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demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

 Also I remember hearing the Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine line after playing ME3, I was mind blown... 
Everyone saying this wasn't planned need to pay more attention.


when and where is this line?

Arrival. When fighting the hoardes of the Project Object Rho sends that line on air.


I thought so... But why after ME3? arrival is before..... And yes....that final stand fight.... what memories....That was epic!


You play Arrival after ME3, why? Because in the end Shepard is supposed to talk to Harbinger... not Harbinger/Collector General... that's just lame to me.

Same with Shadow Broker, there was an interview where the writers said that a lot of the writing was supposed to fit better if you already completed the suicide mission.

Sorry for the late reply guys, I was at the gym.:happy:have to keep my buff body up....actually I need to lose weight.:unsure:

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paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

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smokingotter1 wrote...

demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

 Also I remember hearing the Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine line after playing ME3, I was mind blown... 
Everyone saying this wasn't planned need to pay more attention.


when and where is this line?

Arrival. When fighting the hoardes of the Project Object Rho sends that line on air.


I thought so... But why after ME3? arrival is before..... And yes....that final stand fight.... what memories....That was epic!


You play Arrival after ME3, why? Because in the end Shepard is supposed to talk to Harbinger... not Harbinger/Collector General... that's just lame to me.

Same with Shadow Broker, there was an interview where the writers said that a lot of the writing was supposed to fit better if you already completed the suicide mission.

Sorry for the late reply guys, I was at the gym.:happy:have to keep my buff body up....actually I need to lose weight.:unsure:


maybe you should stop smoking...

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Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

Aren't BroShep and FemShep technically like siblings? Posted Image jk

Modifié par paxxton, 03 août 2012 - 01:35 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

smokingotter1 wrote...

demersel wrote...

paxxton wrote...

demersel wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

 Also I remember hearing the Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine line after playing ME3, I was mind blown... 
Everyone saying this wasn't planned need to pay more attention.


when and where is this line?

Arrival. When fighting the hoardes of the Project Object Rho sends that line on air.


I thought so... But why after ME3? arrival is before..... And yes....that final stand fight.... what memories....That was epic!


You play Arrival after ME3, why? Because in the end Shepard is supposed to talk to Harbinger... not Harbinger/Collector General... that's just lame to me.

Same with Shadow Broker, there was an interview where the writers said that a lot of the writing was supposed to fit better if you already completed the suicide mission.

Sorry for the late reply guys, I was at the gym.:happy:have to keep my buff body up....actually I need to lose weight.:unsure:


maybe you should stop smoking...


Hey smoking works great for Matthew McConaughey.

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paxxton wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

Aren't BroShep and FemShep technically like siblings? Posted Image jk


Not if they have different backgrounds!

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

Aren't BroShep and FemShep technically like siblings? Posted Image jk


Not if they have different backgrounds!

That's why I said like. They are siblings separated by parallel universes. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 03 août 2012 - 01:39 .


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So...ignoring the conversation about incest going on, anything new? :P

What's everyone think about the latest news on Leviathan? If you could really call it news, since we already knew...

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paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

Aren't BroShep and FemShep technically like siblings? Posted Image jk


Not if they have different backgrounds!

That's why I said like. They are siblings separated by parallel universes.


Nah, an Earthborn Shepard and a Spacer Shep wouldnt even be related.

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DrTsoni wrote...

So...ignoring the conversation about incest going on, anything new? :P

What's everyone think about the latest news on Leviathan? If you could really call it news, since we already knew...

I'm super excited and can't wait for it. Shame, they didn't tell us when exactly the DLC is released.

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I've noticed the possibility that even in the Destroy ending, the Reapers' driving force isn't really defeated. Main reason: the indoctrination effects of Reaper technology. I've been assuming that the Crucible (as it fires in a literal interpretation) would deactivate the indoc capabilities of Reaper tech along with the Reapers in the Destroy scenario. But...what if it doesn't? Indoctrination is very much quite possible in Control and Synthesis but if it still functions in Destroy...we may see many people seeking to rebuild Reaper-like ships to bolster their fleets defenses. And then the cycle could begin again.

When I look at things literally, I'm going to go off of the belief that the Destroy ending does disable indoctrination but if it doesn't...the galaxy may truly face an immortal enemy with the Reapers. They become more than an armada: they become an idea


The biggest problem I see with the literal control and synthesis endings (other than me not trusting Catalyst!Shep and Synthesis being ridiculous) is that the Reapers still exist.

Can they just turn off their indoctrination ability?

I dont buy the idea that everyone would so willingly work with the Reapers after the war. Seems like everyone gets indoctrinated in the literal Control and Synthesis endings.


Yes, that's a concern for me as well in the literal view of things.  But a possible concern might still exist in Destroy, as even dead Reapers have been shown to indoctrinate things. Can the Crucible shut that down?

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

Aren't BroShep and FemShep technically like siblings? Posted Image jk


Not if they have different backgrounds!

That's why I said like. They are siblings separated by parallel universes.


Nah, an Earthborn Shepard and a Spacer Shep wouldnt even be related.


Ahh, but what if in the Earthborn reality, Hannah Shepard merely never chose to enlist?

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Home run MF wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Also, Shepard after being hit by Object Rho develops Multiple Personality Syndrome..
http://www.youtube.c...n_ZhwJWE#t=428s


Yes, femshep and dudeshep that's why the catalyst has two echoes. They finally met and have blue children thanks to space magic. Happy ending :devil:

Aren't BroShep and FemShep technically like siblings? Posted Image jk


Not if they have different backgrounds!

That's why I said like. They are siblings separated by parallel universes.


Nah, an Earthborn Shepard and a Spacer Shep wouldnt even be related.

Depends on which 2 parallel universes you consider. Shepard can even be a yagh in one and Earthborn in another and still those are quantum possibilities of the same Shepard. lol

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paxxton wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

So...ignoring the conversation about incest going on, anything new? :P

What's everyone think about the latest news on Leviathan? If you could really call it news, since we already knew...

I'm super excited and can't wait for it. Shame, they didn't tell us when exactly the DLC is released.


Yeah, I was hoping they'd tell us when, too. I'm actually looking forward to the weapons, too. I never actually buy weapon packs, but if they're pre-nerf MP weapons and the Harrier is one of them (and maybe the Typhoon/Pirhana)...yes, please!

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TheConstantOne wrote...

byne wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

I've noticed the possibility that even in the Destroy ending, the Reapers' driving force isn't really defeated. Main reason: the indoctrination effects of Reaper technology. I've been assuming that the Crucible (as it fires in a literal interpretation) would deactivate the indoc capabilities of Reaper tech along with the Reapers in the Destroy scenario. But...what if it doesn't? Indoctrination is very much quite possible in Control and Synthesis but if it still functions in Destroy...we may see many people seeking to rebuild Reaper-like ships to bolster their fleets defenses. And then the cycle could begin again.

When I look at things literally, I'm going to go off of the belief that the Destroy ending does disable indoctrination but if it doesn't...the galaxy may truly face an immortal enemy with the Reapers. They become more than an armada: they become an idea


The biggest problem I see with the literal control and synthesis endings (other than me not trusting Catalyst!Shep and Synthesis being ridiculous) is that the Reapers still exist.

Can they just turn off their indoctrination ability?

I dont buy the idea that everyone would so willingly work with the Reapers after the war. Seems like everyone gets indoctrinated in the literal Control and Synthesis endings.


Yes, that's a concern for me as well in the literal view of things.  But a possible concern might still exist in Destroy, as even dead Reapers have been shown to indoctrinate things. Can the Crucible shut that down?


The derelict reaper indoctrinated the cerberus team because its mass effect core was still active.

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DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

So...ignoring the conversation about incest going on, anything new? :P

What's everyone think about the latest news on Leviathan? If you could really call it news, since we already knew...

I'm super excited and can't wait for it. Shame, they didn't tell us when exactly the DLC is released.


Yeah, I was hoping they'd tell us when, too. I'm actually looking forward to the weapons, too. I never actually buy weapon packs, but if they're pre-nerf MP weapons and the Harrier is one of them (and maybe the Typhoon/Pirhana)...yes, please!

I only want the N7 hoodie. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

So...ignoring the conversation about incest going on, anything new? :P

What's everyone think about the latest news on Leviathan? If you could really call it news, since we already knew...

I'm super excited and can't wait for it. Shame, they didn't tell us when exactly the DLC is released.


Yeah, I was hoping they'd tell us when, too. I'm actually looking forward to the weapons, too. I never actually buy weapon packs, but if they're pre-nerf MP weapons and the Harrier is one of them (and maybe the Typhoon/Pirhana)...yes, please!

I only want the N7 hoodie. Posted Image


Wait, what? I thought that was just from the N7 Collector's Edition...thing :huh: That's how I got it, anyway.

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DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I only want the N7 hoodie. Posted Image


Wait, what? I thought that was just from the N7 Collector's Edition...thing :huh: That's how I got it, anyway.


It is.

I think Paxxton is just saying he wants it. I dont think he actually thinks he's getting it.

If he does, he's in for a disappointment.

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paxxton

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DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

So...ignoring the conversation about incest going on, anything new? :P

What's everyone think about the latest news on Leviathan? If you could really call it news, since we already knew...

I'm super excited and can't wait for it. Shame, they didn't tell us when exactly the DLC is released.


Yeah, I was hoping they'd tell us when, too. I'm actually looking forward to the weapons, too. I never actually buy weapon packs, but if they're pre-nerf MP weapons and the Harrier is one of them (and maybe the Typhoon/Pirhana)...yes, please!

I only want the N7 hoodie. Posted Image


Wait, what? I thought that was just from the N7 Collector's Edition...thing :huh: That's how I got it, anyway.

Yes, but I want BioWare to release an outfits pack with the hoodie. Instead they release a weapons pack.

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Home run MF wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

byne wrote...

TheConstantOne wrote...

I've noticed the possibility that even in the Destroy ending, the Reapers' driving force isn't really defeated. Main reason: the indoctrination effects of Reaper technology. I've been assuming that the Crucible (as it fires in a literal interpretation) would deactivate the indoc capabilities of Reaper tech along with the Reapers in the Destroy scenario. But...what if it doesn't? Indoctrination is very much quite possible in Control and Synthesis but if it still functions in Destroy...we may see many people seeking to rebuild Reaper-like ships to bolster their fleets defenses. And then the cycle could begin again.

When I look at things literally, I'm going to go off of the belief that the Destroy ending does disable indoctrination but if it doesn't...the galaxy may truly face an immortal enemy with the Reapers. They become more than an armada: they become an idea


The biggest problem I see with the literal control and synthesis endings (other than me not trusting Catalyst!Shep and Synthesis being ridiculous) is that the Reapers still exist.

Can they just turn off their indoctrination ability?

I dont buy the idea that everyone would so willingly work with the Reapers after the war. Seems like everyone gets indoctrinated in the literal Control and Synthesis endings.


Yes, that's a concern for me as well in the literal view of things.  But a possible concern might still exist in Destroy, as even dead Reapers have been shown to indoctrinate things. Can the Crucible shut that down?


The derelict reaper indoctrinated the cerberus team because its mass effect core was still active.


This is a good catch.  The mass effect cores should be deactivated in Destroy.  The fleets are still active but their cores likely didn't take as much damage because they weren't part of synthetic intelligences

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paxxton wrote...

Yes, but I want BioWare to release an outfits pack with the hoodie. Instead they release a weapons pack.


They're not gonna give you CE stuff.

If you wanted it, you should have bought the CE.

I cant imagine if I hadnt gotten the CE. I hate every casual outfit other than the hoodie.

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byne wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I only want the N7 hoodie. Posted Image


Wait, what? I thought that was just from the N7 Collector's Edition...thing :huh: That's how I got it, anyway.


It is.

I think Paxxton is just saying he wants it. I dont think he actually thinks he's getting it.

If he does, he's in for a disappointment.


If you're on PC there is an easy way to get it.

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 I feel this was skipped over in the Leviathan news storm, but my official thread for WNT has been up on the forum for the last few hours. (In signature) Feel free to pop in and speculate!!!

http://social.biowar.../index/13474338

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 03 août 2012 - 01:54 .


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So what have I missed guys, and Lady's?

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Yes, but I want BioWare to release an outfits pack with the hoodie. Instead they release a weapons pack.


They're not gonna give you CE stuff.

If you wanted it, you should have bought the CE.

I cant imagine if I hadnt gotten the CE. I hate every casual outfit other than the hoodie.


I adore the hoodie but I didn't mind the default (the first option, not the one Shep wears on Earth...though that's okay too). I just wish FemShep had gotten that leather jacket that DudeShep gets instead of the hideous abomination of clothing dress <_<