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[Rankincountry]

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Nothing about the literal ending makes the slightest sense. It's disheartening and unnerving to see how hard people defend synthesis. They can't even muster up any arguments besides I love it because I saved the universe and nuh-uh IT isnt true.

I am on their thread right now.

I don't want you hanging around with those literalists. They're a bad influence. Next thing I know you'll be messing up the front lawn controlling Reapers everywhere or trying to synthesise me with my toaster and I'm not having that.

[Xilizhra]

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

[masster blaster]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Nothing about the literal ending makes the slightest sense. It's disheartening and unnerving to see how hard people defend synthesis. They can't even muster up any arguments besides I love it because I saved the universe and nuh-uh IT isnt true.

Are you actually capable of reading anything you're in ideological disagreement with?

hello.

[Bill Casey]

Xilizhra wrote...

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

Those people are touting and celebrating utterly disgusting and indefensible ideologies...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:10 .

[plfranke]

Xilizhra wrote...

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

I don't think that's an accurate description of all ITers. If there was someone who was doing that I'd say it's because you guys are wrong. Personally, I couldn't care less about proving you guys wrong, but you're wrong and IT is right there's no in between. So that's the way I feel about it, I don't think there's any need for a "everything is a valid interperetation" anyone who believes in the literal ending is just wrong.

[spotlessvoid]

Xilizhra wrote...

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

If pointing out the themes of mass effect is wrong....

Anyways, that was an ITDLC thread that got derailed by people who hate IT. Productive...


I'm a very open minded person. You don't know a damn thing about me. Get over yourself and find a synthesis thread to play in.

[plfranke]

Bill Casey wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

Those people are touting and celebrating utterly disgusting and indefensible ideologies...

This. Bill Casey is a BSN hero.

[Xilizhra]

I don't think that's an accurate description of all ITers. If there was someone who was doing that I'd say it's because you guys are wrong. Personally, I couldn't care less about proving you guys wrong, but you're wrong and IT is right there's no in between. So that's the way I feel about it, I don't think there's any need for a "everything is a valid interperetation" anyone who believes in the literal ending is just wrong.

So your hypothesis here is that Bioware will definitely release an ending canonizing IT, yes?

Those people are touting and celebrating utterly disgusting and indefensible ideologies...

Oh no, opinions!

Modifié par Xilizhra, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:12 .

[masster blaster]

Xilizhra wrote...

I don't think that's an accurate description of all ITers. If there was someone who was doing that I'd say it's because you guys are wrong. Personally, I couldn't care less about proving you guys wrong, but you're wrong and IT is right there's no in between. So that's the way I feel about it, I don't think there's any need for a "everything is a valid interperetation" anyone who believes in the literal ending is just wrong.

So your hypothesis here is that Bioware will definitely release an ending canonizing IT, yes?

Those people are touting and celebrating utterly disgusting and indefensible ideologies...

Oh no, opinions!

depends, and what about " Synthesis"?

[ZerebusPrime]

Xilizhra wrote...

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

When it brings enlightenment, yes.

[spotlessvoid]

Look, I don't go in synthesis threads starting crap. But if I'm in a thread dedicated to IT DLC that gets bombarded with "derp derp IT sucks" then yeah, I'm going to point out how deluded and oblivious they are to both Mass Effect and real life.

I don't need you to like me or agree with me. I find you annoying and would rather never see another one of your posts again. That is all

[Bill Casey]

What do you think would happen if you went on another forum and espoused your desire to forcibly transhumanize the planet so people will stop fighting eachother and get along?

I doubt it would go down as well as discussing the atom bomb drops in WWII or even the merits of totalitatiranism...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:18 .

[Xilizhra]

Look, I don't go in synthesis threads starting crap.

Blame masster blaster for starting that one.

But if I'm in a thread dedicated to IT DLC that gets bombarded with "derp derp IT sucks" then yeah, I'm going to point out how deluded and oblivious they are to both Mass Effect and real life.

All I'm asking here is your hypothesis. I'm assuming that it's that Bioware will release IT DLC that canonizes Destroy as the only valid ending. Is this correct?

[masster blaster]

Xilizhra wrote...

Look, I don't go in synthesis threads starting crap.

Blame masster blaster for starting that one.

But if I'm in a thread dedicated to IT DLC that gets bombarded with "derp derp IT sucks" then yeah, I'm going to point out how deluded and oblivious they are to both Mass Effect and real life.

All I'm asking here is your hypothesis. I'm assuming that it's that Bioware will release IT DLC that canonizes Destroy as the only valid ending. Is this correct?

I said this was between you and me.

[Heimdall]

Bill Casey wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

There's something I don't quite get about IT. Or rather, its fanbase.

It's fine that you enjoy your own theories, of course. But you seem to want to actively prove anyone who chose a different ending from you wrong, and ensure that their entire game has been screwed up. Is that really productive or helpful?

Those people are touting and celebrating utterly disgusting and indefensible ideologies...

I accept your opinion and respectfully disagree with it.

Is it so hard to do the same?

[ZerebusPrime]

Validation may or may not come in the form of a DLC.  It is our HOPE that it comes in a DLC or Dragon Age: Awakening style expansion.  It may yet come in the form of Mass Effect 4 or 5 or a writer's admission.

Or it may not come at all.

[Xilizhra]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Validation may or may not come in the form of a DLC.  It is our HOPE that it comes in a DLC or Dragon Age: Awakening style expansion.  It may yet come in the form of Mass Effect 4 or 5 or a writer's admission.

Or it may not come at all.

So what would your plan be if IT is never validated at all, and is thus discredited by the rest of the ME series?

[masster blaster]

Xilizhra wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Validation may or may not come in the form of a DLC.  It is our HOPE that it comes in a DLC or Dragon Age: Awakening style expansion.  It may yet come in the form of Mass Effect 4 or 5 or a writer's admission.

Or it may not come at all.

So what would your plan be if IT is never validated at all, and is thus discredited by the rest of the ME series?

I said this was between you and me, and not them. go back to your thread, and checked what I said. I said " This has nothing to do with the ITers, just you, and me/all Synthesis supporters.

[ZerebusPrime]

Xilizhra wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Validation may or may not come in the form of a DLC.  It is our HOPE that it comes in a DLC or Dragon Age: Awakening style expansion.  It may yet come in the form of Mass Effect 4 or 5 or a writer's admission.

Or it may not come at all.

So what would your plan be if IT is never validated at all, and is thus discredited by the rest of the ME series?

I have yet to see discreditment and will drop the IT if I ever do.

Obviously, if years start going by I'll have moved on to another game.  I will still likely believe the IT, though.

[Sauron001]

Xilizhra wrote...

But if I'm in a thread dedicated to IT DLC that gets bombarded with "derp derp IT sucks" then yeah, I'm going to point out how deluded and oblivious they are to both Mass Effect and real life.

All I'm asking here is your hypothesis. I'm assuming that it's that Bioware will release IT DLC that canonizes Destroy as the only valid ending. Is this correct?

Not at all in order to keep with the open story they would have to make shepard wake up.....but I'm strongly against Synthesis because even realisticly it makes absolutely no since and near impossible to just alter everyone's genetic make-up and make them part synthetic.

The point of the ME universe is that a large part of it is feasible in our galaxy and not just space magic cough**

[Restrider]

@ plfranke
As someone stated earlier:
Bioware had this idea to trick the players and see what happens. What they got is real-life indoctrination of a considerable part of the community which is refusing to take into account any advise from those who have a different opinion. They believe that what they did was the salvation to the galaxy (Synthesis supporters) or that under their rule as Harpard (Control supporters) the galaxy will find itself in a new golden era.
Especially frightening is Savial(?). IF Control would have to be taken literally, imagine the freedom you'd have in such a galaxy with him embodying the collective will of the reapers. Everyone disagreeing with him on some interpretation of the game Galaxy of Fantasy would be turned into a husk.

[Xilizhra]

I said this was between you and me, and not them. go back to your thread, and checked what I said. I said " This has nothing to do with the ITers, just you, and me/all Synthesis supporters.

And this is a different question.

I have yet to see discreditment and will drop the IT if I ever do.

So what would you qualify as such?

[Heimdall]

Restrider wrote...

@ plfranke
As someone stated earlier:
Bioware had this idea to trick the players and see what happens. What they got is real-life indoctrination of a considerable part of the community which is refusing to take into account any advise from those who have a different opinion. They believe that what they did was the salvation to the galaxy (Synthesis supporters) or that under their rule as Harpard (Control supporters) the galaxy will find itself in a new golden era.
Especially frightening is Savial(?). IF Control would have to be taken literally, imagine the freedom you'd have in such a galaxy with him embodying the collective will of the reapers. Everyone disagreeing with him on some interpretation of the game Galaxy of Fantasy would be turned into a husk.

...You really think they're that clever?

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Restrider wrote...

@ plfranke
As someone stated earlier:
Bioware had this idea to trick the players and see what happens. What they got is real-life indoctrination of a considerable part of the community which is refusing to take into account any advise from those who have a different opinion. They believe that what they did was the salvation to the galaxy (Synthesis supporters) or that under their rule as Harpard (Control supporters) the galaxy will find itself in a new golden era.
Especially frightening is Savial(?). IF Control would have to be taken literally, imagine the freedom you'd have in such a galaxy with him embodying the collective will of the reapers. Everyone disagreeing with him on some interpretation of the game Galaxy of Fantasy would be turned into a husk.

...You really think they're that clever?

Ya I do, and so do many others, but you don't.