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[Home run MF]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

That isnt what you've been arguing though...

You've been arguing that tech/combat makes one an infiltrator, and thus one with biotics cannot be an infiltrator.

War assets prove they can:

Armali Sniper Unit
"The Armali Sniper Unit is an elite team of asari commandos who favor long-distance engagement. Some of the unit's soldiers have augmented themselves with strength-boosting cybernetic implants, allowing them to fire heavier guns, like the 39-kilogram M-98 Widow anti-material rifle, with incredible precision."

Modifié par Home run MF, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:14 .

[spotlessvoid]

Well, back from the heart of darkness. All they could end up doing is shouting nuh-uh and insults. Next time, somebody please stage an intervention and stop me

[AresKeith]

Home run MF wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

That isnt what you've been arguing though...

You've been arguing that tech/combat makes one an infiltrator, and thus one with biotics cannot be an infiltrator.

War assets prove they can:

Armali Sniper Unit
"The Armali Sniper Unit is an elite team of asari commandos who favor long-distance engagement. Some of the unit's soldiers have augmented themselves with strength-boosting cybernetic implants, allowing them to fire heavier guns, like the 39-kilogram M-98 Widow anti-material rifle, with incredible precision."

And Drell Assassins could be Biotic Infiltrators, if you wanna be technical

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

That isnt what you've been arguing though...

You've been arguing that tech/combat makes one an infiltrator, and thus one with biotics cannot be an infiltrator.

I've been arguing that for combat it's tech/combat. The unique attribute can be explained however one wants, such as the Asari use a tech unit that utilizes their natural biotic ability. An Infiltrator using Reave or Warp would break the system, not an alternate version (or alternately explained version) of Tactical Cloak, because in the end, it's still the same, only accounting for character background.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Are you saying an asari with no tech abilities could still be an infiltrator as long as she can cloak using biotics?

[CmdrShep80]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

Whoa. BatmanTurian just raised the stakes. Nice idea, though not actually too relevant.

it is if that's what makes up the cloaking field by using biopics to maintain the cloak. Do the other cloak able units do this or use technology to cloak?

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

HOLY S***!

Guys you won"t believe what I found after the Citadel coup attempt when you are talking to Hackett, and Anderson.



Shepard: " How is the progress on the Crucible?"

Hackett:" Good. Our estimates suggest we've completed nearly 50% of the known work."

Shepard: " So quickly?"

Hackett:" Once decoded the schematics are designed in such a way that allows our scientist to easily translate the information. It's not Prothean specific."

Shepard: " Hmm."

Well from what I can tell is that we have been speculating that the Reapers left the blue prints of the Crucible for the cycles to build, yet both the Catalyst, and the Leviathan say some cycles ago created the Crucible. Yet the Leviathan conversation you have about the Crucible is rather ominous. It's like it know about the Crucible, yet it seems like it's lying about what it really does.

Also I forgot to elaborate, that in this stage of the game, TIM is already trying to gain Control of the Citadel, yet at the end he CALLS the Reapers. This doesn't make any sense because if he already know about the Catalyst, then why didn't he call the Reapers already, and the Citadel could have been taken during the middle of the game.

Also here is the link : www.youtube.com/watch

We've known the Crucible wasnt prothean specific since we first played the game, Masster. I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at?

That's the point byne. We know the crucible is a  commendation of every
past cycle before this cycle, yet we have been speculating that is' a
trap. I did this because this helps the fact that the Crucible is a
trap.

1. We don't know who originally built the Crucible.

2. We don't know what it really does, yet the Brat does.

3. We have speculated the Crucible is not a battery, but a Mass Accelerator Canon, or a big Dreadnought.

4.
We assumed the the Reapers left behind the Crucible, so that the galaxy
can waste all it's resources for a device that won't work.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

HOLY S***!

Guys you won"t believe what I found after the Citadel coup attempt when you are talking to Hackett, and Anderson.



Shepard: " How is the progress on the Crucible?"

Hackett:" Good. Our estimates suggest we've completed nearly 50% of the known work."

Shepard: " So quickly?"

Hackett:" Once decoded the schematics are designed in such a way that allows our scientist to easily translate the information. It's not Prothean specific."

Shepard: " Hmm."

Well from what I can tell is that we have been speculating that the Reapers left the blue prints of the Crucible for the cycles to build, yet both the Catalyst, and the Leviathan say some cycles ago created the Crucible. Yet the Leviathan conversation you have about the Crucible is rather ominous. It's like it know about the Crucible, yet it seems like it's lying about what it really does.

Also I forgot to elaborate, that in this stage of the game, TIM is already trying to gain Control of the Citadel, yet at the end he CALLS the Reapers. This doesn't make any sense because if he already know about the Catalyst, then why didn't he call the Reapers already, and the Citadel could have been taken during the middle of the game.

Also here is the link : www.youtube.com/watch

We've known the Crucible wasnt prothean specific since we first played the game, Masster. I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at?

That's the point byne.

Ok, I was only confused because the "HOLY **** YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT I FOUND" threw me off. I figured it'd be something I wouldnt believe, not something we already knew.

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...


But what if they used a biotic field that bends light around them? Afterall, it changes space/time and it's manipulation of Dark Matter. They could still use biotics in that case.

That would be a great workaround. Because turning invisible is what makes an Infiltrator truly an infiltrator, and not just the Tech/Combat thing.

That isnt what you've been arguing though...

You've been arguing that tech/combat makes one an infiltrator, and thus one with biotics cannot be an infiltrator.

I've been arguing that for combat it's tech/combat. The unique attribute can be explained however one wants, such as the Asari use a tech unit that utilizes their natural biotic ability. An Infiltrator using Reave or Warp would break the system, not an alternate version (or alternately explained version) of Tactical Cloak, because in the end, it's still the same, only accounting for character background.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Are you saying an asari with no tech abilities could still be an infiltrator as long as she can cloak using biotics?

She can have tech abilities. Where'd you get that idea from? Just take out the no, and that's what I'm saying, sort of. The cloak can also be tech supported biotics.

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:25 .

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Are you saying an asari with no tech abilities could still be an infiltrator as long as she can cloak using biotics?

She can have tech abilities. Where'd you get that idea from? Just take out the no, and that's what I'm saying, sort of. The cloak can also be tech supported biotics.

Wait wait wait, so you agree she can be an infiltrator and use biotics? Then what have we been arguing about this whole time?

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Are you saying an asari with no tech abilities could still be an infiltrator as long as she can cloak using biotics?

She can have tech abilities. Where'd you get that idea from? Just take out the no, and that's what I'm saying, sort of. The cloak can also be tech supported biotics.

Wait wait wait, so you agree she can be an infiltrator and use biotics? Then what have we been arguing about this whole time?

As long as the Biotics are restricted to the Cloak

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Are you saying an asari with no tech abilities could still be an infiltrator as long as she can cloak using biotics?

She can have tech abilities. Where'd you get that idea from? Just take out the no, and that's what I'm saying, sort of. The cloak can also be tech supported biotics.

Wait wait wait, so you agree she can be an infiltrator and use biotics? Then what have we been arguing about this whole time?

As long as the Biotics are restricted to the Cloak

Since she's an asari, she will by definition also have biotic dashes intead of rolls and that weird biotic heavy melee, though.

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

HOLY S***!

Guys you won"t believe what I found after the Citadel coup attempt when you are talking to Hackett, and Anderson.



Shepard: " How is the progress on the Crucible?"

Hackett:" Good. Our estimates suggest we've completed nearly 50% of the known work."

Shepard: " So quickly?"

Hackett:" Once decoded the schematics are designed in such a way that allows our scientist to easily translate the information. It's not Prothean specific."

Shepard: " Hmm."

Well from what I can tell is that we have been speculating that the Reapers left the blue prints of the Crucible for the cycles to build, yet both the Catalyst, and the Leviathan say some cycles ago created the Crucible. Yet the Leviathan conversation you have about the Crucible is rather ominous. It's like it know about the Crucible, yet it seems like it's lying about what it really does.

Also I forgot to elaborate, that in this stage of the game, TIM is already trying to gain Control of the Citadel, yet at the end he CALLS the Reapers. This doesn't make any sense because if he already know about the Catalyst, then why didn't he call the Reapers already, and the Citadel could have been taken during the middle of the game.

Also here is the link : www.youtube.com/watch

We've known the Crucible wasnt prothean specific since we first played the game, Masster. I'm not sure what point you're trying to get at?

That's the point byne. We know the crucible is a  commendation of every
past cycle before this cycle, yet we have been speculating that is' a
trap. I did this because this helps the fact that the Crucible is a
trap.

1. We don't know who originally built the Crucible.

2. We don't know what it really does, yet the Brat does.

3. We have speculated the Crucible is not a battery, but a Mass Accelerator Canon, or a big Dreadnought.

4.
We assumed the the Reapers left behind the Crucible, so that the galaxy
can waste all it's resources for a device that won't work.

Ok, I was only confused because the "HOLY **** YOU WONT BELIEVE WHAT I FOUND" threw me off. I figured it'd be something I wouldnt believe, not something we already knew.

I like to give a dramatic entrance

Modifié par masster blaster, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:31 .

[Dwailing]

So, what's new?

[Either.Ardrey]

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Are you saying an asari with no tech abilities could still be an infiltrator as long as she can cloak using biotics?

She can have tech abilities. Where'd you get that idea from? Just take out the no, and that's what I'm saying, sort of. The cloak can also be tech supported biotics.

Wait wait wait, so you agree she can be an infiltrator and use biotics? Then what have we been arguing about this whole time?

As long as the Biotics are restricted to the Cloak

Since she's an asari, she will by definition also have biotic dashes intead of rolls and that weird biotic heavy melee, though.

That's fine. Those don't really count in the Combat/Tech/Biotic equation. Those are just based on physiology and history.

[byne]

Dwailing wrote...

So, what's new?

Last night we talked about whether the person behind Shep in the Omega picture had boobs and now we're talking about whether or not asari inflitrators can use biotics.

Thats about all I'm aware of.

Modifié par byne, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:32 .

[masster blaster]

No no no byne we talked about Cerberus, and Leviathan earlier while you weren't on.

[Dwailing]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

So, what's new?

Last night we talked about whether the person behind Shep in the Omega picture had boobs and now we're talking about whether or not asari inflitrators can use biotics.

Thats about all I'm aware of.

Ah, OK.  The asari Infiltrator thing is interesting.  Was that in relation to the upcoming DLC?

[byne]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

byne wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

As long as the Biotics are restricted to the Cloak

Since she's an asari, she will by definition also have biotic dashes intead of rolls and that weird biotic heavy melee, though.

That's fine. Those don't really count in the Combat/Tech/Biotic equation. Those are just based on physiology and history.

But so is the asari's use of biotic powers. Even Samara's daughter who lived in a monastery and never fought had some use of biotics.

Also, the codex says this:

Huntresses fight individually or in pairs, depending on the tactics preferred in their town. One-on-one, a huntress is practically unbeatable, possessing profound tactical insight, a hunter's eye, and a dancer's grace and alacrity. Biotics are common enough that some capability is a requirement to be trained as a huntress; lack of biotic talent excludes a young asari from military service.

If the infiltrator is indeed a huntress, she has to have biotics. It is a requirement of her job.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

No no no byne we talked about Cerberus, and Leviathan earlier while you weren't on.

But I wasnt aware of that, hence my inclusion of 'thats all that I'm aware of'

[N7L4D]

The asari infiltratior could have dominate and cluster/lift grenades
That would be like the female quarian AI hack is basically dominate for synthetics and stuff so I see nothing wrong an asari infiltratior

[BatmanTurian]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well, back from the heart of darkness. All they could end up doing is shouting nuh-uh and insults. Next time, somebody please stage an intervention and stop me

I tried to support you, but eventually we get dog-piled.

[Dwailing]

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well, back from the heart of darkness. All they could end up doing is shouting nuh-uh and insults. Next time, somebody please stage an intervention and stop me

I tried to support you, but eventually we get dog-piled.

Where did you go?  Did you try to reason with Literalists?  Worse yet, did you try to reason with SYNTHESIZERS?   Because to approve of Synthesis requires a mind boggling amount of, there's no other word for it, stupidity.

[masster blaster]

You know I am watching Leviathan ending, and I am thinking in my head " My god look how easily Leviathan got into Shepard's head, yet people won't believe their Shepard can be Indoctrinated."
Any ways as I watched the video I kept seeing Shepard jumping back and forth from dream to reality, and I wonder if that's what's happening with Shepard at the end of the game, I mean Shepard wakes up after Harbinger hits/semi hits Shepard, yet when we go up to the Citadel, there is the sound that the opening door sound that is like when Shepard is coming from a trans, and regained Control over his/her body.


Any ways I am going to dissect the Leviathan ending, and compare it to the meeting the Catalyst,

[byne]

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well, back from the heart of darkness. All they could end up doing is shouting nuh-uh and insults. Next time, somebody please stage an intervention and stop me

I tried to support you, but eventually we get dog-piled.

Where did you go?  Did you try to reason with Literalists?  Worse yet, did you try to reason with SYNTHESIZERS?   Because to approve of Synthesis requires a mind boggling amount of, there's no other word for it, stupidity.

At least Control supporters can argue that the Reapers will stay in line because Shepard controls them or changed their personality or something.

Synthesis supporters just assume that because everyone is now the same, we will get along forever.

Civil wars have never once happened in history due to this very fact.

[BatmanTurian]

Dwailing wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Well, back from the heart of darkness. All they could end up doing is shouting nuh-uh and insults. Next time, somebody please stage an intervention and stop me

I tried to support you, but eventually we get dog-piled.

Where did you go?  Did you try to reason with Literalists?  Worse yet, did you try to reason with SYNTHESIZERS?   Because to approve of Synthesis requires a mind boggling amount of, there's no other word for it, stupidity.

Elcor voice: *sheepishly* Yes. We did.

http://social.biowar...9833/1#14389833

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 07 octobre 2012 - 08:49 .