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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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So maybe we all should go find quotes in the Art of War. Since Bioware knows about Sun Tzu.

That's probably pushing it. Everyone knows about Sun Tzu. Though, the reapers are cunning in their deception. I'm gonna go for now.

Goodbye. I believe I'll go for the night as well. Edit: I think we all know why this edit was made..,

Modifié par 401 Kill, 04 octobre 2012 - 02:17 .


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Okay Banshee, but would you rather have Shepard go to the river of styx, and take on the cures of achillies.

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What's going on guys? Discussing the endings?

About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

If you have any requests for me or any places you want me to check out I will endeavor to do them for y'all but I will not be able to post videos (Xbox) but I may be able to implement photos you may want.

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Tomorrow I will go back to find Nazars talk with Shepard on Virmire, and compare the things Nazars says, to what Shepard says in Control.

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Good luck MB, are you comparing all the dialogue options or just from the "investigate" topics and whatever morality dialogue you do?

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Yes I just did a TIM conversation 2 pages ago I think. I will go bring it back up.

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay I wanted to re-breaker down TIM's conversation with Shepard in ME3.


Paragon Shepard.

TIM: "The Alliance has known about the archives for more than 30 years, and what have they done with it."

Shepard: " What do you want."

TIM: " What I've always wanted. The data in these infarcts holds the key to solving the Reaper threat."

Shepard:" I've seen your solution-- your people are turned into monsters."

TIM: " Hardly. They're being improved."


Shepard: "Improved?"

TIM: " That's what separates

us Shepard: WHERE YOU SEE A MEANS TO DESTROY: I see a way to CONTROL-- to dominate and harness the Reapers power."

Okay um does this help clarify that TIM said Shepard sees " a means to DESTROY" that could imply Destroy was created out of Shepard's memories. Also during TIM's scene you can see Harbinger's face/ profile on TIM's screen. Does that tell you Harbinger is influencing TIM.


TIM: " Imagine how strong humanity would be if we controlled them."

TIM:
....You can't defeat the Reapers , EVEN WITH THE PROTHEAN DATA."

Um did he just say even if we have the data we still won't win. Crucible= trap.

Also when TIM says " Don't interfere with my plans Shepard..."

Shepard clenches his/her fist, just like TIM does when he sees Shepard in his chair.





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masster blaster wrote...

Okay Banshee, but would you rather have Shepard go to the river of styx, and take on the cures of achillies.

Maybe: "And he will find the Babylonian apiary
Of petrified books in the serpent delta of a Styx." Okay now I'm gone.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

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Shepard: Give me control of your resources, and I'll stop them.
TIM: You'd do better than most, but the odds aren't in your favour.

When has that ever stopped Shepard before?
You can't stop Saren! You can't go through the Omega-4 relay! You can't destroy the reapers!



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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

<--------------- :crying:

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Home run MF wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

<--------------- :crying:

Ah yes, you wish to save Tevos at any cost. I'm gone for real now.

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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

What's going on guys? Discussing the endings?

About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

If you have any requests for me or any places you want me to check out I will endeavor to do them for y'all but I will not be able to post videos (Xbox) but I may be able to implement photos you may want.


Be full renegade but still save the council. The new council sucks hard.

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MF I can't kill the councile because I hate the new councile more than the old. At least Sparatus was awsome in ME3. Wish he can be the one to rally the citadel defence forces, General Okerr would plan tactics, and Baily would protect the Civilians.

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byne wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

What's going on guys? Discussing the endings?

About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

If you have any requests for me or any places you want me to check out I will endeavor to do them for y'all but I will not be able to post videos (Xbox) but I may be able to implement photos you may want.


Be full renegade but still save the council. The new council sucks hard.


Worse than the old council?  How is this possible?

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I agree with byne. If you want full renegade pick Udina as Humanitys first Counciler.

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Home run MF wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

<--------------- :crying:


Remember that by letting the Council die, you're not just killing them; you're killing the Destiny Ascension's crew of 10,000 Posted Image

It's actually a Destroy vs Refuse choice in that you can choose to do nothing and let people die, or choose to act but sacrifice others.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 04 octobre 2012 - 02:33 .


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401 Kill wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...
About to start a new playthrough from ME-ME3 with a male Shep Renegon. Sacrifice Council because I have not done that yet. I cannot decide what to do with the Collector Base because of what Omega may add... I have and will be doing all DLC from Bring Down the Sky to Leviathan.

<--------------- :crying:

Ah yes, you wish to save Tevos at any cost. I'm gone for real now.


Not at any cost, the Destiny Ascension has a crew of ten thousand people too.
But it's kind of disappointing we don't see it fighting with sword, it is one of the strongest ships.

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Blurr I picked save the Councile because if we survived this. I wanted them to bow down to Paragon Shepard, and praise him for saving their #**. Also The Alliance goes save the Councile scene is just get's me everytime.

The music, and the action completes the scene well.

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I want to sacrifice the council, but save the Ascension.

I also want to kill the quarian admirals (except Tali and Koris) but not destroy the fleet.

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Well Badger I agree with you on the Quarian admirals, but the Councile I only save them because yes 10,000 crew, but Sparatus is on there, and if he dies then were f*** in ME3.

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Rifneno wrote...

I want to sacrifice the council, but save the Ascension.

I also want to kill the quarian admirals (except Tali and Koris) but not destroy the fleet.


If only Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 04 octobre 2012 - 02:39 .


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You know we have the longest post,views and we are the longest theory still running. Most of them have stoped due to the lack of ME fans, endings, close of threads, or other things that I don't know. Yet we are on Mark 3 and that has to count for something right. I say we will be on Mark 4 before this year ends.

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lol @ Seival's thread

Sorry guys, it's probably all my fault.

I was so stupid to post in the control support thread. I was only challenging his views (having no idea who he was), and I didn't mean to debate IT in there, but it unavoidably happened. Several other IT-ers joined me in the debate and it probably looked like IT-ers were trolling his thread en masse.

So that's why he thinks we're jerks.

My apologies. I learned my lesson. Spotless was right when he said this could come back to bite us in the ass.

Anyway.

What amazes me is how non IT-ers interpret Leviathan.

Leviathan is basically Bioware screaming in your face 'HAI GAYZ, REAPERS CAN MAKE ILLUSIONS FROM YOUR MEMORIES, AND THEY DO IT EVEN BETTER THAN THESE GUYS! OH AND CHECK OUT THIS LITTLE COPY OF THE DECISION CHAMBER SCENE, MAYBE THAT WILL CLUE YOU IN!

Meanwhile, literalists go 'Leviathan mentions the AI, IT IS DEAD LOLAR'.

People are ignoring the elephant in the room.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 04 octobre 2012 - 02:55 .


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I am to blame to DD, although I wanted to go even further than what you were doing. Also do you want to see a list of what non Iters say about IT?

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Nobody is to blame. That guy is nuts.