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[Jusseb]

I'm just waiting for Omega so i can do a playthrough with Leviathan and Omega in one run.

Also i don't see refuse as Shepard giving up actually. Together with Destroy they are the only two choices i chose within my playtroughs. And if the ending scenes aren't actually happening, then that also counts for the refuse ending scene.

It's about to see if Shepard actually destroy's the Reapers by shooting the tubes. Or as we think breaks free of indoctrination. Refuse could be just that, he could refuse that someone is messing with his mind and ****ing him up. 

The refuse ending misses the breath scene, but it could fit perfectly. 

They could be the two 'canon' choices. 

Modifié par Jusseb, 08 octobre 2012 - 02:30 .

[paxxton]

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[FFZero]

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

My reaction to MP's quality during Operation Overdrive.
http://www.youtube.c...Alq2Qn3Q#t=376s

EDIT: Listen to what the VI says about the Thorian and consider how similar it is to Leviathan. He describes the colonists as thralls and states that the Thorian views them as tools. I tell you there's a connection.

Was that the game that FFZero and I dragged you through? 

I was refering more to awful lags and warping, lost connections, being stuck on the join screen, dying even though I still had half the ring to go, double executions, double revivals, the shuttle hovering over the LZ for the whole mission.

I rather not remember that mission.  Couldn't stay alive for more than a couple of minutes. And it was supposed to be Silver? No way! I guess BioWare boosts regular difficulties on OP Sundays.  And it's not only me who noticed that.

I think you dying was more down to the fact you were playing a low level character Paxx, and the fact that we were on Condor, the worst map ever. Plus the Slayer is pretty weak for a Vanguard, it's like he's made out of tissue paper. But yeah there were some weird lagging issues this weekend and I was getting loads of glitches, weirdest of which was me not being able to fire my weapon at all on one game.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

I see refuse as only one way. Imagine if they had given you the option on Arrival, after making it to the control room, the computer tells you the estimated death toll. You then get a dialogue wheel between Sparing rheir lives/looking for a new way to stop the Arrival (Right after choice Arrival plays out just as if you had run out of time) or choosing to activate the Project.

I still don't know if I see Kenson as a Refuser or just indoctrinated..

[paxxton]

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

My reaction to MP's quality during Operation Overdrive.
http://www.youtube.c...Alq2Qn3Q#t=376s

EDIT: Listen to what the VI says about the Thorian and consider how similar it is to Leviathan. He describes the colonists as thralls and states that the Thorian views them as tools. I tell you there's a connection.

Was that the game that FFZero and I dragged you through? 

I was refering more to awful lags and warping, lost connections, being stuck on the join screen, dying even though I still had half the ring to go, double executions, double revivals, the shuttle hovering over the LZ for the whole mission.

I rather not remember that mission.  Couldn't stay alive for more than a couple of minutes. And it was supposed to be Silver? No way! I guess BioWare boosts regular difficulties on OP Sundays.  And it's not only me who noticed that.

I think you dying was more down to the fact you were playing a low level character Paxx, and the fact that we were on Condor, the worst map ever. Plus the Slayer is pretty weak for a Vanguard, it's like he's made out of tissue paper. But yeah there were some weird lagging issues this weekend and I was getting loads of glitches, weirdest of which was me not being able to fire my weapon at all on one game.

What do if I like playing as a Vanguard.

The most peculiar glitch of all was when 3 of 4 non-hosting players were kicked out (lost connection, ofc) and only the host got the credits.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...
What do if I like playing as a Vanguard.

The most peculiar glitch of all was when 3 of 4 non-hosting players were kicked out (lost connection, ofc) and only the host got the credits.

Then you need to get yourself one of them Kroguards. Beats the crap out of Ravangers.

[KyreneZA]

paxxton wrote...

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

My reaction to MP's quality during Operation Overdrive.
http://www.youtube.c...Alq2Qn3Q#t=376s

EDIT: Listen to what the VI says about the Thorian and consider how similar it is to Leviathan. He describes the colonists as thralls and states that the Thorian views them as tools. I tell you there's a connection.

Was that the game that FFZero and I dragged you through? 

I was refering more to awful lags and warping, lost connections, being stuck on the join screen, dying even though I still had half the ring to go, double executions, double revivals, the shuttle hovering over the LZ for the whole mission.

I rather not remember that mission.  Couldn't stay alive for more than a couple of minutes. And it was supposed to be Silver? No way! I guess BioWare boosts regular difficulties on OP Sundays.  And it's not only me who noticed that.

I think you dying was more down to the fact you were playing a low level character Paxx, and the fact that we were on Condor, the worst map ever. Plus the Slayer is pretty weak for a Vanguard, it's like he's made out of tissue paper. But yeah there were some weird lagging issues this weekend and I was getting loads of glitches, weirdest of which was me not being able to fire my weapon at all on one game.

What do if I like playing as a Vanguard.

The most peculiar glitch of all was when 3 of 4 non-hosting players were kicked out (lost connection, ofc) and only the host got the credits.

All of those are symptoms that you have been indoctirnated...

..I kid, of course.

Shuttle hovering and/or not being able to shoot and/or not seeing enemies and/or people dropping mid-game for no reason are known bugs on Condor and Rio maps and/or signs of severe lag.

I just unlocked the N7 Slayer on Sunday afternoon, and played a game on Silver with him at level 8 with almost no lag, but not as host. I still died repeatedly each wave. I can play Silver fine with any of my other characters. So don't feel bad Paxx, I think the Slayer is just very glassy.

[Andromidius]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...
What do if I like playing as a Vanguard.

The most peculiar glitch of all was when 3 of 4 non-hosting players were kicked out (lost connection, ofc) and only the host got the credits.

Then you need to get yourself one of them Kroguards. Beats the crap out of Ravangers.

Still not unlocked one  

But the Krogan Sentinel is awesome too.  Taken to sniping now too.

With my Claymore and forehead being my backup weapons still, obviously.

[paxxton]

Kyrene wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FFZero wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

My reaction to MP's quality during Operation Overdrive.
http://www.youtube.c...Alq2Qn3Q#t=376s

EDIT: Listen to what the VI says about the Thorian and consider how similar it is to Leviathan. He describes the colonists as thralls and states that the Thorian views them as tools. I tell you there's a connection.

Was that the game that FFZero and I dragged you through? 

I was refering more to awful lags and warping, lost connections, being stuck on the join screen, dying even though I still had half the ring to go, double executions, double revivals, the shuttle hovering over the LZ for the whole mission.

I rather not remember that mission.  Couldn't stay alive for more than a couple of minutes. And it was supposed to be Silver? No way! I guess BioWare boosts regular difficulties on OP Sundays.  And it's not only me who noticed that.

I think you dying was more down to the fact you were playing a low level character Paxx, and the fact that we were on Condor, the worst map ever. Plus the Slayer is pretty weak for a Vanguard, it's like he's made out of tissue paper. But yeah there were some weird lagging issues this weekend and I was getting loads of glitches, weirdest of which was me not being able to fire my weapon at all on one game.

What do if I like playing as a Vanguard.

The most peculiar glitch of all was when 3 of 4 non-hosting players were kicked out (lost connection, ofc) and only the host got the credits.

All of those are symptoms that you have been indoctirnated...

..I kid, of course.

Shuttle hovering and/or not being able to shoot and/or not seeing enemies and/or people dropping mid-game for no reason are known bugs on Condor and Rio maps and/or signs of severe lag.

I just unlocked the N7 Slayer on Sunday afternoon, and played a game on Silver with him at level 8 with almost no lag, but not as host. I still died repeatedly each wave. I can play Silver fine with any of my other characters. So don't feel bad Paxx, I think the Slayer is just very glassy.

I played it on Level 8 too. Since then I've leveled up to 14 and it'd be a great shame if N7 Slayer was an incapable character cause it has some really cool powers like Phase Disruptor and the one with a sword.

[paxxton]

Andromidius wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...
What do if I like playing as a Vanguard.

The most peculiar glitch of all was when 3 of 4 non-hosting players were kicked out (lost connection, ofc) and only the host got the credits.

Then you need to get yourself one of them Kroguards. Beats the crap out of Ravangers.

Still not unlocked one  

But the Krogan Sentinel is awesome too.  Taken to sniping now too.

With my Claymore and forehead being my backup weapons still, obviously.

If it's an Unlockable, then I might not have it too. Besides, krogans are rather slow (e.g. Krogan Soldier).

[KyreneZA]

paxxton wrote...

If it's an Unlockable, then I might not have it too. Besides, krogans are rather slow (e.g. Krogan Soldier).

Not the Battlemaster. Enable Barrier at start of match, then BCharge to get in range, ****-slap/headbutt nearest alive enemies and/or discharge Claymore. Laugh and roar and shout "For Toooochankaaaah!" and headbutt fellow Korgans between rounds. On Platinum (or so I hear; I do it on Silver).

[masster blaster]

Neb Harbinger took over Kensions body. You literaly see her eyes change to Harbingers glowing eyes. Also tommorow we go to war. The collectors are back, and so is Harbinger

[Either.Ardrey]

In regards to Refuse, I sort of see it as something that will eventually become a right answer, utilizing all the war assets points from all of the DLC to make it happen once all are released. At least that would give a purpose to adding war asset points needlessly to the SP DLC.

[paxxton]

Kyrene wrote...

paxxton wrote...

If it's an Unlockable, then I might not have it too. Besides, krogans are rather slow (e.g. Krogan Soldier).

Not the Battlemaster. Enable Barrier at start of match, then BCharge to get in range, ****-slap/headbutt nearest alive enemies and/or discharge Claymore. Laugh and roar and shout "For Toooochankaaaah!" and headbutt fellow Korgans between rounds. On Platinum (or so I hear; I do it on Silver).

I'm using a safer tactic while playing as a krogan Soldier. One that works at a distance. Take the lightest weapon you've got (an AR or a pistol) and use Carnage at will and Frag Grenades when there's a heavy enemy in the vicinity.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

I know MB but her hesitation to start the Project shows some signs of refusal but not noble like Shep. I'm just trying to see if Refuse can also be seen as accepting Indoctrination. Haha I have no doubt she was Indoctrinated.

[NebuchadnezzaRT]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

In regards to Refuse, I sort of see it as something that will eventually become a right answer, utilizing all the war assets points from all of the DLC to make it happen once all are released. At least that would give a purpose to adding war asset points needlessly to the SP DLC.

I would hope so! Puzzle Theory is really a great idea too

[paxxton]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

In regards to Refuse, I sort of see it as something that will eventually become a right answer, utilizing all the war assets points from all of the DLC to make it happen once all are released. At least that would give a purpose to adding war asset points needlessly to the SP DLC.

Yeah, but remember that this might only be the case if you view it as a literal choice.

[401 Kill]

NebuchadnezzaRT wrote...

I know MB but her hesitation to start the Project shows some signs of refusal but not noble like Shep. I'm just trying to see if Refuse can also be seen as accepting Indoctrination. Haha I have no doubt she was Indoctrinated.

(Sorry if this post has been elaborated on because I just got here.) Can you please share any evidence you have come up with on the topic of refuse? How is this viewed as accepting indoctrination? If you don't make a choice, you would just be stuck there, ceasing to be useful to the Reapers, and friendly forces. At least, that's what I think it points to.

[masster blaster]

Well my take on refuse, was that over half of the bsn didn't want to pick a choice, so Bioware said okay since you don't want to pick Destroy and wake up here is our middle finger to you.

Personaly I see refuse as retarted because that means Shepard survivied Harbingers laser, and evey little plot hole is not been fixed.

Oh and adding more war assets helps in Destroy, because once Shepard wakes up, you still need war assets to help stop the Reapers.

[masster blaster]

401 actually it does. Think about it the world Leaders on Earth were Indoctrinated, and refused to let anyone stop the Reapers. The same thing can be said about refuse. You don't take any action, and you let the galaxy die, as you watch.

Also read what I have before this post.

[TSA_383]

Pascal219 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/254665092518526976


someone asked when can they go back and play the me3 ending

That's... actually a really interesting/odd response to that question... I'm confused.

[Either.Ardrey]

masster blaster wrote...

Well my take on refuse, was that over half of the bsn didn't want to pick a choice, so Bioware said okay since you don't want to pick Destroy and wake up here is our middle finger to you.

Personaly I see refuse as retarted because that means Shepard survivied Harbingers laser, and evey little plot hole is not been fixed.

Oh and adding more war assets helps in Destroy, because once Shepard wakes up, you still need war assets to help stop the Reapers.

The same could go for Refuse. Refuse, wake up via super high EMS, needing those war assets to finish. Though, granted, that only works in the hypothetical situation in which Refuse is Shepard going "Screw you Harbinger! Ima gunna wake up now and kick you to kingdom come!," which is what a lot of people thought it was before we saw the current result of said choice.

[401 Kill]

masster blaster wrote...

401 actually it does. Think about it the world Leaders on Earth were Indoctrinated, and refused to let anyone stop the Reapers. The same thing can be said about refuse. You don't take any action, and you let the galaxy die, as you watch.

Also read what I have before this post.

That... Is a very good point. But I could counter that argument by saying that the leaders on earth didn't want to didn't want to stop the Reapers, while Shepard wanted to stop the Reapers, but didn't accept any choice the was presented to him in favor of "winning on his terms". (Devil's advocate)

[masster blaster]

Well until more is done with refuse, which I don't think it is because your EMS doesn't do anything, only you get a scene of Liara which I don't know what the required EMS is. I still say refuse sucks for right now. Also one person said you become a mindless husk/ the salarians like on Virmire all those years ago.

They were broken, like Shepard is in refuse. They don't do anything, like Shepard is in refuse. Sure Shepard talks, but he/she doesn't do anything after wards.

[401 Kill]

TSA_383 wrote...

Pascal219 wrote...

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/254665092518526976


someone asked when can they go back and play the me3 ending

That's... actually a really interesting/odd response to that question... I'm confused.

Hmmm... I think that was about when that person should return to ME3 because of the depressing ending, unless I misunderstood something.