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[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

Restrider wrote...

@ plfranke
As someone stated earlier:
Bioware had this idea to trick the players and see what happens. What they got is real-life indoctrination of a considerable part of the community which is refusing to take into account any advise from those who have a different opinion. They believe that what they did was the salvation to the galaxy (Synthesis supporters) or that under their rule as Harpard (Control supporters) the galaxy will find itself in a new golden era.
Especially frightening is Savial(?). IF Control would have to be taken literally, imagine the freedom you'd have in such a galaxy with him embodying the collective will of the reapers. Everyone disagreeing with him on some interpretation of the game Galaxy of Fantasy would be turned into a husk.

...You really think they're that clever?

Ya I do, and so do many others, but you don't.

Clearly

I think you're desperatedly trying to give Bioware much more credit than they deserve. Its a bit sad. 

[spotlessvoid]

You can keep your synthesis proselytizing out of the IT thread. Like the one about IT DLC. I'm not trying to convince you. I respect your right to have an opinion. But my opinion is that your opinion is completely retarded. I really don't care what you think. I don't respect what you think, only your right to think what you want. So please, just leave.

[plfranke]

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

[masster blaster]

plfranke wrote...

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

+1

[Xilizhra]

You can keep your synthesis proselytizing out of the IT thread. Like the one about IT DLC. I'm not trying to convince you. I respect your right to have an opinion. But my opinion is that your opinion is completely retarded. I really don't care what you think. I don't respect what you think, only your right to think what you want. So please, just leave.

I'm not a Synthesis proselytizer. My current preference is Control. I'm just trying to figure you people out, and why you want to totally destroy two other endings.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

So, someone choosing to not commit genocide in the ending is like committing galactic rape IRL?

[spotlessvoid]

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

[ZerebusPrime]

Xilizhra wrote...

I have yet to see discreditment and will drop the IT if I ever do.

So what would you qualify as such?

There are a range of possibilities.  A sequel based on Control or Synthesis would certainly do it. 

[ThisOneIsPunny]

Lord Aesir wrote...
I think you're desperatedly trying to give Bioware much more credit than they deserve. Its a bit sad. 

There's no reason for you to stick around in this thread or forum, then.

Kindly leave and waste your time elsewhere.

[Restrider]

I am out for today.
Again, I will remind you of the second poll. Right now Breath Scene and Leviathan are having the same support!
Spread the word.
On a different note:
@MB Don't get my post on the Synthesis thread too harsh, I was just caught in the moment and angry to see the IT thread get invaded by them. But the part with the links was serious, if you post the list, make sure the links are there, too. The links is what gives the list the real impact.

[Xilizhra]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

[masster blaster]

Restrider wrote...

I am out for today.
Again, I will remind you of the second poll. Right now Breath Scene and Leviathan are having the same support!
Spread the word.
On a different note:
@MB Don't get my post on the Synthesis thread too harsh, I was just caught in the moment and angry to see the IT thread get invaded by them. But the part with the links was serious, if you post the list, make sure the links are there, too. The links is what gives the list the real impact.

true, I just forgot to relink them, but I did enough for one day.

[masster blaster]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

Yes live a life in wonderland, then face reality in ME.

[ZerebusPrime]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

Point to Xilizhra.

If IT gets confirmed, then metagaming kills what was supposed to be the climax of the game.

...which is also why it will likely be some time before we get confirmation or discreditment.

[Restrider]

masster blaster wrote...

Restrider wrote...

I am out for today.
Again, I will remind you of the second poll. Right now Breath Scene and Leviathan are having the same support!
Spread the word.
On a different note:
@MB Don't get my post on the Synthesis thread too harsh, I was just caught in the moment and angry to see the IT thread get invaded by them. But the part with the links was serious, if you post the list, make sure the links are there, too. The links is what gives the list the real impact.

true, I just forgot to relink them, but I did enough for one day.

In any case, just use the link in my signature. One link, showing them the list on this thread. Easier for you and easier for them.
I am out. AND DON'T FORGET TO VOTE  !

[Heimdall]

plfranke wrote...

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

None of this is real, hombre.  relax.

I interpret synthesis differently than you do, and by no means consider it even remotedly comparable to galactic rape.  Clearly you do.  Why can't we agree that we have different interpretations?

We both know that I will never convince you the ITers are grasping at straws and you will never convince me that Bioware committed an act of clever deception instead of poor writing.

So why do you persist?

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

plfranke wrote...

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

None of this is real, hombre.  relax.

I interpret synthesis differently than you do, and by no means consider it even remotedly comparable to galactic rape.  Clearly you do.  Why can't we agree that we have different interpretations?

We both know that I will never convince you the ITers are grasping at straws and you will never convince me that Bioware committed an act of clever deception instead of poor writing.

So why do you persist?

Because we say go to hell Reapers, and not befriend them.

[Heimdall]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

Point to Xilizhra.

If IT gets confirmed, then metagaming kills what was supposed to be the climax of the game.

...which is also why it will likely be some time before we get confirmation or discreditment.

I don't think we'll get either, in all honesty.  I think Bioware likes the interest IT keeps in the game

[spotlessvoid]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

 u mad you made the wrong one?

[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

plfranke wrote...

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

None of this is real, hombre.  relax.

I interpret synthesis differently than you do, and by no means consider it even remotedly comparable to galactic rape.  Clearly you do.  Why can't we agree that we have different interpretations?

We both know that I will never convince you the ITers are grasping at straws and you will never convince me that Bioware committed an act of clever deception instead of poor writing.

So why do you persist?

Because we say go to hell Reapers, and not befriend them.

Good for you, why can't you let us bask in the knowledge of a million advanced species and cultures long thought lost in peace while you do that?  <_<

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:45 .

[Xilizhra]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

 u mad you made the wrong one?

The game isn't over until it's over. As of now, my Shepard has no reason to believe in being indoctrinated. If an IT DLC comes out, she then will. Either way, I'm fine.

[masster blaster]

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

plfranke wrote...

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

None of this is real, hombre.  relax.

I interpret synthesis differently than you do, and by no means consider it even remotedly comparable to galactic rape.  Clearly you do.  Why can't we agree that we have different interpretations?

We both know that I will never convince you the ITers are grasping at straws and you will never convince me that Bioware committed an act of clever deception instead of poor writing.

So why do you persist?

Because we say go to hell Reapers, and not befriend them.

Good for you, why can't you let us bask in the knowledge of a million advanced species and cultures long thought lost in peace while you do that?  <_<

At least we make OUR own future, and not live in fear. Also at least we didn't help the Reapers, you do. We kill Reapers you save Reapers. Simple as that.

[masster blaster]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

Also, what are you literalist going to so when your theory is discredited?

Be reassured that I don't need to worry about making hard choices for the ending anymore.

 u mad you made the wrong one?

The game isn't over until it's over. As of now, my Shepard has no reason to believe in being indoctrinated. If an IT DLC comes out, she then will. Either way, I'm fine.

And if it does, I wonder if your Shepard would kill your LI for your Shepard.

[byne]

Xilizhra wrote...

The game isn't over until it's over. As of now, my Shepard has no reason to believe in being indoctrinated. If an IT DLC comes out, she then will. Either way, I'm fine.

if your Shepard suspected she was being indoctrinated, it'd ruin the whole thing. The Reapers rely on their thralls not realizing they're indoctrinated.

[Heimdall]

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

plfranke wrote...

They were clever enough to get you guys to believe in the Reaper's motives by simply replacing a conversation with Harbinger with a kid.

Anything that explains all the problems with the ending listed in various IT sources would qualify as discrediting IT.

Yes it is impossible for us to just say "We agree to disagree". That's like a dictator coming around and commiting galactic rape and if someone tries to tell him it's wrong, he says "I agree to disagree with you guys. "Can't you do the same and just let me continue what I'm doing?"

None of this is real, hombre.  relax.

I interpret synthesis differently than you do, and by no means consider it even remotedly comparable to galactic rape.  Clearly you do.  Why can't we agree that we have different interpretations?

We both know that I will never convince you the ITers are grasping at straws and you will never convince me that Bioware committed an act of clever deception instead of poor writing.

So why do you persist?

Because we say go to hell Reapers, and not befriend them.

Good for you, why can't you let us bask in the knowledge of a million advanced species and cultures long thought lost in peace while you do that?  <_<

At least we make OUR own future, and not live in fear. Also at least we didn't help the Reapers, you do. We kill Reapers you save Reapers. Simple as that.

  I'm not sure what I have to be afraid of.  My character died for what she believed in.  She was not a coward.  The death of a Reaper is the loss of an entire species forever.  A Reaper preserved and befriended on our terms is an incredible asset.  So I'm not really sure what you sought to accomplish by this statement.

[Xilizhra]

And if it does, I wonder if your Shepard would kill your LI for your Shepard.

What?

At least we make OUR own future, and not live in fear. Also at least we didn't help the Reapers, you do. We kill Reapers you save Reapers. Simple as that.

Yes, you just killed trillions of enslaved memories of past cycles. Maybe quadrillions. Congratulations.

if your Shepard suspected she was being indoctrinated, it'd ruin the
whole thing. The Reapers rely on their thralls not realizing they're
indoctrinated.

I'll realize I'm indoctrinated if I turn out to be indoctrinated. I've already decided on this.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 07 octobre 2012 - 10:53 .