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[TSA_383]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
So, Banshee and I were watching the Earth DLC trailer again, because it's awesome, and he noticed something very interesting. I'll get the that in a second, though. The trailer is mostly made out of SP and MP footage, but there are a couple scenes which are brand new.
In London there are three scenes: a shot of the N7 & Anderson group standing in a circle, which then cuts to a long shot of the same, with Reaper forces closing in. Then, at the end of the trailer, it shows the same circle again.
In Rio, it shows a Shuttle flying in, and then later, a squad of a Destroyer, Fury, Demolisher, and Slayer jump out of the shuttle on the walkway on the waterfall side, near the middle building. Also, the scene earlier of the same four most likely is part of this as well.
Back to the big important find! This!


That's right, four Cruisers over London! There is no way this is taking place before the fleets arrive, and certainly not during the final battle in game. Also, it looks like this:


Hmm...
All credit to Banshee for finding this

Also, while I'm at it, I'd like to mention a few more interesting post-end type things from these two trailers:
This is the base for the post-ending Rio idea I came up with:
Look at the way each character moves and acts; the Destroyer is Shepard, the Fury is Anderson, and the Demolisher and Slayer and Squadmate 1 and 2.


"Anderson" turns and says something to everyone.


Camera zooms in on "Shepard", who looks around. This is pretty much the same as all of the "just about to take control of Shepard before a mission" scenes ever.


Also, Hammerhead!

The fleets overhead...

That's, er, I can't believe nobody's noticed so far 

[BatmanTurian]

I have a feeling there will be some new character that will take Shepard's place and Shepard will be the mentor, like Anderson. It's a feeling I have based on what they've said and my own story intuition. But I could easily be wrong.

[Dwailing]

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

ME4 sequel + literal endings + fighting Reapers CANNOT exist

And yet anything other than a sequel + fighting reapers cannot exist, There  - proves IT, )

and What if the Reapers are truely destroyed in all possible endings, and there is a bigger threat? That doesn't prove IT.

He's saying that there can't be a true sequel to ME3 that still involves fighting the Reapers without IT. *Insert snarky comment here*

But that is assuming the Reapers are still out there. The Sequel could not involve the reapers at all. It is meer speculation on what the next installment could be. 

I know that the sequel could not involve the Reapers at all, but that is moving beyond the confines of spotless and demersel's posts.  They specifically addressed a situation where the Reapers are the villains in ME4, with it being a direct sequel to ME3.  In that specific situation, they could not do a sequel without IT.

[demersel]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Bigger threat might be Leviathans. Who knows what sneaky business they've been up to.

Leviathans are not a bigger threat - they are only a threat in only one ending if literal - destroy - in two others - they still suck, cause reapers are around to kill them all off. 

[BatmanTurian]

in fact, a prequel would be stupid, and I don't see how they will have some new bad guy in a sequel when everyone in the galaxy is Synthesized and all rainbows and unicorns. Then there's control where Shepard is a benevolent dictator and won't take any disturbances lightly. This is assuming canon is literal endings of course.

Unless the bad guys are some new super-race from Andromeda or a much more advanced form of Reaper that evolved in Andromeda.... hmmm...

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Bigger threat might be Leviathans. Who knows what sneaky business they've been up to.

Leviathans are not a bigger threat - they are only a threat in only one ending if literal - destroy - in two others - they still suck, cause reapers are around to kill them all off. 

one ending where we all agree a sequel would be easier since the slate is clean.

[Dwailing]

BatmanTurian wrote...

in fact, a prequel would be stupid, and I don't see how they will have some new bad guy in a sequel when everyone in the galaxy is Synthesized and all rainbows and unicorns. Then there's control where Shepard is a benevolent dictator and won't take any disturbances lightly. This is assuming canon is literal endings of course.

Unless the bad guys are some new super-race from Andromeda or a much more advanced form of Reaper that evolved in Andromeda.... hmmm...

The cycle continues...

[demersel]

BatmanTurian wrote...

in fact, a prequel would be stupid, and I don't see how they will have some new bad guy in a sequel when everyone in the galaxy is Synthesized and all rainbows and unicorns. Then there's control where Shepard is a benevolent dictator and won't take any disturbances lightly. This is assuming canon is literal endings of course.

Unless the bad guys are some new super-race from Andromeda or a much more advanced form of Reaper that evolved in Andromeda.... hmmm...

Hah - a new bad guy that is more bad ass than the reapers would be lame - cause it will be dealt with in one game, while the reapers who would be less bad ass got three full games already. No. it will be the reapers. 

[MajorKellyRisner]

Modifié par MajorKellyRisner, 02 octobre 2012 - 07:55 .

[MajorKellyRisner]

No they didn't, i looked it up. Maybe somewhere else you read that, but from what i read, it didn;t say anything about Reapers in ME4

[paxxton]

A prequel might be really cool if BioWare decided to set it in Leviathans' times. We would witness how the thralls really were treated, how they developed lethal machines. Finally, we would get a chance to see how Leviathans created the Intelligence and what happened when it arrived at the Reaper solution.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 octobre 2012 - 07:56 .

[401 Kill]

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

It was in response to spotlessvoid's math equation.

[demersel]

BatmanTurian wrote...

demersel wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Bigger threat might be Leviathans. Who knows what sneaky business they've been up to.

Leviathans are not a bigger threat - they are only a threat in only one ending if literal - destroy - in two others - they still suck, cause reapers are around to kill them all off. 

one ending where we all agree a sequel would be easier since the slate is clean.

But it is the one ending that we agree is clearly wake up from a dream.... and with that in mind one ending where there is deffinatly nothing is resolved yet. ))

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

A prequel might be really cool if BioWare decided to set it in Leviathans' times. We would witness how the thralls really were treated, how they developed lethal machines. Finally, we would get a chance to see how Leviathans created the Intelligence and what happened when it arrived at the Reaper solution.

prequels are boring.

It'll be Mass Effect: Titanic

WE KNOW HOW IT ENDS

Boring.

[MajorKellyRisner]

401 Kill wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...

It was in response to spotlessvoid's math equation.

Exactly...E=mc+reapers =Levianthan. Makes perfect sense

[401 Kill]

paxxton wrote...

A prequel might be really cool if BioWare decided to set it in Leviathans' times. We would witness how the thralls really were treated, how they developed lethal machines. Finally, we would get a chance to see how Leviathans created the Intelligence and what happened when it arrived at the Reaper solution.

Yes, but no humans would be a turn-off to some players, and we know that the thrall races have been exterminated. Btw, you linked page 945 into your sig?

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

demersel wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Bigger threat might be Leviathans. Who knows what sneaky business they've been up to.

Leviathans are not a bigger threat - they are only a threat in only one ending if literal - destroy - in two others - they still suck, cause reapers are around to kill them all off. 

one ending where we all agree a sequel would be easier since the slate is clean.

But it is the one ending that we agree is clearly wake up from a dream.... and with that in mind one ending where there is deffinatly nothing is resolved yet. ))

But even in that wake up version of destroy, Leviathans are still a slight threat. But really, we could probably bombard them from orbit at this point. So yeah. I said a stupid thing.

[Bill Casey]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

A
prequel might be really cool if BioWare decided to set it in Leviathans'
times. We would witness how the thralls really were treated, how they
developed lethal machines. Finally, we would get a chance to see how
Leviathans created the Intelligence and what happened when it arrived at
the Reaper solution.

prequels are boring.

It'll be Mass Effect: Titanic

WE KNOW HOW IT ENDS

Boring. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

Titanic made James Cameron a lot of money...
Money can buy jetskis...
Jetskis are not boring...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .

[MaximizedAction]

Dwailing wrote...

Maximized!  Jeez, I haven't seen you in AGES.  And yes, who knows what BW will do with Shepard.  I'm still holding out hope for babies in Shep's future.

Yeah, lost a bit of motivation discussing ME - got also a bit consumed by Assassin's Creed 2.

But I think I'm slowly turning back towards ME3, especially after that recent tweet by Gamble...also paxx helped a bit getting me back in here.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:05 .

[Restrider]

paxxton wrote...
Page 945

How dare you...!
Edit: To give this post some meaning I'd like to address the IT FAQ again. Is Banshee having some kind of documentation regarding the collected evidence? If so, I'd like to take a glimpse onto it. 

Modifié par Restrider, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:14 .

[Vibez]

paxxton wrote...

A prequel might be really cool if BioWare decided to set it in Leviathans' times. We would witness how the thralls really were treated, how they developed lethal machines. Finally, we would get a chance to see how Leviathans created the Intelligence and what happened when it arrived at the Reaper solution.

I would rather see myself this kind of story in some sort of short movie or ingame cinematic. Guys are right, prequel won't work in ME Universe. Cycles before = creating completely new game world, races, technologies, events, characters, everything. First Contact War = humanity yet without crucial technologies, only one other race, conflict we know how ends. It simply won't work. 

Next ME game (in my opinion) also can't overlap with current events. If we take endings literal for a moment: major part of the galaxy is completely / partially destroyed and currently rebuilding, everybody's exhausted, Reaper threat is over. Nothing really interesting if you ask me. But give the game's world at least a hundred years, and the writers can literally do anything with it. New technologies, maybe a way to travel to other galaxy, etc. That's why it has to be placed in some longer future.

Modifié par Vibez, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:17 .

[BatmanTurian]

Bill Casey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

A
prequel might be really cool if BioWare decided to set it in Leviathans'
times. We would witness how the thralls really were treated, how they
developed lethal machines. Finally, we would get a chance to see how
Leviathans created the Intelligence and what happened when it arrived at
the Reaper solution.

prequels are boring.

It'll be Mass Effect: Titanic

WE KNOW HOW IT ENDS

Boring. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

Titanic made James Cameron a lot of money...
Money can buy jetskis...
Jetskis are not boring...

The ending will be the same no matter what we do, so there will be no choice, and then it won't be Mass Effect anymore.

[spotlessvoid]

Mass Effect is special in that it made you feel like your actions shape the universe you live/play in. Any prequel will remove that feeling entirely since the annihilation of everything you build is a forgone conclusion.

[401 Kill]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Mass Effect is special in that it made you feel like your actions shape the universe you live/play in. Any prequel will remove that feeling entirely since the annihilation of everything you build is a forgone conclusion.

Good point, plus the outcome of important events is already documented.