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[Rankincountry]

MajorKellyRisner wrote...
It is meer speculation on what the next installment could be. 

Meer speculation? Well at least you're feeling Hale and hearty.

[BatmanTurian]

Rankincountry wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...
It is meer speculation on what the next installment could be. 

Meer speculation? Well at least you're feeling Hale and hearty.

oh god, the puns. they burn!

[spotlessvoid]

A sequel with control is stupid. Any conflict and Shreaper comes in to wreck shop.

A synthesis sequel is stupid. Any conflict and rainbow unicorns come in to wreck shop. Plus, it's ****ing synthesis.

Destroy is the only possibility for literal canon because there is still the possibility of conflict. Of course, just battling the Leviathan is going to feel like it's the Reapers with a different coat of paint (Look, Reapers! But Squishy) but at least there's a even a possible game to be made.

Non humans cycle will kill the feeling of ownership over the player avatar.

The only possible games are based off destroy, IT or not, Shepard or not.


Also, literal endings and having destroy be canon is spitting in the face of control and synthesis choosers. It makes their decisuon like it didnt even happen. Only through IT can all choices still be relevant while also allowing a canon ending

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:43 .

[Rankincountry]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Rankincountry wrote...

MajorKellyRisner wrote...
It is meer speculation on what the next installment could be. 

Meer speculation? Well at least you're feeling Hale and hearty.

oh god, the puns. they burn!

Couldn't resist that one.... I knew it was wrong and did it anyway. Talking of burning, I knew this hipster who scalded his tongue drinking coffee before it was cool.

[Rankincountry]

spotlessvoid wrote...

A sequel with control is stupid. Any conflict and Shreaper comes in to wreck shop.

A synthesis sequel is stupid. Any conflict and rainbow unicorns come in to wreck shop. Plus, it's ****ing synthesis.

Destroy is the only possibility for literal canon because there is still the possibility of conflict. Of course, just battling the Leviathan is going to feel like it's the Reapers with a different coat of paint (Look, Reapers! But Squishy) but at least there's a even a possible game to be made.

Non humans cycle will kill the feeling of ownership over the player avatar.

The only possible games are based off destroy, IT or not, Shepard or not.

Agreed. Though I think the scariest non-reaper species is the Yahg. If I was a Leviathan with aspirations for galactic domination, I'd definitely pick them as thralls. Naturally this hubristic act would backfire on me catastrophically in some way, probably resulting in a slavering horde of uplifted Yahg that makes the Krogan look like the Salvation Army.

[TSA_383]

There's a wider aspect version of the shepard poster, unfortunately only at facebook banner res:

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Good find on those Cruisers over London. I don't think they'd go in atmo just to drop off/pick up troops, they'd use drop shuttles, too much of a risk otherwise. Well, more of a risk anyway.

[spotlessvoid]

Also, literal endings and having destroy be canon is spitting in the face of control and synthesis choosers. It makes their decision like it didn't even happen. Only through IT can all choices still be relevant while also allowing a canon ending

[demersel]

A thought....remember how they dealt with ME2 squaddies and all the characters that could die in in previous games in ME3? They created a substitute characters to fill in their crucial roles, if they are dead - and those fill in characters were just that - some NPCs...

What if they are going to do the same thing with shepard in the next game if IT? Those who picked destroy - get to play as their shepard. Those who did not - will greate a brand new character - some hammer soldier, that also got knocked out into the rubble - And those who picked control or synthesys will have their shepard turned villian while they play that random soldier? Thoughts?

[BatmanTurian]

spotlessvoid wrote...

A sequel with control is stupid. Any conflict and Shreaper comes in to wreck shop.

A synthesis sequel is stupid. Any conflict and rainbow unicorns come in to wreck shop. Plus, it's ****ing synthesis.

Destroy is the only possibility for literal canon because there is still the possibility of conflict. Of course, just battling the Leviathan is going to feel like it's the Reapers with a different coat of paint (Look, Reapers! But Squishy) but at least there's a even a possible game to be made.

Non humans cycle will kill the feeling of ownership over the player avatar.

The only possible games are based off destroy, IT or not, Shepard or not.


Also, literal endings and having destroy be canon is spitting in the face of control and synthesis choosers. It makes their decisuon like it didnt even happen. Only through IT can all choices still be relevant while also allowing a canon ending

I agree in every way.  Unless they have something else up their sleeve, Destroy is the only ending that allows both conflict and human survival. Since we need conflict and humans to tell a story humans will be interested in and sympathize with, it's a foregone conclusion that destroy will be the canon ending simply by virtue of pure logic.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 02 octobre 2012 - 08:51 .

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

A thought....remember how they dealt with ME2 squaddies and all the characters that could die in in previous games in ME3? They created a substitute characters to fill in their crucial roles, if they are dead - and those fill in characters were just that - some NPCs...

What if they are going to do the same thing with shepard in the next game if IT? Those who picked destroy - get to play as their shepard. Those who did not - will greate a brand new character - some hammer soldier, that also got knocked out into the rubble - And those who picked control or synthesys will have their shepard turned villian while they play that random soldier? Thoughts?

That seems plausible, but control and Synth don't lend themselves to conflict that could tell a good story.

[spotlessvoid]

demersel wrote...

A thought....remember how they dealt with ME2 squaddies and all the characters that could die in in previous games in ME3? They created a substitute characters to fill in their crucial roles, if they are dead - and those fill in characters were just that - some NPCs...

What if they are going to do the same thing with shepard in the next game if IT? Those who picked destroy - get to play as their shepard. Those who did not - will greate a brand new character - some hammer soldier, that also got knocked out into the rubble - And those who picked control or synthesys will have their shepard turned villian while they play that random soldier? Thoughts?

from a making a game stand point thats two story lines and a lot of extra VA work. male and female Shep and male and female noob

[401 Kill]

demersel wrote...

A thought....remember how they dealt with ME2 squaddies and all the characters that could die in in previous games in ME3? They created a substitute characters to fill in their crucial roles, if they are dead - and those fill in characters were just that - some NPCs...

What if they are going to do the same thing with shepard in the next game if IT? Those who picked destroy - get to play as their shepard. Those who did not - will greate a brand new character - some hammer soldier, that also got knocked out into the rubble - And those who picked control or synthesys will have their shepard turned villian while they play that random soldier? Thoughts?

I think that would anger fans who picked control and synthesis, but who also want to play as Shepard if he is available. I understand replacing squad members, but having an entire ME game where you won't be able to play as Shepard unless you picked destroy, but instead play as a random charecter, it doesn't seem likely.

[Vibez]

demersel wrote...

A thought....remember how they dealt with ME2 squaddies and all the characters that could die in in previous games in ME3? They created a substitute characters to fill in their crucial roles, if they are dead - and those fill in characters were just that - some NPCs...

What if they are going to do the same thing with shepard in the next game if IT? Those who picked destroy - get to play as their shepard. Those who did not - will greate a brand new character - some hammer soldier, that also got knocked out into the rubble - And those who picked control or synthesys will have their shepard turned villian while they play that random soldier? Thoughts?

Too much diversity. It would take enormous costs to develop game with so many possibilities to cover everything. Remember, Shepard is that kind of character which you build the whole game around (like three Mass Effect games). And in new ME game, he / she would have a history, which you can't forget about. Whole character 'being' would depend on it. Thats like writing twice as many dialogues, scenes, everything.

[demersel]

401 Kill wrote...
I think that would anger fans who picked control and synthesis, but who also want to play as Shepard if he is available. I understand replacing squad members, but having an entire ME game where you won't be able to play as Shepard unless you picked destroy, but instead play as a random charecter, it doesn't seem likely.

Not random - new! And the game would be centered around him.   Playing as Shepard would be a bonus.   And in this way you get one less major storyline.  It is much work, but not a lot more than Mass Effect 3 was - dealing with all those flags and choices. 

[demersel]

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

Sure, we're just giving our opinions on it. You can choose to believe what you want. It sounds cool, but I'm having problems working out how it would work in my head. Don't take our naysaying as trying to shout you down.

[paxxton]

LOL. The link to Page 945 has been in my sig for a couple days now. IMO the posts are really fun there.

Modifié par paxxton, 02 octobre 2012 - 09:11 .

[spotlessvoid]

demersel wrote...

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

Nobody said the idea isn't cool. Just that Shepard would interact completely differently with all the squad than how a noob would. And if Shepard is there you can bet Garrus, Tali,Liara etc wouldn't turn there backs on him by not staying.

It really would be two entirely different games. I'd rather they spend those resources on making one amazing game

[demersel]

BatmanTurian wrote...

demersel wrote...

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

Sure, we're just giving our opinions on it. You can choose to believe what you want. It sounds cool, but I'm having problems working out how it would work in my head. Don't take our naysaying as trying to shout you down.

Well - it would work something like that - 

You start writing ME3 with a new character in mind - And then you just sort of cut some parts of it, and change the rest slightly so it would fit Shpeard. 

[401 Kill]

BatmanTurian wrote...

demersel wrote...

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

Sure, we're just giving our opinions on it. You can choose to believe what you want. It sounds cool, but I'm having problems working out how it would work in my head. Don't take our naysaying as trying to shout you down.

+1

[demersel]

spotlessvoid wrote...

demersel wrote...

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

Nobody said the idea isn't cool. Just that Shepard would interact completely differently with all the squad than how a noob would. And if Shepard is there you can bet Garrus, Tali,Liara etc wouldn't turn there backs on him by not staying.

It really would be two entirely different games. I'd rather they spend those resources on making one amazing game

Yes....but what is your whole crew is indoctrinated? and when shepard wakes up he can't meet up with them right away, and is forced to work with a totally new crew? And during the course of the game you fill find your squaddies in different places, making them snap out of the indoctrination?  as a new character you'll just get new crew and still go to the same places and meet your squaddies and they are still indoctrinated to some degree (still fighting the reapers but doing more harm than good, or being like sleeper agents ready to snap at any second or both) 

[MajorKellyRisner]

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/14327443 

Thoses are the things I will be addressing sometime this week...

[demersel]

This would work as sort of Anti ME3 - in me3 you go to places and meet your former squaddies at crucial point doing some good, but in ME4 it will be something like that but instead they are situations waiting to happen and needed to defuse - and it won't be obvious right away.

[BatmanTurian]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

demersel wrote...

And i'm not suggesting they do it immideatly - i just thought it would be a cool thing to do. Isn't it what this thread is about - discussing what would be cool to do if IT is true?

Nobody said the idea isn't cool. Just that Shepard would interact completely differently with all the squad than how a noob would. And if Shepard is there you can bet Garrus, Tali,Liara etc wouldn't turn there backs on him by not staying.

It really would be two entirely different games. I'd rather they spend those resources on making one amazing game

Yes....but what is your whole crew is indoctrinated? and when shepard wakes up he can't meet up with them right away, and is forced to work with a totally new crew? And during the course of the game you fill find your squaddies in different places, making them snap out of the indoctrination?  as a new character you'll just get new crew and still go to the same places and meet your squaddies and they are still indoctrinated to some degree (still fighting the reapers but doing more harm than good, or being like sleeper agents ready to snap at any second or both) 

If they're already indoctrinated, they can't be snapped out of it. Maybe Liara (like her mother) but only temporarily. If you actually mean " in-the-process-of", then it's possible. :unsure:Maybe.