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[BatmanTurian]

Seival's back. ugh.

http://social.biowar...833/12#14398318

[paxxton]

AresKeith wrote...

Anybody else creeped out by Seival?

What did he do this time?

EDIT: LOL. I guess now that Seival is going on a reporting crusade most of us will be banned permanently cause there are many off-topic posts in our thread.

Modifié par paxxton, 08 octobre 2012 - 12:13 .

[Arashi08]

spotlessvoid wrote...

It's the lie you tell yourself

That's right!   But it isn't technically the right answer lol.

What I mean is, what you said is true, and it works within the context of the answer, but it isn't the answer that I'm referring to.  But you are definitely on the right track.

It is a lie you tell yourself, but it is a lie that was told to you first.  But at the same time the first time this lie was uttered was probably by one or more persons trying to convince themselves of it.

[ZerebusPrime]

End of the first matrix...

The first matrix failed because there was no "choice" allowed, IIRC.  So the machines added the illusion of choice.

EDIT: And underlying the illusion was a real choice: to accept the Matrix or to rebel against the machines' solution..

Modifié par ZerebusPrime, 08 octobre 2012 - 12:14 .

[BatmanTurian]

anyway, I'm out to go play some more MP.

[Dwailing]

SwobyJ wrote...

It's all an effing dream anyway.

Reading the game's dialogue script, it is now clear to me that Bioware all but bashes our heads over with this idea.

Not a dream.  Indoctrination hallucination.  Please don't confuse the two.  A dream implies that your decisions don't matter.  They do matter.  Ergo, it is not a dream.

[Rankincountry]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Seival's back. ugh.

http://social.biowar...833/12#14398318

This is why I now avoid other threads. Some people are taking the lotsofspeculationsforeveryone way too seriously.

[Arashi08]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...


And now for a riddle (sort of) for everyone.

What is the greatest lie ever told?

Sorry I know that other stuff was important but this got my attention..

pie?
You are unique?
Jurassic Park 4?
42!?

 lol I knew I'd get some good answers , but none of the above. 

It is actually a pretty important lie tho.  it could very well be the reason why people get so upset or defensive over these things and many others.  but I'm just trying to see if it is actually true for this situation as well.

Truth?  I am kind of beat dead tired right now
But by no means don't tell us the answer until someone gets it haha I don't want to ruin the riddle

sorry but nope.   And don't worry I don't plan to giving it away right now, but I think it is relevant to the topic in a broad sense.  It's a riddle because the answer is obvious but you have to look beyond your preconceptions to see it.  You have to think outside the box and all that.
I'll reveal it if someone gets it right, enough people give up or ask me to tell them, or maybe if people get bored with it lol.  Still it is an important riddle and imo relevant to IT at least a little bit.

[Cyberfrog81]

Destroy (assuming it's literally happening) wipes out the geth. They
were synthetics before they had Reaper code. And as synthetics, Destroy
(somehow, through the Crucible's wonderful magic) kills them. Yes, we can
re-invent synthetics but for the moment, they are gone. That's the literal ending. I'm not saying I like it, but it is definitely implied (if not outright shown) that the geth are absent from the post-Destroy galactic community.

Sauron001 wrote...

I still don't see how destroy is influenced by the reapers.

They prefer Destroy to being rejected by His Awesomeness the Shepard. A little odd, that.

They want you to use the Crucible... so maybe not using the Crucible is the correct choice.

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

These last few hours made me feel even better about IT. I've been laughing so hard I'm cramping up. Phew.

Me too.

Jesus, some of the attitudes in here are so pitiful I nearly want see the thread trolled harder.

[Rankincountry]

Dwailing wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

It's all an effing dream anyway.

Reading the game's dialogue script, it is now clear to me that Bioware all but bashes our heads over with this idea.

Not a dream.  Indoctrination hallucination.  Please don't confuse the two.  A dream implies that your decisions don't matter.  They do matter.  Ergo, it is not a dream.

The interesting question is, assuming we get ME4 or post breath DLC/expansion, exactly how it will play out. I do agree about the level of foreshadowing. Leviathan being the biggest bash over the head of all.

[PsiMatrix]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Or its both!  Which is actually closer to what I beleive...but things usually go better when you give people a choice.

[masster blaster]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

Destroy (assuming it's literally happening) wipes out the geth. They
were synthetics before they had Reaper code. And as synthetics, Destroy
(somehow, through the Crucible's wonderful magic) kills them. Yes, we can
re-invent synthetics but for the moment, they are gone. That's the literal ending. I'm not saying I like it, but it is definitely implied (if not outright shown) that the geth are absent from the post-Destroy galactic community.

Sauron001 wrote...

I still don't see how destroy is influenced by the reapers.

They prefer Destroy to being rejected by His Awesomeness the Shepard. A little odd, that.

They want you to use the Crucible... so maybe not using the Crucible is the correct choice.

masster blaster wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

These last few hours made me feel even better about IT. I've been laughing so hard I'm cramping up. Phew.

Me too.

Jesus, some of the attitudes in here are so pitiful I nearly want see the thread trolled harder.

I don't mean that, but I have always tried to call everyone down, but no more.  Also they are not, have you even been here for the last 6months. No you haven't, have you read EVERYThing we have found/ comed up with. No, or maybe you have. Do we have the right to be a little tense yes, are our attitudes suck, no. So stick around and wait for a bit. Your view will chnage.

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 12:21 .

[cavs25]

Completely off topic but doesn't anyone else find it weird that Mac Walters and Casey Hudson
haven't been seen since the whole ending controversy? There were fans that went overboard with the threats and stuff but most people have gotten over it by now. I checked their twitters and the last tweet from hudson was on March 17 and Walters was May 5th. Did this guys just give up on promoting since the game has been out for a long time now, or are they hiding from the fans who are still angry? (Most likely) Or are they working and future stuff right now?
Just wanted to get your opinion since it looks like there is still hope on IT DLC.

[Dwailing]

Rankincountry wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

It's all an effing dream anyway.

Reading the game's dialogue script, it is now clear to me that Bioware all but bashes our heads over with this idea.

Not a dream.  Indoctrination hallucination.  Please don't confuse the two.  A dream implies that your decisions don't matter.  They do matter.  Ergo, it is not a dream.

The interesting question is, assuming we get ME4 or post breath DLC/expansion, exactly how it will play out. I do agree about the level of foreshadowing. Leviathan being the biggest bash over the head of all.

I still say that BioWare actually CONFIRMED that the ending is, if nothing else, Leviathan enthrallment being performed by Harbinger.  Chris Priestly said that parts of the ending are made from Shepard's memories.  Then, they release Leviathan, and Leviathan says these words, "You're memories give shape to our words. (I believe that's the quote)"  Coincidence?  I doubt it. 

[ZerebusPrime]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

End of the first matrix...

The first matrix failed because there was no "choice" allowed, IIRC.  So the machines added the illusion of choice.

EDIT: And underlying the illusion was a real choice: to accept the Matrix or to rebel against the machines' solution..

Pardon my continued rambling.  Please bear with me for a moment.

The trouble with the first matrix is that there was no choice involved.  It forced compliance and people kept trying to wake up from it.

So then the machines make the second matrix and add in the illusion of choice to bring the masses under control.

I think we can draw a tenuous parallel with the end of the first matrix and the confrontation with the Illusive Man (the Reapers attempt to control our actions and we ultimately reject it) and the onset of the second matrix and the decision chamber.

Huh.  I don't know why I felt compelled to post this, but it seems like a plausible explanation for the Final Hours tidbit about the end of the first matrix.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Cyberfrog81 wrote...

Lol even though your post is full of plain failure, your avatar is pure win.
Don't make me regret feeding you

[Dwailing]

cavs25 wrote...

Completely off topic but doesn't anyone else find it weird that Mac Walters and Casey Hudson
haven't been seen since the whole ending controversy? There were fans that went overboard with the threats and stuff but most people have gotten over it by now. I checked their twitters and the last tweet from hudson was on March 17 and Walters was May 5th. Did this guys just give up on promoting since the game has been out for a long time now, or are they hiding from the fans who are still angry? (Most likely) Or are they working and future stuff right now?
Just wanted to get your opinion since it looks like there is still hope on IT DLC.

I know they did an interview about the Extended Cut right before it was released, but apart from that, they haven't said anything about ME3

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

End of the first matrix...

The first matrix failed because there was no "choice" allowed, IIRC.  So the machines added the illusion of choice.

EDIT: And underlying the illusion was a real choice: to accept the Matrix or to rebel against the machines' solution..

Pardon my continued rambling.  Please bear with me for a moment.

The trouble with the first matrix is that there was no choice involved.  It forced compliance and people kept trying to wake up from it.

So then the machines make the second matrix and add in the illusion of choice to bring the masses under control.

I think we can draw a tenuous parallel with the end of the first matrix and the confrontation with the Illusive Man (the Reapers attempt to control our actions and we ultimately reject it) and the onset of the second matrix and the decision chamber.

Huh.  I don't know why I felt compelled to post this, but it seems like a plausible explanation for the Final Hours tidbit about the end of the first matrix.

Heh, yeah unfortunately the Matrix has been analysed since before ME

[Dwailing]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

End of the first matrix...

The first matrix failed because there was no "choice" allowed, IIRC.  So the machines added the illusion of choice.

EDIT: And underlying the illusion was a real choice: to accept the Matrix or to rebel against the machines' solution..

Pardon my continued rambling.  Please bear with me for a moment.

The trouble with the first matrix is that there was no choice involved.  It forced compliance and people kept trying to wake up from it.

So then the machines make the second matrix and add in the illusion of choice to bring the masses under control.

I think we can draw a tenuous parallel with the end of the first matrix and the confrontation with the Illusive Man (the Reapers attempt to control our actions and we ultimately reject it) and the onset of the second matrix and the decision chamber.

Huh.  I don't know why I felt compelled to post this, but it seems like a plausible explanation for the Final Hours tidbit about the end of the first matrix.

Wow, that actually IS rather plausible.  I like.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Dwailing wrote...

cavs25 wrote...

Completely off topic but doesn't anyone else find it weird that Mac Walters and Casey Hudson
haven't been seen since the whole ending controversy? There were fans that went overboard with the threats and stuff but most people have gotten over it by now. I checked their twitters and the last tweet from hudson was on March 17 and Walters was May 5th. Did this guys just give up on promoting since the game has been out for a long time now, or are they hiding from the fans who are still angry? (Most likely) Or are they working and future stuff right now?
Just wanted to get your opinion since it looks like there is still hope on IT DLC.

I know they did an interview about the Extended Cut right before it was released, but apart from that, they haven't said anything about ME3

@cavs that is wrong cause I remember one of them dropping the f-bomb earlier this month and addressing CleverNoob this week

[D.Sharrah]

cavs25 wrote...

Completely off topic but doesn't anyone else find it weird that Mac Walters and Casey Hudson
haven't been seen since the whole ending controversy? There were fans that went overboard with the threats and stuff but most people have gotten over it by now. I checked their twitters and the last tweet from hudson was on March 17 and Walters was May 5th. Did this guys just give up on promoting since the game has been out for a long time now, or are they hiding from the fans who are still angry? (Most likely) Or are they working and future stuff right now?
Just wanted to get your opinion since it looks like there is still hope on IT DLC.

Bolded is my bet.  And I am not so sure that there will a specifc IT DLC, but I think that all the DLC will tie all the loose strings together for a reveal of some kind...for those of us that have been here at this thread, it will simply be "I knew it" moment...for those that don't believe it might be more of a "Wow" moment...

[shepskisaac]

cavs25 wrote...

Completely off topic but doesn't anyone else find it weird that Mac Walters and Casey Hudson
haven't been seen since the whole ending controversy? There were fans that went overboard with the threats and stuff but most people have gotten over it by now. I checked their twitters and the last tweet from hudson was on March 17 and Walters was May 5th. Did this guys just give up on promoting since the game has been out for a long time now, or are they hiding from the fans who are still angry? (Most likely) Or are they working and future stuff right now?
Just wanted to get your opinion since it looks like there is still hope on IT DLC.

Idiot fans were sending them vulgar insults on twitter for MONTHS after the game released. HTL forums still insult them on a daily basis and they're proud of doing it and get all confused when they're questioned on it.

Are you surprised they disappeared? I'm glad they did, they didn't deserve experiencing how idiotic and immature somw fans are. But in any case, Mac Walters will be at NYCC this week and Edmonton Comic & Extertainment Expo later this month.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 08 octobre 2012 - 12:36 .

[Cyberfrog81]

masster blaster wrote...

I don't mean that, but I have always tried to call everyone down, but no more.  Also they are not, have you even been here for the last 6months.

I've opened the "IT thread" weekly, in periods daily. But then I always saw someone being unreasonable and gave up on you guys. For a day or two or five.

No you haven't, have you read EVERYThing we have found/ comed up with. No, or maybe you have. Do we have the right to be a little tense yes, are our attitudes suck, no. So stick around and wait for a bit. Your view will chnage.

Sorry, but when I see people being labled idiots or worse for disagreeing with the IT interpretation... that does suck. And it makes you a crowd I don't want to be a part of.