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BatmanTurian wrote...
These three posts of yours are the best on BSN and you should make your own thread and copy this into it. Seriously.
Thanks. I tried that once but the mods told me to post here instead lol. I was thinking is it possible to be indoctrinated via Prothean beacons? This is part of the reason I say Shepard has been indoctrinated since ME 1. Here are some codex entries to put some food for thought:
To save space, some of the codex lines was cut out but notice what it's referring to by the time you reach the one we're all familiar with sprinkled throughout
To start - Indoctrination Codex - Slow, patient indoctrination allows the thrall to last for months or years.
Citadel Codex - Supposedly constructed by the long-extinct Protheans, this colossal deep-space station serves as the capital of the Citadel Council
The Citadel retains many secrets. The precise age of the station is not known, nor what resilient material it is constructed from. The location of the Citadel's core and its master control unit, regulating systems such as life support and navigation, remain hidden. (REMEMBER HOW DID TIM USE THE REAPERS TO MOVE THE STATION? HE'S NOT IN CONTROL)
The Citadel was not, in fact, constructed by the Protheans; they were simply the last race to make use of the station before the asari arrived. It, and the mass relays, are the creations of the Reapers, and were built to help facilitate their cycle of galactic genocide.
Mass Relay Codex -
In ME 1 the codex starts off saying - Mass relays are feats of Prothean engineering advanced far beyond the technology of any living species.
By the end of ME 1 and throughout till ME 3 the codex says - Once believed to be of Prothean origin, mass relays were in fact created by the Reapers using technology far beyond that of other living species.
Protheans: Beacon Codex -The beacon was a Prothean artifact unearthed on the Alliance colony of Eden Prime.
It proved to be a solid state data storage device, part of a galaxy spanning comm network similar to the modern extranet. Intact Prothean "paleo-technology" is rare, the beacon seemed to promise another quantum leap of technology, akin to the discovery of the mass effect drive and relays.
During the recovery operation, the beacon fired a pulse of energy at the Executive Officer of the Alliance frigate Normandy. Lieutenant Commander Shepard survived and appears to have suffered no ill effects. Afterwards, the beacon fell inert. The mechanism appears to be dead
Protheans Cipher Codex -The Prothean beacon downloaded its knowledge into Lt. Commander Shepard on Eden Prime, causing confusing dreams and visions. While the imagery is becoming clearer with time, the meaning of the beacon communication remains elusive.
It has been suggested the Prothean data recording is highly dependent on a certain point of view, what Carl Jung described as the collective unconscious. The "cipher" needed to comprehend the images implanted in Shepard's mind is the cultural knowledge of a Prothean: the archetypes, biological instincts, and common experiences universal to the race. Since the Protheans have been dead for millennia it may be impossible to acquire this "cipher".
Indoctrination Codex - Reaper "indoctrination" is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds, "reprogramming" the brain through physical and psychological conditioning using electromagnetic fields, infrasonic and ultrasonic noise, and other subliminal methods. The Reaper's resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.
Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences.
The Cipher from the Mass Effect Wiki -
The Cipher[/b] - was used by both Saren Arterius and Shepard to allow them to interpret the visions held in the Prothean beacons on Eden Prime and Virmire. It is the cultural context, knowledge and experience of the Prothean race. This unique racial perspective allows a mind to comprehend information as a Prothean could, though it takes time for a non-Prothean mind to become accustomed to it. Without the Cipher, the images in the beacon's vision don't make sense to non-Protheans who lack the necessary attitudes, mindset, and cultural experience to correctly interpret them.
Commander Shepard gained the Cipher with the help of Shiala, an asari formerly working for Saren who was offered as a 'sacrifice' to the Thorian. (NOTICE THE QUOTES AROUND SACRIFICE THE WIKI USED)
When Shiala melded with the Thorian, she shared the Thorian's consciousness, and thus gained the Cipher left by the long-dead Protheans. Shiala transferred the Cipher directly to Shepard's mind. The experience left the Commander badly shaken, but was necessary to find the Conduit
Indoctrination Codex - Reaper "indoctrination" is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds, "reprogramming" the brain through physical and psychological conditioning using electromagnetic fields, infrasonic and ultrasonic noise, and other subliminal methods. The Reaper's resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.
Indoctrination can create perfect deep cover agents. A Reaper's "suggestions" can manipulate victims into betraying friends, trusting enemies, or viewing the Reaper itself with superstitious awe
The Thorian Codex - According to Shiala, the Thorian existed on Feros long before the Protheans arrived. It would spend thousands of years in hibernation, then awake for "a few frantic centuries" of activity before resting again.
IN ME 2 - In the aftermath of the geth attack, ExoGeni took the remains of the Thorian as they pulled offworld. Unfortunately, the effects of the Thorian spores still affected its victims. The colonists began having headaches or muscle spasms, similar to what they experience while under the Thorian's control,
Indoctrination Codex - Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches.
The Reaper's resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.
A new question - could the Thorian have been a failed Reaper Experiment into creating Reapers before they decided on the synthetic route? Could the Thorian really be a Leviathan just mutated into something unrecognizable and indoctrinated by the Reaper AI or at least still trying to function as a Leviathan?
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