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[spotlessvoid]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I've  been thinking a lot about the (probable) sequel lately, and I had a thought. If they chose not-destroy as canon, that totally invalidates players choice to have Shepard live through destroy. Likewise, if they choose destroy as canon, then Shepard would live, and it would be very akward indeed to have Shepard as an NPC.

Posted this earlier today. Thoughts Banshee?


A sequel with control is stupid. Any conflict and Shreaper comes in to wreck shop.

A synthesis sequel is stupid. Any conflict and rainbow unicorns come in to wreck shop. Plus, it's ****ing synthesis.

Destroy is the only possibility for literal canon because there is still the possibility of conflict. Of course,just battling the Leviathan is going to feel like it's the Reapers with adifferent coat of paint (Look, Reapers! But Squishy) but at least there's aeven a possible game to be made.

Non humans cycle will kill the feeling of ownership over the player avatar.

The only possible games are based off destroy, IT or not, Shepard or not.

Also, literal endings and havingdestroy be canon is spitting in the face of control and synthesis choosers. It makes their decisuon like it didnt even happen. Only through IT can all choices still be relevant while also allowing a canon ending

[Destructorlio]

I know it sounds nuts but, just like Deckard being a replicant, I still believe that IT is an intentional decision by the creators of ME, and is 'the answer' to the ending mystery. While I doubt there will be an ME4 set after the ME3 climax, if there was I hope it would validate IT.

[spotlessvoid]

Mass Effect is special in that it made you feel like your actions shape the universe you live/play in. Any prequel will remove that feeling entirely since the annihilation of everything you build is a forgone conclusion.

[ZerebusPrime]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another thought: why have the Geth experimented and improved on the research of Project Overlord? It's named even if you didn't do the DLC. Why do research on this interface of organics and machines... owait.

(the blue glowing eyes and the flash like the banshee screems are nice too)


Also maybe it's familiar for her brain because she is indeed a vi which thinks it's Shepard but is not etc

Don't forget that the Reapers were having the Geth massproduce the same VR pods that we used to enter the Geth Concensus (the facility just outside the pit where the Reaper resided on Rannoch had pod after pod moving on an assembly line).

[BansheeOwnage]

spotlessvoid wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I've  been thinking a lot about the (probable) sequel lately, and I had a thought. If they chose not-destroy as canon, that totally invalidates players choice to have Shepard live through destroy. Likewise, if they choose destroy as canon, then Shepard would live, and it would be very akward indeed to have Shepard as an NPC.

Posted this earlier today. Thoughts Banshee?


A sequel with control is stupid. Any conflict and Shreaper comes in to wreck shop.

A synthesis sequel is stupid. Any conflict and rainbow unicorns come in to wreck shop. Plus, it's ****ing synthesis.

Destroy is the only possibility for literal canon because there is still the possibility of conflict. Of course,just battling the Leviathan is going to feel like it's the Reapers with adifferent coat of paint (Look, Reapers! But Squishy) but at least there's aeven a possible game to be made.

Non humans cycle will kill the feeling of ownership over the player avatar.

The only possible games are based off destroy, IT or not, Shepard or not.

Also, literal endings and havingdestroy be canon is spitting in the face of control and synthesis choosers. It makes their decisuon like it didnt even happen. Only through IT can all choices still be relevant while also allowing a canon ending

I'll start by saying that was really, really weird. I'm currently reading through the pages I missed, and as soon as I got to this freaking post I was like: "I'll F5 the thread now." This post! Wow.

Anyway, I agree. We effectively narrowed it down to a sequel, and you're right, destroy is really the only option they can use. (Might as well use IT too.) I also had a thought that all 3 endings could be canon, in the sense that Shepard dying in the suicide mission is canon. It simply ends that Shepard's story. So, in IT you would be indoctrinated, so it would still be an important decision.

I also agree about the Leviathans simply being reskinned (literally) reapers.

Squishy reapers!

[BansheeOwnage]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Another thought: why have the Geth experimented and improved on the research of Project Overlord? It's named even if you didn't do the DLC. Why do research on this interface of organics and machines... owait.

(the blue glowing eyes and the flash like the banshee screems are nice too)


Also maybe it's familiar for her brain because she is indeed a vi which thinks it's Shepard but is not etc

Don't forget that the Reapers were having the Geth massproduce the same VR pods that we used to enter the Geth Concensus (the facility just outside the pit where the Reaper resided on Rannoch had pod after pod moving on an assembly line).

And in Firebase Hydra.

[spotlessvoid]

IT Blade Runner comparison is bogus. IT doesn't show if and how the Reapers are defeated. A more apt comparison would be if Blade runner ended with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

[spotlessvoid]

They could always make it where indoctrinated Shepard can't be imported to ME4

[BansheeOwnage]

spotlessvoid wrote...

They could always make it where indoctrinated Shepard can't be imported to ME4

Like dead Shep in ME2.

[spotlessvoid]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

They could always make it where indoctrinated Shepard can't be imported to ME4

Like dead Shep in ME2.

I just reread your post and realized I misread important as imported. So yeah, like you said lol

[spotlessvoid]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

IT Blade Runner comparison is bogus. IT doesn't show if and how the Reapers are defeated. A more apt comparison would be if Blade runner ended with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Quite correct. Though I haven't seen that movie, I know that that question is not important from a story point of view. Whereas in IT, you don't even know if the reapers are defeated or not...

That would be more like if in Harry Potter 7, Harry gets blasted my Voldemort, then talks to - Whoa. This is creepily similar - Wakes up in some glowing train station and talks to Dumbledore about some stuff that doesn't really make sense, an enemy that is beyond saving, and how Harry has to make a decision. It's also all ethereal and takes up virtually no time in the outside world. After that, Harry asks Dumbledore if this was real, or if it was in his head, to which Dumbledore replies, "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

Then it would have a scene of Harry lying on the forest floor and taking a breath. Then credits.

Whoa.

First off, you may be wondering how I can respond to Banshee's post before it even happened. Well, it happened. Accept it.



Whoa! Never seen it, but yes, that may sound just a little familiar. I like the part where some people would argue the tress were lamposts.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 03 octobre 2012 - 04:44 .

[BansheeOwnage]

spotlessvoid wrote...

IT Blade Runner comparison is bogus. IT doesn't show if and how the Reapers are defeated. A more apt comparison would be if Blade runner ended with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Quite correct. Though I haven't seen that movie, I know that that question is not important from a story point of view. Whereas in IT, you don't even know if the reapers are defeated or not...

That would be more like if in Harry Potter 7, Harry gets blasted my Voldemort, then talks to - Whoa. This is creepily similar - Wakes up in some glowing train station and talks to Dumbledore about some stuff that doesn't really make sense, an enemy that is beyond saving, and how Harry has to make a decision. It's also all ethereal and takes up virtually no time in the outside world. After that, Harry asks Dumbledore if this was real, or if it was in his head, to which Dumbledore replies, "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

Then it would have a scene of Harry lying on the forest floor and taking a breath. Then credits.

Whoa.

[BansheeOwnage]

demersel wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

ME4 sequel + literal endings + fighting Reapers CANNOT exist

And yet anything other than a sequel + fighting reapers cannot exist, There  - proves IT, )

If we fight reapers, then yes. Definitely.

I'll be back in 45.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

IT Blade Runner comparison is bogus. IT doesn't show if and how the Reapers are defeated. A more apt comparison would be if Blade runner ended with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Quite correct. Though I haven't seen that movie, I know that that question is not important from a story point of view. Whereas in IT, you don't even know if the reapers are defeated or not...

That would be more like if in Harry Potter 7, Harry gets blasted my Voldemort, then talks to - Whoa. This is creepily similar - Wakes up in some glowing train station and talks to Dumbledore about some stuff that doesn't really make sense, an enemy that is beyond saving, and how Harry has to make a decision. It's also all ethereal and takes up virtually no time in the outside world. After that, Harry asks Dumbledore if this was real, or if it was in his head, to which Dumbledore replies, "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

Then it would have a scene of Harry lying on the forest floor and taking a breath. Then credits.

Whoa.

I like that comparison a lot! But Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep holds a special place in my heart <3

[Big_Boss9]

I'm thinking with the especially long development time between patches that this is likely the last planned one. Assuming, of course, it doesn't break more than it fixes. I wish this wasn't dropping a day before an Operation. Speaking of broken, the Datapad app's Galaxy At War feature hasn't worked since iOS 6 went live. It's been two weeks, Bioware. Get on it.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 03 octobre 2012 - 04:54 .

[Gwyphon]

I still think "But Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is one of the most amazing book titles ever.

[Rifneno]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

I've  been thinking a lot about the (probable) sequel lately, and I had a thought. If they chose not-destroy as canon, that totally invalidates players choice to have Shepard live through destroy. Likewise, if they choose destroy as canon, then Shepard would live, and it would be very akward indeed to have Shepard as an NPC.

Posted this earlier today. Thoughts Banshee?


A sequel with control is stupid. Any conflict and Shreaper comes in to wreck shop.

A synthesis sequel is stupid. Any conflict and rainbow unicorns come in to wreck shop. Plus, it's ****ing synthesis.

Destroy is the only possibility for literal canon because there is still the possibility of conflict. Of course,just battling the Leviathan is going to feel like it's the Reapers with adifferent coat of paint (Look, Reapers! But Squishy) but at least there's aeven a possible game to be made.

Non humans cycle will kill the feeling of ownership over the player avatar.

The only possible games are based off destroy, IT or not, Shepard or not.

Also, literal endings and havingdestroy be canon is spitting in the face of control and synthesis choosers. It makes their decisuon like it didnt even happen. Only through IT can all choices still be relevant while also allowing a canon ending

I'll start by saying that was really, really weird. I'm currently reading through the pages I missed, and as soon as I got to this freaking post I was like: "I'll F5 the thread now." This post! Wow.

Anyway, I agree. We effectively narrowed it down to a sequel, and you're right, destroy is really the only option they can use. (Might as well use IT too.) I also had a thought that all 3 endings could be canon, in the sense that Shepard dying in the suicide mission is canon. It simply ends that Shepard's story. So, in IT you would be indoctrinated, so it would still be an important decision.

I also agree about the Leviathans simply being reskinned (literally) reapers.

Squishy reapers!

I like this one better:

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Gwyphon wrote...

I still think "But Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is one of the most amazing book titles ever.

Fixed 
Dunno if you were implying that I  meant "But" to be part of the title though haha 

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

On a side note those creepy bastards freak me out! Cuttlefish are smart creatures! Have you ever met one?

[BleedingUranium]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

IT Blade Runner comparison is bogus. IT doesn't show if and how the Reapers are defeated. A more apt comparison would be if Blade runner ended with Deckard hanging from the rooftop

Quite correct. Though I haven't seen that movie, I know that that question is not important from a story point of view. Whereas in IT, you don't even know if the reapers are defeated or not...

That would be more like if in Harry Potter 7, Harry gets blasted my Voldemort, then talks to - Whoa. This is creepily similar - Wakes up in some glowing train station and talks to Dumbledore about some stuff that doesn't really make sense, an enemy that is beyond saving, and how Harry has to make a decision. It's also all ethereal and takes up virtually no time in the outside world. After that, Harry asks Dumbledore if this was real, or if it was in his head, to which Dumbledore replies, "Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?"

Then it would have a scene of Harry lying on the forest floor and taking a breath. Then credits.

Whoa.

Yay!

[Rifneno]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

On a side note those creepy bastards freak me out! Cuttlefish are smart creatures! Have you ever met one?

Once.  It had a brain the size of a dime, but it still realized synthesis was retarded.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Rifneno wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

On a side note those creepy bastards freak me out! Cuttlefish are smart creatures! Have you ever met one?

Once.  It had a brain the size of a dime, but it still realized synthesis was retarded.

Haha! 

[Gwyphon]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

I still think "But Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is one of the most amazing book titles ever.

Fixed
Dunno if you were implying that I meant "But" to be part of the title though haha

Heh my bad. I don't know how I even did that, the book is sitting right next to me. I think I was reading and typing at the same time. Embarrassing...

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Gwyphon wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Gwyphon wrote...

I still think "But Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is one of the most amazing book titles ever.

Fixed
Dunno if you were implying that I meant "But" to be part of the title though haha

Heh my bad. I don't know how I even did that, the book is sitting right next to me. I think I was reading and typing at the same time. Embarrassing...

Haha its ok! 

[Rifneno]

"Would antibotics weaken biotic powers" ... I... Jesus. The "ask a question" section of the wikia is like a simulation of what it'd be like to have late stage brain cancer.