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[NebuchadnezzaRT]

I'm not sure if I want to even think about buying ME4..... With the Doctors gone and that other guy who just left :/

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Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:04 .

[spotlessvoid]

munnellyladt wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Yeah I don't like "if it makes more money make more sequels"thing either,but did they confirm if it was a sequel or a prequel?
Because I would have no intrest in playing a prequel in the mass effect universe,and with the endings as they are,it would be impossible for bioware to make the game as a sequel.
It would be like 3 different games.

They haven't confirmed prequel or sequel. But logically, a sequel ( or a story set within the timeline of ME3) would sell better because a prequel would be Mass Effect: Titanic. We'll already know how it ends.

But seriously,how the hell can they pull it off if the endings are remaining the same.
There's so much to account for in a sequel unless there is only one ending or two endings that are simular.

They can't do it w/o retcon or ignoring choices. Course in IT, your choice always matters. You chose to get indoctrinated lol, so no importing your indoctrinated Shepard (imagine the dialogue choices for husk Shepard "Raaaawwwwrrrr" ") but if you have got the breath scene.....then its still go time. New protagonist or not

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Haha Anyone else see what they did there?
post from the Mass Effect Facebook page:

 "The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?"

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

Modifié par NebuchadnezzaRT, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:12 .

[spotlessvoid]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Haha Anyone else see what they did there?
post from the Mass Effect Facebook page:

 "The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?"

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

[HellishFiend]

demersel wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...
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Hellish, just one thing.  I really respect yours and TJ's effort. But I do get the feeling that both  of you were to quick to get fixed on one idea. You saw something that looks like it could fit, and then started to fit all of the clues to it 9while most of them do indeed fit) - there are more DLCs coming and they may contain something you did not acccount for. Really it is a possibility. (so what i'm saying while you got most of the crime deduced right you just were to quick to accused the first suspect you came across - it may be someone else entirely, something we have not yet seen and met)

Quick, huh? I shudder to think what your idea of patient and thorough is. Anyway, why are you talking about additional DLC and information yet to be released when you havent even made the effort to get all the information from sources that are already available (comics & books)?

[CmdrShep80]

munnellyladt wrote...

But seriously,how the hell can they pull it off if the endings are remaining the same.
There's so much to account for in a sequel unless there is only one ending or two endings that are simular.

They can if the ending and some part of priority earth didn't happen. If it was all in Shepard's head, they could literally start right at the retreat from Harbinger showing a battered Shepard on a stretcher being pulled back with the same lines of orders being issued about the fall back. Subsequent scenes could have another abandoning of Earth scenario just more painful and losses at this point based on one of the 4 endings you chose with them having realized the citadel at Earth was nothing more than a decoy or just some Reaper capital ship there to suck everyone up and convert them to become Reapers. (Remember what Vigil said the citadel's purpose was, to manage the mass relays). 
Depending on your choices and assets you could end up with only so much intact fleet. Depending on your choices you could start with Shepard ala Ashley or Shepard ala Thane in the sickbay i.e. half alive or half dead. The first mission could be to save Shepard's life from indoctrination. So far I think only Benicia was the only one I can think of who survived indoctrination to some degree?
The overall goal initially could be to protect the escaping crucible and eventually go for the real citadel but using the properties of the mass relay effect as a way to drop the reaper shields (i like that idea btw) Which by then some sprinkle of space magic meets a conventional but bloody victory. 

Throughout would be the usual mass effect game experiences.  Though the more things you do, the more chances you have a system on your galaxy map go dark the people either converted, scattered, or just plain dead. The only ones would be those deemed not technologically advanced (say the volus or the vorcha or some other minor races we've seen interacted with) And the darkness spreading speed would depend on a ton of your choices over the past 3 games.  So paragons would get to see more of the galaxy but also if they keep it up lose more systems. While renegades would be opposite. Start with less but have more chances to reach what's left. The last systems to go dark could be the ones that survived mostly intact in ME3 like rannoch, tu'chanca (sic), etc
All the while Shepard goes in and out of delusional missions/battles within reality that the outcomes could cause lost time versus lost Shepard. (Think of the ME2 Shepard with the not fully healed face) because he ends up fighting indoctrination till the end when he's either healed or converted. His healing would depend on your choices (for all those who wants a living Shepard) and a converted would just be a worst ending kind of line the Borg assimilating a ship ending
Some of what I just thought of was based on "The darkness cannot be breached" line along with a few other things along with my own thoughts about what reality is if Shepard really is indoctrinated. 

[DoomsdayDevice]

RELINQUISH YOUR FORUM TO US

[munnellyladt]

spotlessvoid wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Haha Anyone else see what they did there?
post from the Mass Effect Facebook page:

 "The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?"

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

I want one.....wait I didn't say that......

[CmdrShep80]

PS the space magic I mentioned is the crucible docking with the citadel some buttons being pushed lights fireworks etc then loss of kinetic barriers on reaper ships. They aren't dead just easier to engage. But can still fight.

[CmdrShep80]

munnellyladt wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Haha Anyone else see what they did there?
post from the Mass Effect Facebook page:

 "The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?"

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

I want one.....wait I didn't say that......

i know I want one too. I've been picking up these replicas since the Normandy SR2 came out. I can't wait to get my fighter replica.  I kind of want a Quarian and Turian dreadnaught would be cool to have. I also want a case like Shepard. I wonder if I'll be allowed to tear part of my wall down for these. Though then I'll start getting fish LOL

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 06 octobre 2012 - 12:39 .

[spotlessvoid]

Many of us have often repeated this:

Crucible cannot have been invented without someone thinking up the original concept. You don't tinker with a toaster until it's a television. You can make improvements to components and build something only by following directions while having no idea what something does. But sometime absolutely had to have an original concept in place and somewhat fleshed out.

If organics made it and handed down blue prints, it's inconceivable that neither the Reapers or Leviathan have any clue to it's function, since the Reapers themselves admit they know of the design plans since they admit to destroying the evidence of those plans.

if the crucible isn't a trap, it's possible it's the Leviathan who designed it as a tool to destroy the Reapers, but why lie?
I could understand feigning ignorance to not draw attention to themselves from the Reapers, but they have gotten involved in the war so it's not like they're in hiding at that point.

If it is a trap then it's probably a Reaper creation, but then there probably isn't a way to beat them so then what? Also, why not just let Shepard fire it? It's not like he knows what happens if he pushed "on." There's no need to even bother giving more than one option. The galaxy is committed to activating it, so there is no need to trick Shepard

Can't figure this out

Also,

[spotlessvoid]

CmdrShep80 wrote...

PS the space magic I mentioned is the crucible docking with the citadel some buttons being pushed lights fireworks etc then loss of kinetic barriers on reaper ships. They aren't dead just easier to engage. But can still fight.

That wouldn't really be space magic if it just disabled Reaper Shields. It could be pretty scientifically (in universe) explained

[CmdrShep80]

spotlessvoid wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...

PS the space magic I mentioned is the crucible docking with the citadel some buttons being pushed lights fireworks etc then loss of kinetic barriers on reaper ships. They aren't dead just easier to engage. But can still fight.

That wouldn't really be space magic if it just disabled Reaper Shields. It could be pretty scientifically (in universe) explained

Lol I just didn't want someone to go "argh space magic again!  That'd be just like last time."  Since I didn't think through yet how the unknown tech of the crucible can interact with the largely unexplainable citadel and harness the little unknown properties behind the mass relay(s) itself and send out some signal/pulse through the relays not like the ME3 one but different and drop kinetic barriers which we all know what happens when that happens, we shoot lol I just called this whole thing space magic to be easier to say. 

[masster blaster]

You know after playing Leviathan again, I can't believe I missed the details of Nazars piece of it'self looks like the cables in Destroy, and in Control.

Wish I had a picture, but I don't.


Also From what I was getting from Leviathan, it seems it wasn't the Reapers that made the rachni go to war, it was the Leviathans.


Also Indoctrination can last forever, unless you Destroy the SOURCE.


Think about it. When Leviathan Destroyed it's own artifact eveyone regained their minds, and woked up 10 years later.

What is Shepard doing in Destroy. Could he be SHOOTING at an artifact " The Conduit" that is causing Shepard to feel Indoctrination, and start the final test.

Also Doesn't Nazars part in Bysons lab remind you of how the Conduit looks like.

[spotlessvoid]

Off topic, but never seen this before and thought it was amusing

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Haha I like the one where it's basically the same thing except there are other Reapers around Harbinger and he is going "Ah yes, Shepard..."

And masster I see a part of a Reaper, little funny leg thing.

[masster blaster]

Ya that little leg thing is from " I am the vanguard of your ownn Destruction."

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

masster blaster wrote...

Ya that little leg thing is from " I am the vanguard of your ownn Destruction."

Wait what?
Sorry you mean Sovereign/Nazara right? Haha that's one of his quotes?
So what are you saying about it?

[masster blaster]

You know I have been thinking. If they were to ever say IT is no more, I mean Bioware, then there will be nothing left to protect them.

Yes you have the people that like the endings, yet you got the trolls that will tare them arpart.

We are Bioware's final act, and last wall of defence. If IT goes, then Bioware goes. It's plan as that.

Also I do wonder what would have happen if IT was never born, or Disproven in March?

[HiddenInWar]

So is clevernoobs DLC Project X leak legit?

It would make sense considering it would be the last DLC...

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

HiddenInWar wrote...

So is clevernoobs DLC Project X leak legit?

It would make sense considering it would be the last DLC...

It is impossible to tell now. Retaliation was leaked earlier on reddit... CleverNoob, I believe, is probably wrong, but who knows??

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Also Indoctrination can last forever, unless you Destroy the SOURCE.

This is in no way true. Rana Thanoptis was indoctrinated by Sovereign, and continued to be so after its destruction.

[masster blaster]

It has the same cables in the Destroy tube. If I only had a picture of the tube, and Nazars leg tube, they look the same.

Also um did any of you take a look at the war assets you get in Leviathan. The Dimonheatslugs are for ground forces, and space forecs. We get new fighters that have lasers.
We get Vorcha team, and if you go to Illuim you het liquid assets.
More money.

My question is why add more assets if the endings are as they are. Why give us more assets that improve our chances against the Reapers, if we can't beat them in a head on assult. Why keep making dlc if ME3 is done. Yes to make money people say, but there is no point.


If the endings are as the are, the no more dlc's should be made, and no more assets as well.

[spotlessvoid]

HiddenInWar wrote...

So is clevernoobs DLC Project X leak legit?

It would make sense considering it would be the last DLC...

Well it makes sense it's the last dlc and project x is a sufficiently cryptic name...but anyone could easily make that up...so no way to know at this point

[masster blaster]

Well I forgot to say Leviathan could only Control the Indoctrinated people with the orbs, yet the Reapers don't, unless they have them built into their systems.


Also byne if you think about it there are only two enemys that can be Indoctrinating Shepard at the end.

Leviathan, or Harbinger.