would also like to point out that in Low EMS control edi's name shows up on the wall also...
But...she would still be alive in the ship. 

Yeah, I personally think that lends credence to the hallucination theory.  I mean, it's not like EDI would DIE if her mobile frame was destroyed.  Would she?

No Dr. Eva's body is just like a remote control car EDI is still very much alive and inside of the ship. I don't think she would let them put her name on the wall. lol.

"Uh, Jeff...I'm right here."

[Davik Kang]

SwobyJ wrote...
I think Control could still be shown to make a difference, but its still indoctrination.

Just like if TIM has been indoctrinated from the start, he was still able to do things that helped a lot of people in the long run, but Saren? Totally gone.

The ironic thing is that I made a post a few hours ago saying Control is not indoctrination!  Or at least, not full indoctrination, more just breaking Shepard's will enough that she'd submit to the Reapers.  Without joining them like Saren did.

[Rifneno]

Control = indoctrinated Shepard. Synthesis = huskified Shepard. A Shepard that falls for synthesis isn't worth making a new Reaper out of.

[BatmanTurian]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Deliberately taking an action that will destroy all geth. It is genocide.

Again, not necesarily. We only know for sure that EDI dies.

It's also perfectly plausible that EDI's Dr Core body is what dies and not little EDI snug in her Quantum Blue Box. The destroy beam does not destroy all technology.

I would also like to point out that in Low EMS control edi's name shows up on the wall also...
But...she would still be alive in the ship. 

Yeah, I personally think that lends credence to the hallucination theory.  I mean, it's not like EDI would DIE if her mobile frame was destroyed.  Would she?

No Dr. Eva's body is just like a remote control car EDI is still very much alive and inside of the ship. I don't think she would let them put her name on the wall. lol.

"Uh, Jeff...I'm right here."

Except EDI doesn't have a self-aware personality anymore to say that, so your point is moot. What is mourned is the EDI that was alive and sentient.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

demersel wrote...

Yes!!! They trew us a bone! New femshep wallpaper! No the similiar traces of re-entry in the sky to that other picture with shepard! And that is clearly London, baby! 


that is the break of dawn over London!

I dunno why but the building in the center reminds me of Washington D.C., the White House and what not..

Nobody else sees the similarity between the center structure and leveled field infront of it with the Mall?
Also quoted the picture to bring it back for ease of viewing

[Davik Kang]

Xilizhra wrote...
Was that pre-EC?

You mean the code?  I don't remember, sorry.  I thought it was posted recently but it was a one-off post so I can't give more details.  It was something like Shep-Destroy.10000010001.something, and the others I don't remember, except that I think they had all 0s and no 1s.

Dwailing wrote...
Yeah, I personally think that lends credence to the hallucination theory.  I mean, it's not like EDI would DIE if her mobile frame was destroyed.  Would she?

I'm pretty sure Shepard can ask EDI this directly, right?  I'm pretty sure I asked her.  But I can't remember what she said damn it.

If anyone does remember, please post!

[masster blaster]

Okay guys I have to go. I got class in one minute so see ya.

[Humakt83]

There's something strange with Shepard's right eye in that picture. Some blue.

Modifié par Humakt83, 02 octobre 2012 - 06:22 .

[demersel]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

demersel wrote...

Yes!!! They trew us a bone! New femshep wallpaper! No the similiar traces of re-entry in the sky to that other picture with shepard! And that is clearly London, baby! 


that is the break of dawn over London!

I dunno why but the building in the center reminds me of Washington D.C., the White House and what not..

Nobody else sees the similarity between the center structure and leveled field infront of it with the Mall?
Also quoted the picture to bring it back for ease of viewing

That is exactly what it looks like.

[Humakt83]

I bet there's some hidden data in that picture.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

So maybe a reference to something? The U.S. Presidential Election day is Nov. 6, is'nt that also when they release the ME Trilogy pack? Early election in Texas starts Oct. 22...?

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 02 octobre 2012 - 06:25 .

[MissMaster_2]

BatmanTurian wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Deliberately taking an action that will destroy all geth. It is genocide.

Again, not necesarily. We only know for sure that EDI dies.

It's also perfectly plausible that EDI's Dr Core body is what dies and not little EDI snug in her Quantum Blue Box. The destroy beam does not destroy all technology.

I would also like to point out that in Low EMS control edi's name shows up on the wall also...
But...she would still be alive in the ship. 

Yeah, I personally think that lends credence to the hallucination theory.  I mean, it's not like EDI would DIE if her mobile frame was destroyed.  Would she?

No Dr. Eva's body is just like a remote control car EDI is still very much alive and inside of the ship. I don't think she would let them put her name on the wall. lol.

"Uh, Jeff...I'm right here."

Except EDI doesn't have a self-aware personality anymore to say that, so your point is moot. What is mourned is the EDI that was alive and sentient.

I don't think you understand what I mean. 
In low EMS Control when your crew gets blasted away by Herby, you watch EDI's fembot body get trashed. When you pick Control her name still shows up on the wall. The fembot is NOT EDI, she is still in the ship. She says this. EDI was very much alive and sentient even with out the body. That platform is disposable 

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

@MissMaster2 can we say that may have been a coding "error" for the Mem. Wall? Maybe it is set for whenever you lose a henchman it checks a box and thus, name appears?

[MissMaster_2]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

@MissMaster2 can we say that may have been a coding "error" for the Mem. Wall? Maybe it is set for whenever you lose a henchman it checks a box and thus, name appears?

It could be, but that is one big oversite by Q&A if it is. She says many times that she is not the fembot body and is still very much alive in her blue box. I take it as you jsut watched her get trashed so durring your hallucination you just imagine her name on that wall. 

Modifié par MissMaster_2, 02 octobre 2012 - 06:31 .

[demersel]

Guys. thought about how mass effect 4 might start - you import a save. Only saves that have more that 4000 ems are good for import - in the beginning shepard gets pulled out of the rubble by allies - and is woken up - the war is still rages on. The final choice have impact on some events of the game later on - (how shepard reacts to some events, and how is he more or less succeptable to further influence by the reapers). Refuse - saves cannot be imported - sheaprd dies before he's saved.
The breath scene after destroy - shepard waking up by himself right before he is rescued. - a hint to things that are yet to come, and a reward for players who did not get duped. synthesys and control saves will still be able to play, but they will know that they were have been tricked once, and will have penalties to further events and be more succeptable to indoctrination, as weel as having other diolog option now and then, which they have not control on, that push reaper agenda.

[BatmanTurian]

MissMaster_2 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MissMaster_2 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Deliberately taking an action that will destroy all geth. It is genocide.

Again, not necesarily. We only know for sure that EDI dies.

It's also perfectly plausible that EDI's Dr Core body is what dies and not little EDI snug in her Quantum Blue Box. The destroy beam does not destroy all technology.

I would also like to point out that in Low EMS control edi's name shows up on the wall also...
But...she would still be alive in the ship. 

Yeah, I personally think that lends credence to the hallucination theory.  I mean, it's not like EDI would DIE if her mobile frame was destroyed.  Would she?

No Dr. Eva's body is just like a remote control car EDI is still very much alive and inside of the ship. I don't think she would let them put her name on the wall. lol.

"Uh, Jeff...I'm right here."

Except EDI doesn't have a self-aware personality anymore to say that, so your point is moot. What is mourned is the EDI that was alive and sentient.

I don't think you understand what I mean. 
In low EMS Control when your crew gets blasted away by Herby, you watch EDI's fembot body get trashed. When you pick Control her name still shows up on the wall. The fembot is NOT EDI, she is still in the ship. She says this. EDI was very much alive and sentient even with out the body. That platform is disposable 

ah, then we agree on this. I think she's still in the quantum Blue Box, and I believe it's shielded from interference if I recall, so maybe the change in destroy can't even reach her there. The Fembot is what's destroyed, but then why would they put up her name. God, I hate these writers.

[BansheeOwnage]

Prepare yourselves for the arrival!

[demersel]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

So maybe a reference to something? The U.S. Presidential Election day is Nov. 6, is'nt that also when they release the ME Trilogy pack? Early election in Texas starts Oct. 22...?

You do know that London does have it's own Mall? and that's the one i was talking about - it was featured in the big ben trailer and it looks very similiar. 

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

Guys. thought about how mass effect 4 might start - you import a save. Only saves that have more that 4000 ems are good for import - in the beginning shepard gets pulled out of the rubble by allies - and is woken up - the war is still rages on. The final choice have impact on some events of the game later on - (how shepard reacts to some events, and how is he more or less succeptable to further influence by the reapers). Refuse - saves cannot be imported - sheaprd dies before he's saved.
The breath scene after destroy - shepard waking up by himself right before he is rescued. - a hint to things that are yet to come, and a reward for players who did not get duped. synthesys and control saves will still be able to play, but they will know that they were have been tricked once, and will have penalties to further events and be more succeptable to indoctrination, as weel as having other diolog option now and then, which they have not control on, that push reaper agenda.

Well, they said this is the end of Shepard's story ( they said a lot of things and went back on that didn't they? bah!) So Shepard would have a minor role in ME4 if he/she's still alive, perhaps even promoted to Anderson's rank or an Admiral, which leaves room for Vega or... ugh... Coates to be troops on the ground, so-to-speak. If we're right about IT, then Control and Synth makes Shepard the villain and Destroy makes Shep the Mentor.