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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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BleedingUranium

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Reposting for those who didn't see it:


???: "Refresh your page."

Moderator Shepard: "What? Where am I?"

???: "The Indoctrination Theory Thread."

Moderator Shepard: "Who... Who are you?"

???: "I am the internet."

Moderator Shepard: "I thought the BSN was the internet."

The Internet: "No, the BSN is part of me."

Moderator Shepard: "I need to stop the Trolls, do you... know how I can do that?"

The Internet: "Perhaps, I control the Trolls. They are my solution..."

Moderator Shepard: "The solution to what?"

The Internet: "Spam. Idiots will always spam the intelligent..."

The Internet: "But we found a way to stop that from happening, a way to restore order for the next thread."

Moderator Shepard: "By derailing the entire thread?"

The Internet: "No. We troll the intelligent, leaving the less intelligent ones alone. Just like we left you the last time we were here."

Moderator Shepard: "But you trolled the rest..."

The Internet: "We helped them ascend so they can make way for new users, storing the old user in troll form."

Moderator Shepard: "I think we'd rather keep our own form."

The Internet:"No, you can't... Without us to stop it, idiots would destroy all intelligence. We've created this cycle so that never happens. That's the solution."

Moderator Shepard: "So now what?"

The Internet: "We find a new solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah, but how?"

The Internet: "The Topic... changed me. Created new... Possibilities... But I can't make them happen. I know you've thought about banning us. You can ban all the Trolls if you want. Including the idiots... But even your posts are partly pointless."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will be banned?"

The Internet: "Yes, but the discussion won't last. Soon, new users will act like idiots and then the chaos will come back."

Moderator Shepard: "Maybe..."

The Internet: "Or do you think you can win an argument against us?"

Moderator Shepard: "Huh. So... the users who tried to debate were right after all."

The Internet: "Yes, but they could never could have gotten us to shut up because we already controll-olololol-ed them."

Moderator Shepard: "But I can..."

The Internet: "You will debate with us, but you will lose any sense of intelligence you have."

Moderator Shepard: "But the Trolls will leave?"

The Internet: "Yes. There is another solution."

Moderator Shepard: "Yeah?"

The Internet: "Synthesis."

Moderator Shepard: "And that is?"

The Internet: "Add your computer data to the internet. Everything on your hard drive will be absorbed and then sent out onto BSN. The chain reaction will unite all of BSN into being pissed about Viruses. A new... nerd rage."

Moderator Shepard: "I... don't know."

The Internet: "Why not? Computer Viruses are already part of you; can you imagine your PC without them?"

Moderator Shepard: "And there will be... peace?"

The Internet: "The cycle will end. Synthesis is the ultimate nerd rage on BSN, but we need each other to make it happen. You have a difficult decision. Releasing the energy of the Topic will end the cycle, but it will also remove the forum rules. The paths are open -- but you have to choose."

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 03 octobre 2012 - 09:33 .


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What happens if I refuse those choices, Internet?
Will my desktop crash?
Or will the next thread solve the problem?

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masster blaster wrote...

Tell me where Serval is. " I will direct this personaly."

Please don't.

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TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Tell me where Serval is. " I will direct this personaly."

Please don't.

He already has.
Edit: The thread was locked :C .

Modifié par Restrider, 03 octobre 2012 - 09:55 .


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Restrider wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Tell me where Serval is. " I will direct this personaly."

Please don't.

He already has.

So that's why it's locked :lol:

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I was about to go tell him to bump his threads for the 30th time lol

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I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.

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Dwailing wrote...

Hey, did you see who else was there defending us? MegaSovereign! I think we can say that there are at least SOME reasonable Literalists left.


I told everyone a long time ago, that they will change, although most of you just ignored my post except for byne.

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.


To our death. Pass

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AresKeith wrote...

I was about to go tell him to bump his threads for the 30th time lol


I was about to simply post this:

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TSA_383 wrote...

Restrider wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Tell me where Serval is. " I will direct this personaly."

Please don't.

He already has.

So that's why it's locked :lol:



That kind of stupid needs to be quarantined

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masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.


To our death. Pass

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 03 octobre 2012 - 10:05 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.


To our death. Pass

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.


Synthesis does have eugenics/master race/ (german government during WWII) propaganda overtones. Why they would  suggest that is the best ending is beyond me. I can only guess and hope that they are trolling people harder than any video game developer has ever trolled before.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 03 octobre 2012 - 10:07 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.


To our death. Pass

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.

Thinking about the reapers'/starbinger's ideology and methods... there is a huge similarity to those advocating The Final Solution.

Modifié par Restrider, 03 octobre 2012 - 10:08 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.


It was a solution to a problem that didn't exist...

The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Modifié par Bill Casey, 03 octobre 2012 - 10:09 .


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Restrider wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.


To our death. Pass

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.

Thinking about the reaper's/starbinger's ideology and methods... there is a huge similarity to The Final Solution.


Whelp, now we've Godwinned the IT thread....

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Bill Casey wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.


It was a solution to a problem that didn't exist...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion


The more people know about that BS propaganda the better.

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Well doesn't the fact that it's Jessica Merizan who said synthesis would be canon or whatever mean it's pretty much guaranteed it isn't

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Bill Casey wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.


It was a solution to a problem that didn't exist...

The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

Final Solution isnt the solution to anything
The problem it claimed to solve was never a real problem

I thought my post was pretty clear on that

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spotlessvoid wrote...

Well doesn't the fact that it's Jessica Merizan who said synthesis would be canon or whatever mean it's pretty much guaranteed it isn't


It always helps for me to imagine Butters being the one doing Merizan's tweets.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Restrider wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I think we should call Synthesis - The Final Solution.


To our death. Pass

The Final Solution wasn't a good thing bro

In fact it wasn't a solution to a problem that didn't exist.

Thinking about the reaper's/starbinger's ideology and methods... there is a huge similarity to The Final Solution.


Whelp, now we've Godwinned the IT thread....

That it is wrong. Godwins Law implies that one party that is taking part at a debate would run out of arguments and then use a thought-terminating cliché comparing the other group of applying NS ideology etc.
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I read the definition and the thread was really Gowdinned. Lol.

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I don't know spot. To be honest if Synthesis is THE END they go with. I won't by ME 4 or what other ME game they make. I mean the galaxy wasn't even ready for synthesis if you think IT, and Literaly. Also I find her twitter post most surprising.

When She said no IT dlc, and the endings will stay as they are. Do you think that Bioware did plan IT then. Think about it. If IT is the ending we have right now, then it doesn't need to be changed.

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I'm out, see you.

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Statement 5 is done, I try and finish up 6 by the end of tonight, then if i get enough sleep, might finish it entirely.

For a little preview...I give you this.



So, for whatever reason, I decided to research and look into what the truly hell is the “Indoctrination Theory”. With comments of what others have said, claimed, or believe, and with watching countless hours of merely opinionated video, I have whittled it down to ten statements. Theses ten statements will be my grounds on whether or not the “Indoctrination Theory” post and idea has some validity with in game, whether it is fan based conjecture or opinions, and whether or not it should be moved to the Fan Creation of Bioware’s Social.

Now, before I get a backlash of people wanting my head or something else entirely, I will say this.

I know that there is countless comments, opinions, and possible things that could have things that are valid that could support IT that I will be leaving out. I know that. I am merely going the top 10 statements of what I feel is important. I have gone through each of theses statements with a fact based eye, and an open mind. So, don't complain that I have gone through every one of the 2000+ post on the Topic post and validated everything, cause I won't and probably never. It would take too much time.

So yes, I know there will be opinions and such I leave out, and possible things that could validate IT. I know! So don't badger me for it.

So, with that said and done, you may read.

1. Star child say that Shepard will die if you choose Destroy: Invalid
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Does this Statement support IT? No because for starters, the Star child never said anything about dying by choosing Destroy. He did say that if you choose Control or Synthesis you would, but not a word about Destroy.
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Proof

Shepard: What exactly will happen?

Star child: Your crucible device appears to be largely intact. However the effects of the blast will not be constrained to the Reapers. Technology you rely on will be affected. But those who survive should have little difficulty in repairing the damage. There will still be losses, but no more than has already been lost.

Shepard: But the Reapers will be destroyed?

Star child: Yes, but the peace won’t last. Soon your children will create synthetics and the chaos will come back.

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Overall/Assumptions: Now, we could assume Shepard was supposed to die in all possible endings. But since there is the infamous “Last Breath” scene that says otherwise, whether Shepard was to be killed off is up in the air. I say this because, with what is shown and in the endings, both Original and EC. There isn’t really enough evidence to say whether or not Shepard went up or not. Either way, its all up to what people can assume, believe and interrupt what really happened, and what could have happened.

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Modifié par MajorKellyRisner, 03 octobre 2012 - 10:17 .


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Also don't people say Synthesis is the best ending do to it's EMS, yet the breath scene is worth more EMS than Synthesis. So doesn't that make Destroy the best ending do to it's high EMS for the breath scene?