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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Found it
"Sovereign was destroyed while assuming direct control over Saren. The feedback from Saren's death seemed to entirely overload Sovereign's shields. Current Reapers do not seem to suffer from this design flaw."

What am I supposed to look at? The fact that I'm probably gonna get Eagles in every PSP from now on? :(

Yeah! The N7 guns are ultra rare now! Have you gotten any yet? Or do we need to wait for tuesday?

The Eagle is really good btw.I  have a motto: Underrated guns don't suck; you do. Posted Image Usually. No offense :) Have you ever tried it in a Destroyer kit? It's basically as good as the Typhoon...


This platform has reached a consensus, the Piranha Harrier combination for the Destroyer is the most efficient one B)
Anyway, good night everyone :)

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Well guys I am going to bed. All I know is that "Harbinger, and the Collectors are coming, and we are going to stop them."

Control/synthesis supporters " Don't you turn your back on us iters. We brought you back for more speculations.

Us/ Destroy supporters " And that's what we are going to do. We're going to win this war, and we won't sacrifce the story of ME/the characters."

Modifié par masster blaster, 05 octobre 2012 - 04:57 .


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Night home MF.

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Home run MF wrote...

This platform has reached a consensus, the Piranha Harrier PPR/GPS combination for the Destroyer is the most efficient one B)
Anyway, good night everyone :)

;)

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Home run MF wrote...

Found it
"Sovereign was destroyed while assuming direct control over Saren. The feedback from Saren's death seemed to entirely overload Sovereign's shields. Current Reapers do not seem to suffer from this design flaw."

What am I supposed to look at? The fact that I'm probably gonna get Eagles in every PSP from now on? :(


Quick thought: remember that those codex entries are written from an in-universe perspective and so aren't entirely reliable. How would the codex writers even know that? Other than Saren and the Collectors, there have been no other Reaper-possesed people at all, let alone that have been killed when we had any way of knowing what happened to the Reaper. Also, "current Reapers?" How did the Reapers suddenly correct a gigantic, (probably has) been-there-from-the-beginning weakness in less than one year?

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

This platform has reached a consensus, the Piranha Harrier PPR/GPS combination for the Destroyer is the most efficient one B)
Anyway, good night everyone :)

;)

I can't hit sh*t with the GPS off host :bandit:


@ Lokanaiya Pinnacle of evolution? Lol, I don't know but if they put it in the codex must be they observed it? There are Reapers and people on Earth.

Modifié par Home run MF, 05 octobre 2012 - 05:14 .


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Lokanaiya wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

Found it
"Sovereign was destroyed while assuming direct control over Saren. The feedback from Saren's death seemed to entirely overload Sovereign's shields. Current Reapers do not seem to suffer from this design flaw."

What am I supposed to look at? The fact that I'm probably gonna get Eagles in every PSP from now on? :(


Quick thought: remember that those codex entries are written from an in-universe perspective and so aren't entirely reliable. How would the codex writers even know that? Other than Saren and the Collectors, there have been no other Reaper-possesed people at all, let alone that have been killed when we had any way of knowing what happened to the Reaper. Also, "current Reapers?" How did the Reapers suddenly correct a gigantic, (probably has) been-there-from-the-beginning weakness in less than one year?


Maybe it was a case of not knowing.

Sovereigns case was pretty uniquie, it is after all not every cycle the Vanguard is forced to assault the Citadel. Possibly the Reapers were made aware of the flaw because of what happened to Sovereign and fixing it was a simple matter once it had been found.

Or they worked around the flaw. I saw someone suggesting that Harbinger was using the Collector General as a buffer, assuming control through him in order to avoid the backlash.

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Dwailing wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

What are you guys talking about? I won't die from a page.. I'm a specter commissioned by the IT-Council.

What could possibly be so horr..

*static*

*flatline sound*

Clear! *Shock* Come on! That page gave me a Suit Rupture, but I survived! Clear! *Shock* Just Hang in There!


Wait, defibrilators can't bring you back to life in the event of a flatline...  Darn.  He's dead, Jim.


I knew I felt a disturbance. I just hope I'm not too late.

Be healed, O Hero!

Now then. Collectors. Hell yes.

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Seems like I'm a little invisible here, let me just drop the TC and try again...

Kyrene wrote...

What is the consensus regarding a Shepard that was never part of Arrival or Project Overlord? (I never paid for any ME2 DLC, so my Shepards are all unaware of SB Liara and blameless for the Alpha Relay)

Has consensus been reached about what Shepard actually does if choosing Control and still being in front of the beam in London? Has anyone been able to flycam that area and see what's all around the beam on the left-hand side that he could be seeing/interacting with?


Anyone? I know I'm new to this thread, but **** you guys can steamroll-talk over anybody that isn't in the "IT in crowd"...or trolling you... I am neither, so therefore I possibly need to SHOUT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION PEOPLE!

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Big_Boss9 wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

LOL. Take a break. I am going to do that now.

@Prime Omega probably.

Edit: I am almost certain the missing mods will be in this DLC. NO WAY they needed to delay this long otherwise.

Well, there's this -- http://social.biowar...349614#14349630

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Look for them to come with a balance change

No ETA, but it's something.



I'm stupid. They shotgun Omni-blade is in the freaking trailer twice! Posted Image

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Kyrene wrote...

Seems like I'm a little invisible here, let me just drop the TC and try again...

Kyrene wrote...

What is the consensus regarding a Shepard that was never part of Arrival or Project Overlord? (I never paid for any ME2 DLC, so my Shepards are all unaware of SB Liara and blameless for the Alpha Relay)

Has consensus been reached about what Shepard actually does if choosing Control and still being in front of the beam in London? Has anyone been able to flycam that area and see what's all around the beam on the left-hand side that he could be seeing/interacting with?


Anyone? I know I'm new to this thread, but **** you guys can steamroll-talk over anybody that isn't in the "IT in crowd"...or trolling you... I am neither, so therefore I possibly need to SHOUT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION PEOPLE!

Others could probably explain it better than I can, in short, playthroughs without DLC are noncanon. Regardless, Arrival specifically was stated by Casey (or Mac?) to be canon, it was also confirmed to have happened ingame. Plus, it would make non sense otherwise. Strictly speaking however, IT does not require Arrival, it is simply the best and most obvious starting point for Shepard's indoctrination. The setting for ME3's overture is described as "The game begins with Shepard's incarceration due to the events of Arrival" or something along those lines. In addition to all that, Shepard being incarcerated makes little to no sense without Arrival.

TL;DR It's a non-issue; Arrival is canon.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Kyrene wrote...

Seems like I'm a little invisible here, let me just drop the TC and try again...

Kyrene wrote...

What is the consensus regarding a Shepard that was never part of Arrival or Project Overlord? (I never paid for any ME2 DLC, so my Shepards are all unaware of SB Liara and blameless for the Alpha Relay)

Has consensus been reached about what Shepard actually does if choosing Control and still being in front of the beam in London? Has anyone been able to flycam that area and see what's all around the beam on the left-hand side that he could be seeing/interacting with?


Anyone? I know I'm new to this thread, but **** you guys can steamroll-talk over anybody that isn't in the "IT in crowd"...or trolling you... I am neither, so therefore I possibly need to SHOUT TO GET YOUR ATTENTION PEOPLE!

Others could probably explain it better than I can, in short, playthroughs without DLC are noncanon. Regardless, Arrival specifically was stated by Casey (or Mac?) to be canon, it was also confirmed to have happened ingame. Plus, it would make non sense otherwise. Strictly speaking however, IT does not require Arrival, it is simply the best and most obvious starting point for Shepard's indoctrination. The setting for ME3's overture is described as "The game begins with Shepard's incarceration due to the events of Arrival" or something along those lines. In addition to all that, Shepard being incarcerated makes little to no sense without Arrival.

TL;DR It's a non-issue; Arrival is canon.


Oh and dident a comic mention the events of Arrival and Shepards involvement in the event?

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Lol Kyrene, welcome!

I don't know if there is a consensus really. I personally feel that any dlc that has significant narrative impact should be part of Shepard's story. People have different reasons for not getting those dlc, but if someone is able to get those they really should. I certainly don't think that they are any kind of prerequisite for IT, if you're wondering.

And as Banshee and Rastlin pointed out, Arrival is pretty much canon

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 05 octobre 2012 - 06:52 .


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Very late to the party but watched the Retaliation trailer. Harby, I missed you so!

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I think Blur originally posted it. Banshee, you wouldn't to know where I can find that list of crucible asset functions would ya?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Oh, and look at your manifest again. Notice anything about the N7 weapons and Collector AR?


AAAAAHHHHH!!!! WHY IS SO MUCH STUFF HAPPENING ALL IN ONE DAY? Posted Image

BY THE WAY, I JUST GOT BACK FROM A RISE AGAINST CONCERT! Posted Image

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spotlessvoid wrote...

I think Blur originally posted it. Banshee, you wouldn't to know where I can find that list of crucible asset functions would ya?


War Assets against the Crucible being a Space Battery:


What's interesting is that the one that proves it's not a battery is the one just added in Leviathan.

Asari Engineers

The graceful, soaring spires common to asari architecture look deceptively delicate. But Thessia's palaces, universities, and theaters have stood longer than most civilizations. Asari architectural engineers dispatched to the Crucible are testing the weapon's construction to make sure it can withstand tremendous amounts of pressure. If built improperly, stress could tear the Crucible in half upon activation.

Dr. Brynn Cole

Dr. Brynn Cole is an ex-Cerberus scientist who studied the technology left behind by the Collectors. She eventually cut ties with the Illusive Man, and helped dozens of scientists and their families flee the organization. The doctor has joined the Crucible Project, using the knowledge gained during her employment with Cerberus to help build the weapon.

Dr. Gavin Archer
Gavin Archer was a well-known synthetic intelligence specialist from Terra Nova who disappeared years ago to work with Cerberus. Now that he's parted ways with his former employer, Archer is among the scientists working on the Crucible. His study of VIs and AIs--in particular, the geth--gives him unique insights into parallel processing and inter-system communication that have already improved the weapon's efficiency.

Interferometric Array
Normally interferometric arrays are used to analyze planetary landmasses, or to determine the astrophysical properties of stellar systems. The powerful array salvaged from the Hercules system can be used for something much more ambitious: the Crucible tunes into the mass relays' command switches. Installing the interferometric array into the Crucible's systems results in a real-time map of the entire galaxy, including the position of each and every Reaper in the Milky Way.

Prothean Data Files

These Prothean discs were found years ago on Eden Prime, recovered a few months before the discovery of the Prothean Beacon in 2183. For years the data on the discs was incomprehensible, until the Crucible's blueprints provided the key to understanding the equations. Locked inside the discs were theories on dark matter meant to be used with the Crucible's main power source.

Dark Energy Dissertation
Published years ago by Dr. Conrad Verner, this doctorial dissertation on xenotechnology is a lengthy but intriguing argument that dark energy causes a minute but empirically observable difference in the passage of time. Hotly debated when first published, the paper's theory is supported by recent data. The dissertation illuminates several instructions left by the Protheans on how to build the Crucible. Dr. Verner found additional schematics useful in the creation of the device. After passing the data on to the Alliance, he added Commander Shepard to the dissertation's list of acknowledgements.

Shadow Broker Starship Tech

The Shadow Broker's unnamed vessel served as both a data repository and stealth ship for the enigmatic information trader. The ship ingeniously drew its power from the thunderstorms raging constantly on the planet it orbited, relying on an interlocking system of kinetic barriers, grounding rods and capacitors to avoid being ripped apart. These systems have repurposed for sections of the Crucible that require the safe discharge of tremendous amounts of energy.

Emergency Fuel Pods

The fuel pods scavenged from a field of debris in the Valhallan Threshold were once attached to a fleet of merchant vessels making long, risky journeys into uncharted space. The pods have been repurposed for the Crucible project. When activated, the Crucible's fusion reactors consume entire oceans of helium-3. The fuel pods serve as emergency reservoirs, should the weapon use more power than expected.

Advanced AI Relays

Admiral Xen's research teams salvaged advanced AI relays from the wreckage of the geth's dreadnought flagship. Xen used the valuable technology to write a custom VI that oversees the energy output of the Crucible's fusion reactors and adjusts itself automatically.

Reaper Heart

After Commander Shepard destroyed the Collector base, Cerberus spent months picking through irradiated rubble for anything useful. The human proto-Reaper the Collectors were building lay in pieces. But its incomplete core survived. The power cell would have been capable of fueling a full-fledged Reaper. After studying the device, Cerberus modified it to fuel the Illusive Man's base. Alliance engineers believe they can use the core similarly to power the Crucible.

Jovian Dissertation *Added in Leviathan*

This scientific data draws conclusions about the gas giant Isale's exceptionally powerful magnetic field, which has complex interactions with those of its moons. The mathematics used to model this complexity can provide new insight into the math of the Prothean device. A brief glance at the data hints at some kind of energetic pulse that might pass through the magnetosphere of a planet unimpeded, but any details are best derived by high-energy physicists.

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 05 octobre 2012 - 07:11 .


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Thank you

If the crucible just disables Reaper shields that could make for an incredible endgame sequence

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 05 octobre 2012 - 07:27 .


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BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Oh, and look at your manifest again. Notice anything about the N7 weapons and Collector AR?


AAAAAHHHHH!!!! WHY IS SO MUCH STUFF HAPPENING ALL IN ONE DAY? Posted Image

BY THE WAY, I JUST GOT BACK FROM A RISE AGAINST CONCERT! Posted Image


What's this manifest people keep mentioning?

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spotlessvoid wrote...

If the crucible just disables Reaper shields that could make for an incredible endgame sequence

Hits 'em all with the feedback sovereign felt? That fits into the universe WAY better than the reveal they were all alergic to red light.

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Oh, and look at your manifest again. Notice anything about the N7 weapons and Collector AR?


AAAAAHHHHH!!!! WHY IS SO MUCH STUFF HAPPENING ALL IN ONE DAY? Posted Image

BY THE WAY, I JUST GOT BACK FROM A RISE AGAINST CONCERT! Posted Image


What's this manifest people keep mentioning?


Your MP Manifest, thing that tells you all the stuff you have. What's interesting is that the four weekend N7 guns have been moved to UR, and the Collector Rifle to Rare. Their cards were always that colour, but now there's no more "Promo" section Posted Image

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Oh the manifest! alright cool.

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 So am I the only one that is excited  about the Harby voice actor doing the voice for the Retaliation DLC. Surely they didn't bring him in for just some multiplayer voice work if you know what I'm saying ;)

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The thread is in FTL mode. Almst 20 pages since I was last here. Has Choose Wisely Ep.2 been released?

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paxxton wrote...

The thread is in FTL mode. Almst 20 pages since I was last here. Has Choose Wisely Ep.2 been released?


Well I can't find it on youtube if it is:crying: