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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

@SwobyJ I hear what your saying, it would explain TIM's conflicting dogmas


Yep.

Cerberus are still 'bad guys'. TIM is very compromised to the Reapers, if not directly (because if the ending is a dream, then we have no proof the Reapers outright control TIM), but exposure to Reaper tech compromised his morality and ideals.

But Omega DLC may illustrate how their plans are still ESSENTIAL towards the galaxy EVADING this cycle. With this, Shepard himself will BREAK the cycle and ensure it never happens again.

Control is always ruinous, but contains actions that may lead toward victory. In that way, it can be the corrupted form of Paragon.
Destroy is always terrible and contains much collateral, but it provides the immediate solution to growing problems. In that way, it can be seen as the corrupted form of Renegade.

Shepard is always the hero, except he dies in Refuse, and I believe he truly effs up in Synthesis.
But Control offers a chance to succeed, even with a very dark shadow over the choice.
And Destroy is always shown to be the most immidiately proper choice for Shepard to take when facing the Reapers directly.


EDIT: By 'evade' the Cycle, I mean 'evade Reaper manipulation of the Cycle'.
'Evading the Cycle' also includes things like what the Prothian scientists do on Ilos. They do things that enable Shepard to do things that will break the Cycle.

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Ok I was inspired by this video of a crucible  it reminded me of the crucible being built and decided to post all of this below.
First up the War assets and a brief explanation with some real life science background supporting why I think this (except for the suppositions and anything else I didn't explain).  Then an overall summary and a crude demo via another game I love that does something similar.

War Assets for the Crucible
Haptic Optics Array
The Haptics Optics Array is an experimental computer user interface, Cortical implants allow users to "see" screens projected in front of them. A user's eye movements are tracked, syncing to hand gestures as they sift through data.
EDIT – Targeting Sensors to aim at reapers remotely

Interferometric Array
Normally interferometric arrays are used to analyze planetary landmasses, or to determine the astrophysical properties of stellar systems. The powerful array salvaged from the Hercules system can be used for something much more ambitious: the Crucible tunes into the mass relays' command switches. Installing the interferometric array into the Crucible's systems results in a real-time map of the entire galaxy, including the position of each and every Reaper in the Milky Way.
EDIT – Real life science - astronomical interferometer where the individual telescopes seen as parts of a fractionated spacecraft are positioned in a spherical arrangement (requiring the individual telescopes to be positioned to a fraction of a wavelength). This geometry reduces the amount of pathlength compensation required in re-pointing the interferometer array Using this spherical geometry of array elements and using a densified pupil beam combiner, and calls this his "Hypertelescope" project. It might theoretically show features on Earth-like worlds around other sun.
This is why the Crucible has that big sphere
Optimized Eezo Capacitors
Dreadnought-class drive capacitors use specialized eezo-based compounds to channel and store thermal energy with greater efficiency than previous designs.
EDIT – Improves efficiency of design to store more energy for a bigger boom
Shadow Broker Starship Tech
The ship ingeniously drew its power from the thunderstorms raging constantly on the planet it orbited, relying on an interlocking system of kinetic barriers, grounding rods and capacitors to avoid being ripped apart. These systems have repurposed for sections of the Crucible that require the safe discharge of tremendous amounts of energy.
EDIT – A grounding device to not cause the crucible/citadel to go boom with electrical discharges and a ship full of impure eezo.
Advanced Starship Fuel
 Helium-3 is used to power the vast majority of commercial starships. Chemical engineers on Cyone added experiment mixtures of compounds to the gas to make a more efficient fuel for ships traveling long distances. One of their new formulas is used in ships transporting major loads of materials to the Crucible, speeding up the building process.
EDIT – Used in part as fuel for ships but used in part to create helium 4 – real life science bit - Fermionic condensates As the name suggests, a superfluid possesses fluid properties similar to those possessed by ordinary liquids and gases, such as the lack of a definite shape and the ability to flow in response to applied forces. However, superfluids possess some properties that do not appear in ordinary matter. For instance, they can flow at low velocities without dissipating any energy—i.e. zero viscosity. At higher velocities, energy is dissipated by the formation of quantized vortices, which act as "holes" in the medium where superfluidity breaks down.
More real life science - Superfluidity was originally discovered in liquid helium-4 - When liquid helium-4 is cooled to below 2.17 Kelvin (–271 °C) it becomes a superfluid, with properties that are very unlike those of an ordinary liquid. For example, if superfluid helium-4 is kept in an open vessel, a thin film will climb up the sides of the vessel and overflow. In this state and situation, it is called a "Rollin film"
As in many other systems, vortices can exist in BECs. These can be created, for example, by 'stirring' the condensate with lasers, or rotating the confining trap. The vortex created will be a quantum vortex. A principal property of superconductors is that they expel magnetic fields; this is called the Meissner effect. If the magnetic field becomes sufficiently strong, one scenario is for the superconductive state to be "quenched" (TURNED OFF). However, in some cases, it may be energetically favorable for the superconductor to form a lattice of quantum vortices, which carry quantized magnetic flux through the superconductor.
Any perfect conductor will prevent any change to magnetic flux passing through its surface due to ordinary electromagnetic induction at zero resistance. The Meissner effect is distinct from this: when an ordinary conductor is cooled so that it makes the transition to a superconducting state in the presence of a constant applied magnetic field, the magnetic flux is expelled during the transition. It should thus be noted that the placement and subsequent levitation of a magnet above an already superconducting material does not demonstrate the Meissner effect, while an initially stationary magnet later being repelled by a superconductor as it is cooled through its critical temperature does.
Prothean Data Files
the Crucible's blueprints provided the key to understanding the equations. Locked inside the discs were theories on dark matter meant to be used with the Crucible's main power source.
Edit – Combining dark matter with eezo creates impurities. (supposition)
Jovian Dissertation
A brief glance at the data hints at some kind of energetic pulse that might pass through the magnetosphere of a planet unimpeded, but any details are best derived by high-energy physicists.
EDIT – Creating an energetic pulse that pushes the Javalin after it has been magnetized and is floating on the magnetic rails due to the previous stuff
Dark Energy Dissertation
Published years ago by Dr. Conrad Verner, this doctorial dissertation on xenotechnology is a lengthy but intriguing argument that dark energy causes a minute but empirically observable difference in the passage of time.
EDIT Speeds up the time dilation thus creates a chain cascade event making the javelin travel faster than it would have.  Plus when the Javelin explodes it releases dark energy causing another type of cascade to the barrier and possibly changing the location of the javelin upon hitting the actual Reaper when it goes boom (supposition)
 Javelin Missile Launchers
Developed by the Alliance, Javelin missiles release dark energy upon impact. This creates devastating space-time disruptions, magnified warp fields that strip away a target's molecular bonds. Even the strongest kinetic barriers will eventually collapse after multiple impacts from these rockets.
EDIT – An object that can be supercooled thus converted to superconductivity then when it hits a kinetic barrier, its dark energy and eezo combines causing a chain cascade reaction of accelerated time and disruption of magnetic properties of the kinetic barriers causing it to have a catastrophic collapse and puncture the Reaper ship. It takes more than one Javelins given Javelins are not big. Hence also why they are installing them on ships. Put dark matter/eezo javelins and fire them at Reapers you have something like a quantum torpedo from Star Trek
Element Zero Converter
Element zero refineries are large industrial facilities that remove impurities from the element, also called eezo, before it is used to fuel starships or gravity generators. It's an important process, as sending an electrical charge through impure eezo can cause the element to explode.
EDIT – HMM…superconductive EEZO? And when that charge goes off inside the Javelin after hitting its target, the eezo/dark matter core will explode, just after the kinetic barrier falls and just after reaching the Reaper itself (remember the time dilation of Dark Energy (supposition).

The point of the catalyst in ME 3 in my opinion is to allow the crucible to fire at the Reapers wherever they are without being affected by the Crucible's energies or the Citadel's energies. While we still don't know what the Catalyst is we can infer the purpose of the Crucible and Citadel interactions. In other words it uses the Citadel to create a stable mass relay between the Citadel and the front of a Reaper (remember the citadel’s job is the manage the mass relays not the Reapers themselves). It can do this thanks to the ease of targeting explained below. Once it has found its target, a Javalin is magnetically charged, sent down the barrel with zero resistance, enters the citadel’s mass relay exits in front of a Reaper, flies with still zero resistance slams into the kinetic barrier, causing the Javelin to send an electrical pulse through the impure eezo/dark matter substance at the same time as sending a dark energy blast through the Reaper’s barrier, collapsing it. The ensuing explosion happens shortly after what’s left of the exploding Javelin Reaches or enters the Reaper’s hull This video is a crude example but it works. Think of everything I just said above to do exactly this:
 Final Fantasy 7 Mako Cannon – The Reaper is the Weapon very far away. The targeting scanners for the gun is like the targeting I explained above, the kinetic barrier is like the barrier on the North Crater, the mako reactors is helium 4 being used to shoot, the shot itself is fired like a rail gun/mass driver, the explosion is the eezo/dark matter exploding, the disrupting barrier is via the dark energy and killing/damaging the Reaper at the same time.

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plfranke wrote...

So did anyone see my posts about TIM? I think they may have gotten lost in the literalist drama a few pages back.

I vote for a repost so I don't have to go digging :D

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Dwailing wrote...

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It's all an effing dream anyway.

Reading the game's dialogue script, it is now clear to me that Bioware all but bashes our heads over with this idea.


Not a dream.  Indoctrination hallucination.  Please don't confuse the two.  A dream implies that your decisions don't matter.  They do matter.  Ergo, it is not a dream.


The interesting question is, assuming we get ME4 or post breath DLC/expansion, exactly how it will play out. I do agree about the level of foreshadowing. Leviathan being the biggest bash over the head of all.


I still say that BioWare actually CONFIRMED that the ending is, if nothing else, Leviathan enthrallment being performed by Harbinger.  Chris Priestly said that parts of the ending are made from Shepard's memories.  Then, they release Leviathan, and Leviathan says these words, "You're memories give shape to our words. (I believe that's the quote)"  Coincidence?  I doubt it. 

Of course it's not a coincidence, it's all part of the story :lol:

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End of the first matrix...

The first matrix failed because there was no "choice" allowed, IIRC.  So the machines added the illusion of choice.

EDIT: And underlying the illusion was a real choice: to accept the Matrix or to rebel against the machines' solution..

That. Is. BRILLIANT.

The very first post I ever made on BSN was on the subject of the similarity between ME3 and the Matrix trilogy with regard to this scene, but I didn't think of the "first matrix" part of it in the same way that you did. Nice catch.



http://social.biowar.../index/11929257

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It is also possible that the Crucible isn't a trap, but instead a Leviathan long-game plan, waiting until the right cycle.

But even the Leviathans gave up 'hope' in it, which explains their behavior about it. There may also be another twist regarding it.

The Reapers may, just like they seem to do with any Leviathan method, be trying to convert it to their own purposes.

Shepard is instrumental in all of this.

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Ah don't worry Neb I got a little angey because I founded out that my Uncle had a stroke. I am just gald that he is okay.

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Basically I said that TIM's final lines in the renegade conversation are foreshadowing of what you would become after picking control and synthesis. "I saved humanity!". He talks about it in the past tense, not "I will save humanity." He's already convinced that he's done it. Also the line about Earth being perfect. You could compare it to what we see with the literalists who believe in control and synthesis. They believe they saved the galaxy when really they're just indoctrinated, or stupid or both.

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Haha bringing back the Mako :D

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plfranke wrote...

Basically I said that TIM's final lines in the renegade conversation are foreshadowing of what you would become after picking control and synthesis. "I saved humanity!". He talks about it in the past tense, not "I will save humanity." He's already convinced that he's done it. Also the line about Earth being perfect. You could compare it to what we see with the literalists who believe in control and synthesis. They believe they saved the galaxy when really they're just indoctrinated, or stupid or both.


Yeah I'm confused about the Citadel scene still.

While the Catalyst scene and the beam run scream 'illusion', it isn't so clear with the Anderson/TIM/Shepard trinity.

...if the Citadel scene isn't real, then TIM is somewhere else entirely.

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plfranke wrote...

Basically I said that TIM's final lines in the renegade conversation are foreshadowing of what you would become after picking control and synthesis. "I saved humanity!". He talks about it in the past tense, not "I will save humanity." He's already convinced that he's done it. Also the line about Earth being perfect. You could compare it to what we see with the literalists who believe in control and synthesis. They believe they saved the galaxy when really they're just indoctrinated, or stupid or both.


Yeah Timmy is definitely not indoctrinated and I can see why control supporters don't see him as foreshadowing anything. 

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Ah don't worry Neb I got a little angey because I founded out that my Uncle had a stroke. I am just gald that he is okay.

I'll pray for the both of you. I hope he stays in good health

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spotlessvoid wrote...

plfranke wrote...

Basically I said that TIM's final lines in the renegade conversation are foreshadowing of what you would become after picking control and synthesis. "I saved humanity!". He talks about it in the past tense, not "I will save humanity." He's already convinced that he's done it. Also the line about Earth being perfect. You could compare it to what we see with the literalists who believe in control and synthesis. They believe they saved the galaxy when really they're just indoctrinated, or stupid or both.


Yeah Timmy is definitely not indoctrinated and I can see why control supporters don't see him as foreshadowing anything. 

Maybe  there is another nugget of foreshadowing in there- In his last moments TIM saw himself vindicated, he saw the beauty and perfection of Earth and her people. Kinda similar to what Shep sees, except he wakes up...

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While the Catalyst scene and the beam run scream 'illusion', it isn't so clear with the Anderson/TIM/Shepard trinity.

...if the Citadel scene isn't real, then TIM is somewhere else entirely.

Presuumably Omega! Nah, but if that Citadel scene is real, than that would mean Shepard successfully entered the beam and onto the Citadel, and that seems unlikely. I believe the classic idea that it is the Indoctrinated influence vs. the Non-Indoctrinated influence battling in Shepards mind.

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That. Is. BRILLIANT.

The very first post I ever made on BSN was on the subject of the similarity between ME3 and the Matrix trilogy with regard to this scene, but I didn't think of the "first matrix" part of it in the same way that you did. Nice catch.



http://social.biowar.../index/11929257

Just to note, I subbed that thread, that was an awesome comparison.
I love how you mentioned Brave New World, people seem to only remember 1984

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My question is why does TIM want the Citadel before we EVEN here about the Catalyst, and why didn't he contact the Reapers in the first place?

I mean TIM had enough time to find out what was on the Archives, and he had more insite since he was Indoctrinated. Yet TIM trys to take Control of the Citadel inn the middle of the game, why!

He gains nothing, unless the Reapers want to shut down the Relay net work, and they needed TIM to do it for them. Speaking about the Relays, why doesn't the Reapers SHUT down the Relay net work?

It would have made their job very easy, yet they don't. Also remember in ME1 The Citadel was a trap, so what does it mean if the Citadel is the Catalyst. Think about it at first we thought the Citadel was the Catalyst, yet it was the Reaper Leader that was the Catalyst.

I find it hard that the Catalyst has the power to shut down the Crucibls energy. If it can, then it could have helped Nazar, and it could have overided the Citadel Control Panel.

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TIM was killed way too easily with one bullet... in ME2's shadow broker intel we read that he has a shield built into his clothes capable of stopping a shot at point blank range... so im sure that sheps gun would have had no effect on him at all...

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masster blaster wrote...

My question is why does TIM want the Citadel before we EVEN here about the Catalyst, and why didn't he contact the Reapers in the first place?

I mean TIM had enough time to find out what was on the Archives, and he had more insite since he was Indoctrinated. Yet TIM trys to take Control of the Citadel inn the middle of the game, why!

He gains nothing, unless the Reapers want to shut down the Relay net work, and they needed TIM to do it for them. Speaking about the Relays, why doesn't the Reapers SHUT down the Relay net work?

It would have made their job very easy, yet they don't. Also remember in ME1 The Citadel was a trap, so what does it mean if the Citadel is the Catalyst. Think about it at first we thought the Citadel was the Catalyst, yet it was the Reaper Leader that was the Catalyst.

I find it hard that the Catalyst has the power to shut down the Crucibls energy. If it can, then it could have helped Nazar, and it could have overided the Citadel Control Panel.


1st note being Indoctrinated does not give TIM more insight it limits it. Remember Benezia? She thought it was Saren, not Sovereign, ,in her head.

And I thought the Prothean failsafe prevented the shutdown of the Relay Network?

Haha and your only shooting more holes into the Swiss Cheese of Mass Effect

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TheWill wrote...

TIM was killed way too easily with one bullet... in ME2's shadow broker intel we read that he has a shield built into his clothes capable of stopping a shot at point blank range... so im sure that sheps gun would have had no effect on him at all...


a great point

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TheWill wrote...

TIM was killed way too easily with one bullet... in ME2's shadow broker intel we read that he has a shield built into his clothes capable of stopping a shot at point blank range... so im sure that sheps gun would have had no effect on him at all...

Unless he was'nt really there... DUN DUN DDUUNNNN =]

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Regarding TIM attacking the Citadel, I always found the idea more palatable if the attack was in fact a distraction to allow Cerberus to offload a cache of troops and heavy equipment onto the Citadel in anticipation of the Reapers taking the station over.  The Illusive Man would then wait for the right moment before traveling to the Citadel himself and setting up a trap to usurp control over the Crucible when it docked and then unleash his true master plan to control the Reapers.  Of course, this was back when we were thinking that the Crucible was itself a Reaper trap.  I wanted TIM to be able to turn the Reapers' own trap against them.

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masster blaster wrote...

My question is why does TIM want the Citadel before we EVEN here about the Catalyst, and why didn't he contact the Reapers in the first place?

I mean TIM had enough time to find out what was on the Archives, and he had more insite since he was Indoctrinated. Yet TIM trys to take Control of the Citadel inn the middle of the game, why!

He gains nothing, unless the Reapers want to shut down the Relay net work, and they needed TIM to do it for them. Speaking about the Relays, why doesn't the Reapers SHUT down the Relay net work?.

Maybe he found something in Omega? (No I have not become obsessed with Omega.) TIM had access to the collector base (Or it's remnants) and may have learned something about the Crucible. He probobly wanted to take Control of the Citadel to implement his plans for Control. Maybe he knew the Citadel was important, but didn't know it was the "Catalyst".

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Thewill yes that's true, and Anderson as well. Okay so Anderson dies from a side bullet, yet Shepard survives from a DIRECT HIT from Harbinger point blank. Ya It's a wonder if something in not right about the end game of ME3.

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NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

well people got tired of guessing, or just didn't care, quicker than i thought lol.
anyway I wanted to tell you the answer anyway since I feel it may be relevant to the topic, as well as the ridiculous "wars" we have going on over who is right and who isn't.

The greatest and most destructive lie ever told is:

We are separate.

I will elaborate on this but I want to hear other people's input first, If they are interested that is lol.

Ahhh. Good brain teaser. And I believe I see what you are getting at.

Thanks, and what is your interpretation if I may ask?  I'm interested in seeing what people think about this.  Also  How do you think it relates to the game?  I'm asking everyone who wants to answer of course.


Your riddle made me think of how the community was before ME3. People have diverged and have become entrenched in their ideals, yet we all are here because of Mass Effect. Kind of reminds me about the debates about "factions" by the American Founding Fathers.

I know, I know, this probably is'nt what you were expecting and really doesn't have anything to do with IT but you did ask what I though haha :)

Well you did nail one aspect of it.  Though to be fair I wasn't involved much on the threads until ME3s endings either.  I did lurk around two of the LOTSB threads during Pre-release of the DLC, but I don't remember if I actually typed anything lol.

But the riddle is also about some of the characters, namely the Reapers and TIM.  Te idea of Separation is also like the idea of superiority and inferiority.  Superiority and inferiority don't exist, at least not in the contect that TIM and the Reapers believe.

The Reapers believe themselves to be the "pinnacle of evolution."  and Sovereign and  Harbinger always prattle on about how superior they are, but dont the Reapers actually need organics to survive and reproduce?  more to the point, a "superior" being needs their "inferior" subjects to dominate over, otherwise they aren't so superior anymore are they?

It is alot like a tiger eating a deer.  The tiger is built to hunt and kill gazelle but does that make the Tiger a superior animal to the deer?  if a tiger ate all the deer (or all of its oher food sources as well) then would it not go hungry?  Conversely, if the tiger died out and the deer survived, they would overpopulate and eat all of their own food, thus being the instruments of their own demise.  The tiger is not superior to the deer because it needs the deer to live and the deer needs the tiger to live as well.  it is the necessary cycle of life.

Likewise, I think the Reapers need organics; not only to reproduce, but also to give them purpose.  Without organic life they have no reason to exist, probably one of the worst things imaginable to happen to a sentient being is to have no reason to live.  Therefore the Reapers are NOT superior beings, they are just giant ships built to kill and enslave things.  They truly are servants of the pattern.

TIM is similar, believing that humansshould be on top, not realizing that in the long run humans are no different than the other species of the galaxy.  they may all look different, have different anatomy and chemical structure and different cultures, but they are all sentient beings in the end, no more superior or inferior to one another.  That's also why I destroy the Reapers everytime.  Not necessarily because I hate them; I actally feel sorry for them:  So many civilizations melted down and reduced to a gestalt intellect controlled by the Starbrat because it thinks it knows better than the cycle of life itself how life should grow and evolve.  imo the Reapers are an affront to those undoubtedly beautiful civilizations  they had once been before they were "preserved"  and forced into mind-slavery.  The loss of the Geth and EDI is terrible, but at least they died fighting alongside the organics as equals against an oppressive, tyrranical force of collossal arrogance.  it doesn't make their sacrifice any less difficult, but if they died, they died as equals as real living beings with souls, like they should have been.  Rather than puppets of the Catalyst' agenda, like all species end up becoming under control and synthesis.  At least that's how it seemed presented to me.

This is also what I was kind of aiming at with the flaming and insulting over who's theory is better.  they are all just ideas, each with only circumstantial evidence at best to back them up.  what's the point of agruing over something if you aren't at least open to interpretation?  Both sides have to be willing to accept that their way of thinking regarding the endings may not be the ultimate plan of BioWare, but at the same time their ow thoughts and opinions are just as valid, for them at the very least.  no one has to agree if they don't want to.  but objective thinking has to be reintroduced if people ever plan to resume civility.

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why would we be provided with these almost useless in game facts and information if there ultimately was no use for them?

for those of us who remember these little snippets.. the idea of IT just keeps growing.

the last weird thing i saw in game was the c-sec logo during priority citadel..just before you get to c-sec headquarters...
the blue lit up logos on the wall represents the citadel and has a beam of light running down the middle of it.. exactly like the crucibles beam... take a look yourself and tell me im not imagining it...

now why would an image of that be on the wall