"Unfortunately: this is the result when they decide to make something "intensionally devisive" in the name of generating PR buzz.
There was no grand artistic point, as any writer who sacrafices narrative cohesion for "art" isn't writing a story anymore.
There was no grand intlelectual point, as in another thread I've detailed how the terms thrown arround weren't well defined or thought out.
There wasn't even a grand plan: since the story wasn't pre-thought out before the inception of ME1."
"lol i don't hate it i just think its rather pathetic.
it just looks like IMO that people are so upset with how the end of the story turned out that they are deluding themselves to make them believe something else entirely is going on to make themselves feel better so they don't have to continue to believe the endings were real, which is well pathetic lol
its a nice theory ^ if that wasnt part of the reasoning behind the whole theory (though they would never admit it)
lol its almost like crop circle theories (i do believe in aliens but crop circles? bah.) "
"I think that's quite untrue. I know many people on this forum that have seen various videos (Acavyos, Clevernoob etc.), write-ups, and just general theories posted on here.
To say that we don't care, and haven't put any time into understanding IT, whether it be Dream or Con, is incorrect for many of us regulars."
"I would call it sad on Bioware's part rather than pathetic on the fans'. When people are willing to dismiss the ending as "all a dream" because it's preferable to the literal interpretation, then there's something fundamentally wrong with it."
"Noone hates "IT". But many people disagree with it (including devs). "IT"ers may believe in what they want, but when they become too vocal and unreasonable in other threads, it becomes very annoying.
I think the best solution is to move all "IT" discussions to fan-fiction section of the forums. "IT" is fan-fiction, so I see no problem in that. But some particular "IT"ers' behavior is other threads is actually the very big problem. Story forum should be cleansed from "IT" once and for all. The sooner - the better. Fan-fictions should be discussed in fan-fiction section only. "
"Initially, one of the most common reasons to hate on IT was because it meant the game was incomplete. Though the concept of shipping an incomplete game had already existed before ME3 was released, and the EC confirms the game was incomplete as it exists on disk. It seems like the "incomplete" sentiment has dropped off, though. "
"Because it's probably the most intricate and convoluted pile of headcannon (crap) ever created. IT supporters are also impossible to argue with, you try to present facts and what's said in game and they respond by trying to present their imagination as fact.
You argue against their interpretations with in game facts for hours but at the end of the day you get nowhere because the only response they can reply with over and over again is "It's not true because I say so!""
"I hate IT mostly because it puts forth Destroy as the only option. I don't want to pick Destroy, the Geth are my friends.
Also, I like the moral debates that the endings in their legitimate state bring about. Is Synthesis moral? Can the Shepard-Catalyst maintain Control forever? Is the sacrifice of all synthetic life worth assurance that the Reapers can't possibly return? How will the Leviathans factor in to all of this? Once the low quality of the old endings were part-way mended, we could get thinking, and I love it. "
"I don't hate IT, I just think it's supporters are the most obnoxious people on the BSN"
"Those are pretty strong words you are using.
Me personally, I just don't care anymore about this topic. I'm on the side of Bioware in the sense that I will take whatever they give me literally, not some speculation based fan-fic ending that I'm supposed to put together by gathering clues. So no, I don't HATE IT. I just don't agree with it.
I usually just say this: IT is something I simply don't agree with. If somebody else does, then fine, you're entitled to you own opinion.
I think it's the hostile arguments that have arose surrounding this topic that made people to create labels and use such harsh language against others. "
"The IT would probably be ok if it wasn't for the people that believe it.
For example, so much people that believe the IT speak about it like it's the actual ending, when in reality it's so far from the ending that they might as well be talking about a different game. If that mentality would disappear, if an IT believer can seperate the IT from the ending in conversations about the ending and not IT, then there would be less frustration all round."
"You say this as though it makes a difference when it comes to the evidence you are submitting: It doesn't really.
Either way you are assigning meanings to things which in a real world scenario mean nothing, and in your scenario mean something BECAUSE the scenario is based on a corrupted lense as it were. By this same principal: litterally anything Shepard could possibly see could be put under the heading of "indoctrination induced".
He sees Kirby fling past the Normandy's observation deck window on a warpstar? 'Course he'd see that: he's indoctrinated."
More will be on the way.
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