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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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smokingotter1 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Even if it doesn't mean we lose, no matter what, we can now be sure:

Control = succumb
Synthesis = 'ascend'


Their was foreshadowing in your final confrontation with Saren

"You could have fought" Destroy
"You could have resisted" Control
"Instead you surrendered" Synthesis
"You quit" Refuse

"I'd rather die than live like that"..... and you do die, unless you have a high EMS.


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masster blaster wrote...

Blurr I think Harbinger also takes over the abominations too. When the husk got onto the Vorcha it's face begain to glow white light.


Maybe, I figured it was about to explode though. I bet they jump on you like normal husks, then explode. Should be... interesting Posted Image

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Goodone smoking Otter, and DD, but you forgot

Refuse/reject= Annihialated

Destroy= Keep fighting/ stick it to Harbinger, and the Reapers.

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BleedingUranium wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I still think they might be lying to us about no Harby dialogue in MP just so they can scare the sh*t out of with it on Tuesday Posted Image

Oh hey Banshee, I should be home around 13:00 tomorrow Posted Image

Okay! How was the concert? Oh, and I agree. I just watched the trailer twice in a row just looking at the ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL OF collectors and I find it extremely unlikely that Harby doesn't do that. The full biotic effect just like ME2, and the glowing yellow cracks disappear immediately upon death. RELEASING CONTROL. Plus, there are suspiciously few enemy types for Collectors. Harbinger, however, would fix this issue.


Concert was awesome! Posted Image

You misunderstood, the ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL mechanic is present in MP, no question about that. What BW said is that Harby won't be speaking in MP.

Also, did you notice that Harby can now ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL over Scions? Posted Image

And Praetorians? Posted Image

Oh, and Praetorians stab you with four seperate blades to hold you up while they bite your head off Posted Image

It's ok! Space magic heals you after you defeat the current wave of enemies! Did I miss that they confirmed ADC over collectors in MP? Because it makes absolutely zero sense to not have Harby lines at the same time... Especially since they could even reuse ME2 lines.

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Not sure if this was mentioned already but it made me think of you guys. From the official ME Facebook page:

The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html



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Well if the leaked dlc are true, then this is the LAST MP dlc, but I don't know. They can always add more places/weapons/characters.

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Oh, and is anyone going to the Bioware NYCC ?

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leonia42 wrote...

Not sure if this was mentioned already but it made me think of you guys. From the official ME Facebook page:

The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

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That's awesome! And this confirms that Bioware is getting indoctrinated! RUN!

Nice new avatar by the way! Posted Image

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Ya Leon we saw that earlier, but thanks for reminding me, okay I am going to check the Synthesis, and Control threads. Be back in 5 minutes. ( don't worry I am only going to check, not debate.)

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masster blaster wrote...

Ya Leon we saw that earlier, but thanks for reminding me, okay I am going to check the Synthesis, and Control threads. Be back in 5 minutes. ( don't worry I am only going to check, not debate.)

Well I never saw it earlier, so thanks! Goodnight now, people. Posted Image

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smokingotter1 wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

Even if it doesn't mean we lose, no matter what, we can now be sure:

Control = succumb
Synthesis = 'ascend'


Their was foreshadowing in your final confrontation with Saren

"You could have fought" Destroy
"You could have resisted" Control
"Instead you surrendered" Synthesis
"You quit" Refuse

"I'd rather die than live like that"..... and you do die, unless you have a high EMS.


Holy Sh** :blink:

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NightBanshee.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Not sure if this was mentioned already but it made me think of you guys. From the official ME Facebook page:

The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

Posted Image
That's awesome! And this confirms that Bioware is getting indoctrinated! RUN!

Nice new avatar by the way! Posted Image


I don't think I'd be able to sleep with that thing in my house...

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BatmanTurian wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Not sure if this was mentioned already but it made me think of you guys. From the official ME Facebook page:

The BioWare store gets some pretty cool new items from time to time, but we've been hearing strange voices since this guy showed up. Is that normal?

http://biowarestore....ip-replica.html

Posted Image
That's awesome! And this confirms that Bioware is getting indoctrinated! RUN!

Nice new avatar by the way! Posted Image


I don't think I'd be able to sleep with that thing in my house...


If I obtain that, and the Garrus bust, my fandom collection will be complete...

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Okay I went out side the thread, and I saw IT first Control second, and Synthesis Third. Also Sevial talking about IT in his thread again, and Synthesis has more BS. So same old.

Modifié par masster blaster, 06 octobre 2012 - 05:58 .


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" in.ctrn8"

I'd already forgotten about that. So funny

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I just want to let everyone know that I pass up on average 3-4 jokes a day on this thread. The last one was hilarious.

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Wait spot I am sorry, but you joke 3-4 jokes a day.

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masster blaster wrote...

"Unfortunately: this is the result when they decide to make something "intensionally devisive" in the name of generating PR buzz.

There was no grand artistic point, as any writer who sacrafices narrative cohesion for "art" isn't writing a story anymore.

There was no grand intlelectual point, as in another thread I've detailed how the terms thrown arround weren't well defined or thought out.

There wasn't even a grand plan: since the story wasn't pre-thought out before the inception of ME1."

"lol i don't hate it i just think its rather pathetic.

it just looks like IMO that people are so upset with how the end of the story turned out that they are deluding themselves to make them believe something else entirely is going on to make themselves feel better so they don't have to continue to believe the endings were real, which is well pathetic lol


its a nice theory ^ if that wasnt part of the reasoning behind the whole theory (though they would never admit it)

lol its almost like crop circle theories (i do believe in aliens but crop circles? bah.) "


"I think that's quite untrue. I know many people on this forum that have seen various videos (Acavyos, Clevernoob etc.), write-ups, and just general theories posted on here.

To say that we don't care, and haven't put any time into understanding IT, whether it be Dream or Con, is incorrect for many of us regulars."

"I would call it sad on Bioware's part rather than pathetic on the fans'. When people are willing to dismiss the ending as "all a dream" because it's preferable to the literal interpretation, then there's something fundamentally wrong with it."

"Noone hates "IT". But many people disagree with it (including devs). "IT"ers may believe in what they want, but when they become too vocal and unreasonable in other threads, it becomes very annoying.

I think the best solution is to move all "IT" discussions to fan-fiction section of the forums. "IT" is fan-fiction, so I see no problem in that. But some particular "IT"ers' behavior is other threads is actually the very big problem. Story forum should be cleansed from "IT" once and for all. The sooner - the better. Fan-fictions should be discussed in fan-fiction section only. "


"Initially, one of the most common reasons to hate on IT was because it meant the game was incomplete. Though the concept of shipping an incomplete game had already existed before ME3 was released, and the EC confirms the game was incomplete as it exists on disk. It seems like the "incomplete" sentiment has dropped off, though. "

"Because it's probably the most intricate and convoluted pile of headcannon (crap) ever created. IT supporters are also impossible to argue with, you try to present facts and what's said in game and they respond by trying to present their imagination as fact.

You argue against their interpretations with in game facts for hours but at the end of the day you get nowhere because the only response they can reply with over and over again is "It's not true because I say so!""

"I hate IT mostly because it puts forth Destroy as the only option. I don't want to pick Destroy, the Geth are my friends.

Also, I like the moral debates that the endings in their legitimate state bring about. Is Synthesis moral? Can the Shepard-Catalyst maintain Control forever? Is the sacrifice of all synthetic life worth assurance that the Reapers can't possibly return? How will the Leviathans factor in to all of this? Once the low quality of the old endings were part-way mended, we could get thinking, and I love it. "

"I don't hate IT, I just think it's supporters are the most obnoxious people on the BSN"

"Those are pretty strong words you are using.

Me personally, I just don't care anymore about this topic. I'm on the side of Bioware in the sense that I will take whatever they give me literally, not some speculation based fan-fic ending that I'm supposed to put together by gathering clues. So no, I don't HATE IT. I just don't agree with it.

I usually just say this: IT is something I simply don't agree with. If somebody else does, then fine, you're entitled to you own opinion.

I think it's the hostile arguments that have arose surrounding this topic that made people to create labels and use such harsh language against others. "

"The IT would probably be ok if it wasn't for the people that believe it.

For example, so much people that believe the IT speak about it like it's the actual ending, when in reality it's so far from the ending that they might as well be talking about a different game. If that mentality would disappear, if an IT believer can seperate the IT from the ending in conversations about the ending and not IT, then there would be less frustration all round."

"You say this as though it makes a difference when it comes to the evidence you are submitting: It doesn't really.

Either way you are assigning meanings to things which in a real world scenario mean nothing, and in your scenario mean something BECAUSE the scenario is based on a corrupted lense as it were. By this same principal: litterally anything Shepard could possibly see could be put under the heading of "indoctrination induced".

He sees Kirby fling past the Normandy's observation deck window on a warpstar? 'Course he'd see that: he's indoctrinated."



More will be on the way.




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Masster if you're gonna insist on posting literalists being stupid, at least just compile them all in a pastebin or something and post the link to that. Its kind of annoying.

Anyhow, I'm going to sleep.

Modifié par byne, 06 octobre 2012 - 06:24 .


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spotlessvoid wrote...

" in.ctrn8"

I'd already forgotten about that. So funny


Mathemagician too Posted Image

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Nightbyne. I knew that would get you to come out of hiding.

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Okay night everyone.

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masster blaster wrote...

Nightbyne. I knew that would get you to come out of hiding.


I'm not hiding, I'm leveling my monk. Level 71!

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Nightbyne. I knew that would get you to come out of hiding.


I'm not hiding, I'm leveling my monk. Level 71!

Level faster Byne! Goodnight for real now. Posted Image