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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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NebuchadnezzaRT

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So how is IT celebrating N7 Day? Assuming (Control) there are no big announcements that is...

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GUYS!

Harbinger, in the Retaliation trailer:

"They will SUCCUMB and ASCEND, or they will be ANNIHILATED"

Control / Synthesis / Destroy

Could it be true?

We lose, no matter what?

The Reapers told us all along: it is inevitable.

Could it really be?

No matter what we choose, we end up in the 'Reaper Matrix'?

Could that be the real meaning of the story?

Shepard ends up indoctrinated, no matter what we choose?
It is the end of days? Humanity, and the counil races are done for?

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 06 octobre 2012 - 04:45 .


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NebuchadnezzaRT

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Huh good catch DD, never thought of that..

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Even if it doesn't mean we lose, no matter what, we can now be sure:

Control = succumb
Synthesis = 'ascend'

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NebuchadnezzaRT

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So there are parallels between the ending/decision chamber and Harbinger's dialogue, Mass Effect 3 dialogue

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It's just so damn clear now.

Anyone still believing the kid isn't Harbinger, well...

Bioware is just giving it away in the freaking multiplayer trailer, for crying out loud!

I mean it doesn't prove IT, but Jesus, this is just Bioware screaming in our faces: "DON'T YOU SEE?"

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 06 octobre 2012 - 04:53 .


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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Even if it doesn't mean we lose, no matter what, we can now be sure:

Control = succumb
Synthesis = 'ascend'

Crap! I was just about to post that! Great minds think alike I guess. Good job! Posted Image

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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

It's just so damn clear now.

Anyone still believing the kid isn't Harbinger, well...

Bioware is just giving it away in the freaking multiplayer trailer, for crying out loud!

I mean it doesn't prove IT, but Jesus, this is just Bioware screaming in our faces: "DON'T YOU SEE?"

Not only that, but this trailer really brought the old feeling of the reapers back for me. Reminded me once again why we need to destroy them.

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I still think they might be lying to us about no Harby dialogue in MP just so they can scare the sh*t out of with it on Tuesday Posted Image

Oh hey Banshee, I should be home around 13:00 tomorrow Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 06 octobre 2012 - 04:57 .


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I hope they are lying to us BlUr that would be sweeet

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Retaliation trailer proves IT!  :wizard:

:o

I'm off to bed. Things are looking GREAT for IT! :D

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BleedingUranium wrote...

I still think they might be lying to us about no Harby dialogue in MP just so they can scare the sh*t out of with it on Tuesday Posted Image

Oh hey Banshee, I should be home around 13:00 tomorrow Posted Image

Okay! How was the concert? Oh, and I agree. I just watched the trailer twice in a row just looking at the ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL OF collectors and I find it extremely unlikely that Harby doesn't do that. The full biotic effect just like ME2, and the glowing yellow cracks disappear immediately upon death. RELEASING CONTROL. Plus, there are suspiciously few enemy types for Collectors. Harbinger, however, would fix this issue.

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Night DD, I'm signing off too guys Adios! :D

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Well I think In Destroy Shepard may end up Indoctrinated, but I think Shepard will do more damage before him/she, and the whole galaxy go down fighting.

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Banshee, or maybe Refuse/Reject= Annihialated

Think about it Destroy we continue to fight, but in refuse/reject we will be Annihialated.

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masster blaster wrote...

Banshee, or maybe Refuse/Reject= Annihialated

Think about it Destroy we continue to fight, but in refuse/reject we will be Annihialated.

You bring up a good point MB. We present Harbinger with the 4th solution: Keep fighting!

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Oh Banshee, or anyone did any of you notice the Thorian was in Braysons lab on the Citadel. EDI told Shepard that they were studing the Thoiran to what the Leviathan's can do.

Also it looks like it was the Leviathans that started the Rachni wars. Braysons was saying that The rachni didn't have Reaper tech in them, but maybe from what the Leviathans can do, they did to the Rachni.

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masster blaster wrote...

Oh Banshee, or anyone did any of you notice the Thorian was in Braysons lab on the Citadel. EDI told Shepard that they were studing the Thoiran to what the Leviathan's can do.

Also it looks like it was the Leviathans that started the Rachni wars. Braysons was saying that The rachni didn't have Reaper tech in them, but maybe from what the Leviathans can do, they did to the Rachni.

Studying the Thorian makes sense. There is still more evidence for the reapers indoctrinating the Rachni though.

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True, but I want to do more studing in Braysons lab. There are things there that still haven't been talked about, and the chats that you have with EDI, are interesting.

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masster blaster wrote...

True, but I want to do more studing in Braysons lab. There are things there that still haven't been talked about, and the chats that you have with EDI, are interesting.

You know, I only played Leviathan once. I should play it again. Unfortunately, MP DLC Posted Image

My favourite thing in Bryson's lab: in.ctrn8 Posted Image

Bioware are either Master Trolls, or IT is right. Goodnight MB. Posted Image

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You know Banshee it just hit me. If Bioware keeps adding war assets to the game, then what's the point. The endings are as they are right, so why do we need more assets? We have enough assets already in the game, and from MP, or do we. Maybe Bioware is planing IT, Conventinal victory, and some other theory, or thing that Bioware hasn't told us yet.

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Night then Banshee. Dam the one time of the week I stay up late, and everyones going to sleep. I guess I can create a long list of things about IT.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I still think they might be lying to us about no Harby dialogue in MP just so they can scare the sh*t out of with it on Tuesday Posted Image

Oh hey Banshee, I should be home around 13:00 tomorrow Posted Image

Okay! How was the concert? Oh, and I agree. I just watched the trailer twice in a row just looking at the ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL OF collectors and I find it extremely unlikely that Harby doesn't do that. The full biotic effect just like ME2, and the glowing yellow cracks disappear immediately upon death. RELEASING CONTROL. Plus, there are suspiciously few enemy types for Collectors. Harbinger, however, would fix this issue.


Concert was awesome! Posted Image

You misunderstood, the ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL mechanic is present in MP, no question about that. What BW said is that Harby won't be speaking in MP.

Also, did you notice that Harby can now ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL over Scions? Posted Image

And Praetorians? Posted Image

Oh, and Praetorians stab you with four seperate blades to hold you up while they bite your head off Posted Image

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 06 octobre 2012 - 05:37 .


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DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Even if it doesn't mean we lose, no matter what, we can now be sure:

Control = succumb
Synthesis = 'ascend'


Their was foreshadowing in your final confrontation with Saren

"You could have fought" Destroy
"You could have resisted" Control
"Instead you surrendered" Synthesis
"You quit" Refuse

"I'd rather die than live like that"..... and you do die, unless you have a high EMS.

Modifié par smokingotter1, 06 octobre 2012 - 05:37 .


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Blurr I think Harbinger also takes over the abominations too. When the husk got onto the Vorcha it's face begain to glow white light.