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[byne]

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Of all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

Modifié par byne, 07 octobre 2012 - 07:54 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

The Vanguards in the pic are Volus and Batarian. Speaking of which, the trailer deduction matches this list on 3 out of 4 accounts: the trailer shows what some have deduced from power use that the Krogan is an Adept, the Batarian a Vanguard, and the Asari a Sentinel. Based off of that we're left with the one that doesn't match: the Drell. Based of the trailer, it should be an Engineer, not an Infiltrator. The Geth seemed normal, but it could've been the Soldier.

Why would the asari be a sentinel? She didn't have Tech Armour on. I think Infiltrator. Why can't the drell be an infiltrator? Homing Grenades are tech, and Infiltrators are tech and combat.

The Asari used a biotic power usually associated with Sentinels, and the biotic power alone removes the ability for that specific one to be an Infiltrator, and Homing Grenades are the trademark of the Demolisher currently. Why would an Infiltrator have them? Also when you take into account the two new Turians, all that leaves is Engineer.

The wiki says there will be an 'asari huntress infiltrator,' but I dont know how accurate that is.

Anyhow, claiming that using biotics automatically makes her not an infiltrator is silly. All asari have biotics. Making an asari infiltrator without biotics would be weird.

Unless you're saying there simply cant be asari infiltrators?

There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

But the Paladin has no biotics. Sentinels have tech and biotics. If there is an exception there, why not here? Just saying...

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Or all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

I am a biotic god! 

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 07 octobre 2012 - 07:54 .

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

[AresKeith]

They could be Biotic Infiltrators

[byne]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Or all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

I am a biotic god! 

You quoting me made me realize I said 'Or all time' instead of 'Of all time!' How mortifying!

[BatmanTurian]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

The Vanguards in the pic are Volus and Batarian. Speaking of which, the trailer deduction matches this list on 3 out of 4 accounts: the trailer shows what some have deduced from power use that the Krogan is an Adept, the Batarian a Vanguard, and the Asari a Sentinel. Based off of that we're left with the one that doesn't match: the Drell. Based of the trailer, it should be an Engineer, not an Infiltrator. The Geth seemed normal, but it could've been the Soldier.

Why would the asari be a sentinel? She didn't have Tech Armour on. I think Infiltrator. Why can't the drell be an infiltrator? Homing Grenades are tech, and Infiltrators are tech and combat.

The Asari used a biotic power usually associated with Sentinels, and the biotic power alone removes the ability for that specific one to be an Infiltrator, and Homing Grenades are the trademark of the Demolisher currently. Why would an Infiltrator have them? Also when you take into account the two new Turians, all that leaves is Engineer.

The wiki says there will be an 'asari huntress infiltrator,' but I dont know how accurate that is.

Anyhow, claiming that using biotics automatically makes her not an infiltrator is silly. All asari have biotics. Making an asari infiltrator without biotics would be weird.

Unless you're saying there simply cant be asari infiltrators?

There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

It doesn't have to use tech. There are plenty of ways for Geth to fight without them.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

An interesting point, and I'm not saying I disagree with you, but just because they all could use tech doesn't mean they all do frequently. Geth Pyros don't use tech. Geth Rocket troopers and troopers don't use tech. Technically, anyone with an omnitool can use tech. Everyone in MP has omnitools, including Vorcha. Being an "Engineer" simply means that person generally prefers using tech attacks.

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

byne wrote...

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Or all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

I am a biotic god! 

You quoting me made me realize I said 'Or all time' instead of 'Of all time!' How mortifying!

maybe you meant " Or of all time"

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

It doesn't have to use tech. There are plenty of ways for Geth to fight without them.

But that means they'd be less effective.

Shepard can take bonus powers that dont fit her class, why cant multiplayer characters?

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Of all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

oh and vanguards are invulnerable when charging the enemy. Your argument is invalid.

[BansheeOwnage]

BatmanTurian wrote...

But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

Whoa. BatmanTurian just raised the stakes. Nice idea, though not actually too relevant.

[BatmanTurian]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

Whoa. BatmanTurian just raised the stakes. Nice idea, though not actually too relevant.

just a thought. might be a cool new way to use biotics.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

It doesn't have to use tech. There are plenty of ways for Geth to fight without them.

But that means they'd be less effective.

Shepard can take bonus powers that dont fit her class, why cant multiplayer characters?

Well, that is mostly a game mechanic. Soldier Shep can use Dominate!

Back later. Must stockpile more credits.

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:01 .

[masster blaster]

HOLY S***!

Guys you won"t believe what I found after the Citadel coup attempt when you are talking to Hackett, and Anderson.



Shepard: " How is the progress on the Crucible?"

Hackett:" Good. Our estimates suggest we've completed nearly 50% of the known work."

Shepard: " So quickly?"

Hackett:" Once decoded the schematics are designed in such a way that allows our scientist to easily translate the information. It's not Prothean specific."

Shepard: " Hmm."

Well from what I can tell is that we have been speculating that the Reapers left the blue prints of the Crucible for the cycles to build, yet both the Catalyst, and the Leviathan say some cycles ago created the Crucible. Yet the Leviathan conversation you have about the Crucible is rather ominous. It's like it know about the Crucible, yet it seems like it's lying about what it really does.

Also I forgot to elaborate, that in this stage of the game, TIM is already trying to gain Control of the Citadel, yet at the end he CALLS the Reapers. This doesn't make any sense because if he already know about the Catalyst, then why didn't he call the Reapers already, and the Citadel could have been taken during the middle of the game.

Also here is the link : www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:04 .

[byne]

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Of all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

oh and vanguards are invulnerable when charging the enemy. Your argument is invalid.

But not after the charge. Unless he has nova, he's just a slow little volus who has launched himself into the middle of a group of enemies with no quick way out.

[Either.Ardrey]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

The Vanguards in the pic are Volus and Batarian. Speaking of which, the trailer deduction matches this list on 3 out of 4 accounts: the trailer shows what some have deduced from power use that the Krogan is an Adept, the Batarian a Vanguard, and the Asari a Sentinel. Based off of that we're left with the one that doesn't match: the Drell. Based of the trailer, it should be an Engineer, not an Infiltrator. The Geth seemed normal, but it could've been the Soldier.

Why would the asari be a sentinel? She didn't have Tech Armour on. I think Infiltrator. Why can't the drell be an infiltrator? Homing Grenades are tech, and Infiltrators are tech and combat.

The Asari used a biotic power usually associated with Sentinels, and the biotic power alone removes the ability for that specific one to be an Infiltrator, and Homing Grenades are the trademark of the Demolisher currently. Why would an Infiltrator have them? Also when you take into account the two new Turians, all that leaves is Engineer.

The wiki says there will be an 'asari huntress infiltrator,' but I dont know how accurate that is.

Anyhow, claiming that using biotics automatically makes her not an infiltrator is silly. All asari have biotics. Making an asari infiltrator without biotics would be weird.

Unless you're saying there simply cant be asari infiltrators?

There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

@Banshee: That's also why the Paladin works without biotics. It's easier to take away than add because it's not incorrect, and the protective Shield is what makes it like a Sentinel. Soldiers are weapon centric, Engineers are tool centric, Adepts are Biotic power centric, and Vanguards are Biotic charge centric  (even though they wouldn't technically have to, but they do anyway).

[masster blaster]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Hackett, and his speeches are just amazing. Let me explain.
www.youtube.com/watch

" The Reapers will show us no mercy. We must give them no quarter. They will terrorize our populations. we must stand fast in the face of that terror. They will advance until our last city falls, but we will fail. We will prevail. Each of us will be defined by our actions in the coming battle. Stand fast. Stand strong. Stand together. Hackett out."

One Hackett tells everyone, including Shepard/us that we can show them no mercy, and kill them all.

Two Hackett is remind Shepard, and the player, that the Reapers will harvest/kill every advanced race, and will not stop until the last city fails.

Three foreshadowing at the end, when Hackett says " Each of us will be defined by our actions in the coming battle.' The end is our actions/ Shepard's, and the endings we pick is defining us, and the Reapers.

Here is the video.

Exactly, MB. Exactly.

Thanks Banshee.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

HOLY S***!

Guys you won"t believe what I found after the Citadel coup attempt when you are talking to Hackett, and Anderson.



Shepard: " How is the progress on the Crucible?"

Hackett:" Good. Our estimates suggest we've completed nearly 50% of the known work."

Shepard: " So quickly?"

Hackett:" Once decoded the schematics are designed in such a way that allows our scientist to easily translate the information. It's not Prothean specific."

Shepard: " Hmm."

Well from what I can tell is that we have been speculating that the Reapers left the blue prints of the Crucible for the cycles to build, yet both the Catalyst, and the Leviathan say some cycles ago created the Crucible. Yet the Leviathan conversation you have about the Crucible is rather ominous. It's like it know about the Crucible, yet it seems like it's lying about what it really does.

Also I forgot to elaborate, that in this stage of the game, TIM is already trying to gain Control of the Citadel, yet at the end he CALLS the Reapers. This doesn't make any sense because if he already know about the Catalyst, then why didn't he call the Reapers already, and the Citadel could have been taken during the middle of the game.

Also here is the link : www.youtube.com/watch

We've known the Crucible wasnt prothean specific since we first played the game, Masster. I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at?

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

It doesn't have to use tech. There are plenty of ways for Geth to fight without them.

But that means they'd be less effective.

Shepard can take bonus powers that dont fit her class, why cant multiplayer characters?

Like Banshee said. Shep is Shep, and Shep is special. Shep is greater than the MP classes.

[BatmanTurian]

byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

byne wrote...

Can I say a volus vanguard sounds like the dumbest idea ever? Of all time?

If I puncture my suit, my skin will literally split open and I'll die! I'd better charge at extreme speed towards the enemy!

oh and vanguards are invulnerable when charging the enemy. Your argument is invalid.

But not after the charge. Unless he has nova, he's just a slow little volus who has launched himself into the middle of a group of enemies with no quick way out.

yeah that would be silly.

[AresKeith]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...


There can be Asari Infiltrators, as long as they don't train or use their Biotic abilities. Otherwise it would break the definition of Infiltrator as a Combat/Tech hybrid. All class structure would break down and the universe would combust in a conflagration of Care Bear chaos!!!......Oh dear.

So if there is a geth soldier, are you against it using tech, despite being a robot?

It doesn't have to use tech. There are plenty of ways for Geth to fight without them.

But that means they'd be less effective.

Shepard can take bonus powers that dont fit her class, why cant multiplayer characters?

Like Banshee said. Shep is Shep, and Shep is special. Shep is greater than the MP classes.

Shep doesn't have Jetpack armor  lol

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

That isnt what you've been arguing though...

You've been arguing that tech/combat makes one an infiltrator, and thus one with biotics cannot be an infiltrator.

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

That isnt what you've been arguing though...

You've been arguing that tech/combat makes one an infiltrator, and thus one with biotics cannot be an infiltrator.

I've been arguing that for combat it's tech/combat. The unique attribute can be explained however one wants, such as the Asari use a tech unit that utilizes their natural biotic ability. An Infiltrator using Reave or Warp would break the system, not an alternate version (or alternately explained version) of Tactical Cloak, because in the end, it's still the same, only accounting for character background.

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:14 .