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Yea guys, just thought I'd drop off this IT video that my friend made, he recently got banned from the BSN but I don't wanna create a topic for it because it will probs get locked or flamed.

SO here it is, it's a music vid that only goes for 5 mins. Enjoy! :)



Edit: Now clickable.

2nd edit, my first top of page! Posted Image

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And now for some...

Commander Bailey

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Shepard: What's the Citadel's pulse regarding the war?

Bailey: I think all the reports are starting to sink in. You can only live in denial so long.

Shepard: You either wake up or die. Either way...

Bailey: Yeah. One good thing about people having their heads up their asses is the quiet. Now there's no more quiet. Everybody's openly suspicious of everybody else, and they're not timid about yelling about it.
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Shepard: Is the Citadel gearing up for war?

Bailey: There's a false sense of security here. Even people from worlds that have gone down act like they're safe. I guess it's not just human nature. We all lie to ourselves to deal with horror.
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Bailey: Yeah, I'm just like everyone else, losing myself in things I can control. And at the moment, that means creating the illusion of security here.
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Bailey: Good work today, Shepard. You did what had to be done. Remember that.
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Shepard: We both have jobs to do, Bailey. I suggest we do them.

Bailey: Yep. Good talking with you.

Modifié par Bill Casey, 07 octobre 2012 - 04:49 .


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GDI. The MP forums are worse than the spoiler forums now. Is it still safe in here? :(

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yea guys, just thought I'd drop off this IT video that my friend made, he recently got banned from the BSN but I don't wanna create a topic for it because it will probs get locked or flamed.

SO here it is, it's a music vid that only goes for 5 mins. Enjoy! :)



Edit: Now clickable.

2nd edit, my first top of page! Posted Image


Tell your friend he did an outstanding job. I loved it and it's favorited. :D

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Rifneno wrote...

GDI. The MP forums are worse than the spoiler forums now. Is it still safe in here? :(


yeah, things are cool here.

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Bill Casey wrote...

And now for some...

Commander Bailey

Posted Image

_______________________________________________

Shepard: What's the Citadel's pulse regarding the war?

Bailey: I think all the reports are starting to sink in. You can only live in denial so long.

Shepard: You either wake up or die. Either way...

Bailey: Yeah. One good thing about people having their heads up their asses is the quiet. Now there's no more quiet. Everybody's openly suspicious of everybody else, and they're not timid about yelling about it.
_______________________________________________

Shepard: Is the Citadel gearing up for war?

Bailey: There's a false sense of security here. Even people from worlds that have gone down act like they're safe. I guess it's not just human nature. We all lie to ourselves to deal with horror.
_______________________________________________

Bailey: Yeah, I'm just like everyone else, losing myself in things I can control. And at the moment, that means creating the illusion of security here.
_______________________________________________

Bailey: Good work today, Shepard. You did what had to be done. Remember that.
_______________________________________________

Shepard: We both have jobs to do, Bailey. I suggest we do them.

Bailey: Yep. Good talking with you.


Ooo nice.  I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.

By the way I thought of what I said earlier about the thread being locked out.  So I said come to the IT thread if you want to discuss IT issues

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masster blaster wrote...

Okay I am having the third dream right now.


Like....for real?

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CmdrShep80 wrote...

Ooo nice.  I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.

By the way I thought of what I said earlier about the thread being locked out.  So I said come to the IT thread if you want to discuss IT issues

Very well, I'll start with a simple one: Is the kid in Vancouver a machination of the Reapers?

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@BatmanTurian, thanks I will tell him! :)


Rifneno wrote...

GDI. The MP forums are worse than the spoiler forums now. Is it still safe in here? :(


I know right!? Did you see my Vorcha engineer thread yesterday? lol

Edit: http://social.biowar.../index/14375769
I posted it when the servers for ME3 were down. It didn't get much attention I don't think, but I was damn proud of it lol

I honestly think there is more whining in the MP forums then any other board on BSN. They are fun joke around with or troll on sometimes though Posted Image

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 07 octobre 2012 - 05:02 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Salarian waistline is too high.

It's probably a Turian female. Low shoulders, long torso, broad chest. But that is strictly a guess.


low shoulders are an illusion because of the cloth of Kasumi's hood meeting her shoulder plates, again creating the illusion of lower shouldes in a low quality picture because the fabric is not very visable, being black against a dark background and cloth rather than shiny metal.


Not saying youre wrong :lol:


well, then at least that's two people willing to at least entertain the idea... :whistle:

Hey, I entertained the idea long enough to see if pieces matched. They mostly didn't, but it's still on the list because it's an option. I give it a 20% chance. Salarian 30%, Female Turian 27%, something else entirely 23%.
We've agreed on a lot of things in the past on the thread, but unfortunately not this one.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

GDI. The MP forums are worse than the spoiler forums now. Is it still safe in here? :(


yeah, things are cool here.

Mostly....

We kinda had a little spat earlier. But we're done with that now, right?:whistle:

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Salarian waistline is too high.

It's probably a Turian female. Low shoulders, long torso, broad chest. But that is strictly a guess.


low shoulders are an illusion because of the cloth of Kasumi's hood meeting her shoulder plates, again creating the illusion of lower shouldes in a low quality picture because the fabric is not very visable, being black against a dark background and cloth rather than shiny metal.


Not saying youre wrong :lol:


well, then at least that's two people willing to at least entertain the idea... :whistle:

Hey, I entertained the idea long enough to see if pieces matched. They mostly didn't, but it's still on the list because it's an option. I give it a 20% chance. Salarian 30%, Female Turian 27%, something else entirely 23%.
We've agreed on a lot of things in the past on the thread, but unfortunately not this one.


Fair enough. I just thought we weren't getting anywhere arguing over it. Life's too short to argue over things that it's obvious we won't agree on until more information is provided.

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Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

GDI. The MP forums are worse than the spoiler forums now. Is it still safe in here? :(


yeah, things are cool here.

Mostly....

We kinda had a little spat earlier. But we're done with that now, right?:whistle:

I wouldn't call it a spat. I think I came off more angry than I actually was. I was just conceding that we weren't going to agree.

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Ooo nice. I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.


I missed a lot of the casual conversations on the Citadel. Was just listening to one about someone's friend was fine one minute, then she got turned into a Banshee. She can be located at the Hospital floor. There are two Asari sitting in chairs chatting.

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LDS Darth Revan wrote...

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Ooo nice.  I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.

By the way I thought of what I said earlier about the thread being locked out.  So I said come to the IT thread if you want to discuss IT issues

Very well, I'll start with a simple one: Is the kid in Vancouver a machination of the Reapers?

That seems to be the prevailing opinion, though not unanimous.

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magnetite wrote...

Ooo nice. I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.

I missed a lot of the casual conversations on the Citadel. Was just listening to one about someone's friend was fine one minute, then she got turned into a Banshee. She can be located at the Hospital floor. There are two Asari sitting in chairs chatting.

That's the PTSD Asari...
It's all but flat out stated that she killed Joker's sister...

- Tiptree
- 15 year old girl
- Named Hilary
- Wanted to be a pilot

There are also a couple of nurses on the Presidium Commons who talk about the PTSD Asari...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 07 octobre 2012 - 05:16 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

GDI. The MP forums are worse than the spoiler forums now. Is it still safe in here? :(


yeah, things are cool here.

Mostly....

We kinda had a little spat earlier. But we're done with that now, right?:whistle:

I wouldn't call it a spat. I think I came off more angry than I actually was. I was just conceding that we weren't going to agree.

I probably came off more angry than I actually was, too. Written form tends to do that to people.

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Bill Casey wrote...

magnetite wrote...

Ooo nice. I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.

I missed a lot of the casual conversations on the Citadel. Was just listening to one about someone's friend was fine one minute, then she got turned into a Banshee. She can be located at the Hospital floor. There are two Asari sitting in chairs chatting.

That's the PTSD Asari...
It's all but flat out stated that she killed Joker's sister...

- Tiptree
- 15 year old girl
- Named Hilary
- Wanted to be a pilot


Don't be silly, that's just your SPECULATION, nothing m--oh wait, I'm not a braindead wikia admin.  Sorry, carry on.

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Yea, can I ask what this is about the wikia community bashing IT with the stick up their asses?

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Bill Casey wrote...
That's the PTSD Asari...
It's all but flat out stated that she killed Joker's sister...

- Tiptree
- 15 year old girl
- Named Hilary
- Wanted to be a pilot

There are also a couple of nurses on the Presidium Commons who talk about the PTSD Asari...


I only listened to a couple of the conversations, not the whole thing. I was doing other things at the time.

Modifié par magnetite, 07 octobre 2012 - 05:28 .


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Yea, can I ask what this is about the wikia community bashing IT with the stick up their asses?

Hello everyone! I don't know, but the ME wiki sucks. The people there are total dictators.

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Bill Casey wrote...

magnetite wrote...



Ooo nice. I think we all dismissed this as casual conversation.

I missed a lot of the casual conversations on the Citadel. Was just listening to one about someone's friend was fine one minute, then she got turned into a Banshee. She can be located at the Hospital floor. There are two Asari sitting in chairs chatting.

That's the PTSD Asari...
It's all but flat out stated that she killed Joker's sister...

- Tiptree
- 16 year old girl
- Named Hilary
- Wanted to be a pilot


Though did you notice the whole theme of arguing during all the ambient dialogues?  And Shepard comes in to make a choice.  The choice you make affects your war assets.  But I think it also affects you while you're trying to figure out if you're indoctrinated or not.  BioWare's giving subtle hints of subtle indoctrinated people arguing when they normally wouldn't
So for example, that one about the PTSD Asari.  I gave her the gun in the end thinking it would protect her, well crap.  She shot herself.  Sounds familiar.  All the indoctrinated people end up shooting themselves.  Plus, was the girl she was protecting really truely there?  I think she was indoctrinated and trying to struggle to find a way out.  I also think she was rapidly indoctrinated which may explain why she shows up with what may look like common PDSD symptoms.  Can Asari really get PTSD?  They live for thousands of years.  How old was this Asari  We really don't know if they can or can't nor know how experienced she was before she was admitted to the hospital.


Reaper "indoctrination" is an insidious means of corrupting organic minds, "reprogramming" the brain through physical and psychological conditioning using electromagnetic fields, infrasonic and ultrasonic noise, and other subliminal methods. The Reaper's resulting control over the limbic system leaves the victim highly susceptible to its suggestions.

Organics undergoing indoctrination may complain of headaches and buzzing or ringing in their ears. As time passes, they have feelings of "being watched" and hallucinations of "ghostly" presences. Ultimately, the Reaper gains the ability to use the victim's body to amplify its signals, manifesting as "alien" voices in the mind.

Indoctrination can create perfect deep cover agents. A Reaper's "suggestions" can manipulate victims into betraying friends, trusting enemies, or viewing the Reaper itself with superstitious awe. Should a Reaper subvert a well-placed political or military leader, the resulting chaos can bring down nations.
Long-term physical effects of the manipulation are unsustainable, Higher mental functioning decays, ultimately leaving the victim a gibbering animal. Rapid indoctrination is possible, but causes this decay in days or weeks. Slow, patient indoctrination allows the thrall to last for months or years.

A lot of the ambient arguements all involved some part of the indoctrination codex.  Examples - I don't want to cut my leg off, I don't want to fight my brother, the arguing couple about the armor I sold my car for you, the best one is the Adams and Dr. Chakwas arguement - organics versus synthetics

Engineer Adams and Dr. Chakwas Argument

Modifié par CmdrShep80, 07 octobre 2012 - 05:29 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yea, can I ask what this is about the wikia community bashing IT with the stick up their asses?

Hello everyone! I don't know, but the ME wiki sucks. The people there are total dictators.


Wanna play some ME3 MP?

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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Yea, can I ask what this is about the wikia community bashing IT with the stick up their asses?


It's not about IT.  They do that with any intelligent thought.  They did the same **** when people noted Matriarch Aethyta looking at Liara's picture, for instance.  Look how that turned out.  Those morons need everything spelled out for them.

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magnetite wrote...

I only listened to a couple of the conversations, not the whole thing. I was doing other things at the time.

The PTSD Asari