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"This video may contain content that is inappropriate for some users." Posted Image

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401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:

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Also current status of IT forum right now*

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SwobyJ wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

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401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


THIS! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/w00t.png[/smilie]!

From what I've read so far, multiplayer is getting overhauled though!I can't view that! 


Huh? You can't view it?

There is an age restriction! Please tell me what to search on YouTube.

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401 Kill wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


THIS! Posted Image!

From what I've read so far, multiplayer is getting overhauled though!I can't view that! 

Just search YT for Mass Effect 3 Retaliation. There are copies on other channels.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 

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401 Kill wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 


Watch the trailer! He's as arrogant as ever. How people can think that the Catalyst is trustworthy in any way, is beyond me now.

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Wtf is synthesis edi?

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From Left to Right: EVA Core, Synthesis EDI, Real EDI

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Also is it just me or does it look like the scion insta kill is just the end of everything. I can't even imagine your character being able to get up in the next match after that lol

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Rewatching the trailer a thought sprouted in ma mind. Why Harbinger identifies himself with the Collectors? He says "We have returned." Wasn't he present since the beginning of the war? Also, Shepard must feel completely intimidated seeing Collectors alive and kicking on Earth. The Suicide Mission turns out to have been a failure.

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SwobyJ wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 


Watch the trailer! He's as arrogant as ever. How people can think that the Catalyst is trustworthy in any way, is beyond me now.


I don't know, if you listen to Harbinger in the new trailer it's just more evidence that the reapers are misunderstood and have our best interest at heart.

Also is anyone else hearing a buzzing noise?

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*Watches trailer, smiling I say*: You know, if they recorded lines for Harbinger for that trailer, it's completely plausible to think that the voice actor also recorded lines for single player... Btw, CW E2 is coming out today right?

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401 Kill wrote...

*Watches trailer, smiling I say*: You know, if they recorded lines for Harbinger for that trailer, it's completely plausible to think that the voice actor also recorded lines for single player... Btw, CW E2 is coming out today right?

So I heard. So much win for today! Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

Rewatching the trailer a thought sprouted in ma mind. Why Harbinger identifies himself with the Collectors? He says "We have returned." Wasn't he present since the beginning of the war? Also, Shepard must feel completely intimidated seeing Collectors alive and kicking on Earth. The Suicide Mission turns out to have been a failure.

Brilliant, yet another crushing blow to Shepards mental health (assuming they will be in omega which now I believe to be completely true).

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paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

*Watches trailer, smiling I say*: You know, if they recorded lines for Harbinger for that trailer, it's completely plausible to think that the voice actor also recorded lines for single player... Btw, CW E2 is coming out today right?

So I heard. So much win for today! Posted Image


First time I am actually really excited for an MP DLC release.

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paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

*Watches trailer, smiling I say*: You know, if they recorded lines for Harbinger for that trailer, it's completely plausible to think that the voice actor also recorded lines for single player... Btw, CW E2 is coming out today right?

So I heard. So much win for today! [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]

! Now we must wait for Omega! I said October would be a great month!

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Wtf is synthesis edi?

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From Left to Right: EVA Core, Synthesis EDI, Real EDI


Wow, nice catch.

Control (morally grey Cerberus) blue

Synthesis (false paradise Reapers) green

Destroy (tough decision Shepard) red

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smokingotter1 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

*Watches trailer, smiling I say*: You know, if they recorded lines for Harbinger for that trailer, it's completely plausible to think that the voice actor also recorded lines for single player... Btw, CW E2 is coming out today right?

So I heard. So much win for today! Posted Image


First time I am actually really excited for an MP DLC release.

All the maps will feature random environmental hazards like storms, sandstorms, raining etc.

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HA! I got a response for a BW employee about mathemagician. ... Okay, he didn't really say anything except to point out what the joke was to someone, but I'm still happy.

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paxxton wrote...

Rewatching the trailer a thought sprouted in ma mind. Why Harbinger identifies himself with the Collectors? He says "We have returned." Wasn't he present since the beginning of the war? Also, Shepard must feel completely intimidated seeing Collectors alive and kicking on Earth. The Suicide Mission turns out to have been a failure.


'We' is likely the Reapers. Omega DLC will probably fit right into ME3 as the 'return of Harbinger' DLC, as if it was never not in the game. (whereas Leviathan seems more like a standalone adventure). Consider Omega DLC the Shadow Broker of ME3, while Leviathan is the Overlord of ME3.

Suicide Mission wasn't a failure. You crippled the Collectors for sure, and stopped their attacks and attempts at creating a Human Reaper.

If IT is true, Harbinger likely hoped to obtain you by the beginning of ME2 anyway :P, but other factors/factions complicated things, over and over. But yeah, Shepard himself may have been the intent for the Human Reaper, so Harbinger is like ...

"Pffft. What-ever. We're invading anyway, we still have Collector ships, and we've already invaded your mind. It's a matter of time before you fall to me and we take you in."

ME2's mission wasn't a failure, but everything in ME2 was a delaying tactic against the Reapers while the galaxy gets prepped in SOME fashion for the invasion, even if officials deny the Reaper threat.

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smokingotter1 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 


Watch the trailer! He's as arrogant as ever. How people can think that the Catalyst is trustworthy in any way, is beyond me now.


I don't know, if you listen to Harbinger in the new trailer it's just more evidence that the reapers are misunderstood and have our best interest at heart.

Also is anyone else hearing a buzzing noise?


lololololol :wizard:

Harbinger is the big bad, the real Intelligence. Why are people so blindddddddd. He's the leader, and basically has all of the OTHER Reapers indoctrinated under his heel. He's the biggest rogue AI I've seen in my life.

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yeah, how exactly would 4 mooks take down Harbinger lol


he will come instead of the evac shuttle. And insted of full extraction you'll get full ascention. :P

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Rewatching the trailer a thought sprouted in ma mind. Why Harbinger identifies himself with the Collectors? He says "We have returned." Wasn't he present since the beginning of the war? Also, Shepard must feel completely intimidated seeing Collectors alive and kicking on Earth. The Suicide Mission turns out to have been a failure.

Brilliant, yet another crushing blow to Shepards mental health (assuming they will be in omega which now I believe to be completely true).


Yes this is true, regardless of what I said about the Suicide Mission.

Everything in the pre-ending DLC plans are likely set up to put together puzzle pieces of the story for us, but on Shepard's end, just further show that he is efffffed up in the head.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a scene where Shepard freaks out a little, in private, about how the Collectors are still up to things and he was never able to completely end their/the Reapers' plans.

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SwobyJ wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 


Watch the trailer! He's as arrogant as ever. How people can think that the Catalyst is trustworthy in any way, is beyond me now.


I don't know, if you listen to Harbinger in the new trailer it's just more evidence that the reapers are misunderstood and have our best interest at heart.

Also is anyone else hearing a buzzing noise?


lololololol :wizard:

Harbinger is the big bad, the real Intelligence. Why are people so blindddddddd. He's the leader, and basically has all of the OTHER Reapers indoctrinated under his heel. He's the biggest rogue AI I've seen in my life.

I think the reason people are so "blind" is there is no definitive evidence to prove this. Imagine if we had a trial to convict Harbinger as the Catalyst. Would you really have the evidence to get people to find him guilty? I mean it's good speculation but let's refrain from talking about it like absolute fact.

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plfranke wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 


Watch the trailer! He's as arrogant as ever. How people can think that the Catalyst is trustworthy in any way, is beyond me now.


I don't know, if you listen to Harbinger in the new trailer it's just more evidence that the reapers are misunderstood and have our best interest at heart.

Also is anyone else hearing a buzzing noise?


lololololol :wizard:

Harbinger is the big bad, the real Intelligence. Why are people so blindddddddd. He's the leader, and basically has all of the OTHER Reapers indoctrinated under his heel. He's the biggest rogue AI I've seen in my life.

I think the reason people are so "blind" is there is no definitive evidence to prove this. Imagine if we had a trial to convict Harbinger as the Catalyst. Would you really have the evidence to get people to find him guilty? I mean it's good speculation but let's refrain from talking about it like absolute fact.


I've never needed definitive proof in other stories for things right in front of my face.

I guess it is my writer's mind, but this is kind of how specuation even works, in fiction.

It's like the Joker's Sister story. Even if we listen to the whole thing, I guess unless Joker himself confirms what exactly happened, in detail, there will be people that say "Nah, its just speculation. It might be Joker's sister, but we don't know."
masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Jeff_%22Joker%22_Moreau

(I believe this story was deliberate in style, by the way. Many of ME3's mini-stories are.)

It's called inference. Harbinger has 'inferred' pretty much the whole plot with ME3-Shepard since ME2-Horizon, but that still isn't enough for many people yet. I understand that, but it does make me /facepalm at this point.

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SwobyJ wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

I'm sorry, has something big happened? I just got here.


Just Harbinger... he's back. Brace yourselfs, speculations are coming....

How I imagine MP games will be when Harbinger shows up:



Harbingers back?! He's appearing in MP?! *Gets on knees and looks up: Hallelujah! 


Watch the trailer! He's as arrogant as ever. How people can think that the Catalyst is trustworthy in any way, is beyond me now.


I don't know, if you listen to Harbinger in the new trailer it's just more evidence that the reapers are misunderstood and have our best interest at heart.

Also is anyone else hearing a buzzing noise?


lololololol :wizard:

Harbinger is the big bad, the real Intelligence. Why are people so blindddddddd. He's the leader, and basically has all of the OTHER Reapers indoctrinated under his heel. He's the biggest rogue AI I've seen in my life.


Yep, I'm 100% behind the Harby = Intelligence and Other Reapers = Indoctrinated theories.