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[spotlessvoid]

Sorry, my twitter account was hacked

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 08 octobre 2012 - 07:13 .

[masster blaster]

And that is why Skill we play with eachother. To talk about IT, and we talk to eachother. I don't talk I just shoot to kill, but hey when they need help in platinum they will remember you once you beat platinum.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Kabooooom wrote...

I have no idea where that's coming from, because the asteroid wasn't split open until post-Prothean era.

ME: Retribution flat out states that the Reapers built Omega, and subsequent cycles added to it. And ME3 seems to refer to the events of Retribution as canon...wasn't the Prothean thing mere speculation on the part of individuals within the game anyways? ie: They assumed the Protheans built it, just like they assumed the Protheans built the relays and the Citadel? The Protheans probably assumed the Inusannon built Omega too.

Doesn't everything that's ever thought to be built by the Protheans turn out to be Reaper tech?  The Relays, Citadel, and now Omega. Hmm, I wonder what other large, important, supposedly Prothean object might be Reaper tech...

Off course any large facility believed to have been build by the Protheans is ultimately going to be a Reaper construction. It is all part of the cycle to wipe out just about any trace of the past cycle to hide the fact that the Reapers exist, leaving only the Reapers own creations behind to guide the next cycle.

A place as big as Omega would not escape the Reapers unless they built it or saw potential in it, repurposing it for their own needs. In fact that it is the same system as the Omega-4 relay makes any chance that the Reapers missed it in the Prothean cycle 0%.

Which means we have a Reaper facility of unknown pupose floating around in the same system the entrance to the Collectors are...implications unpleasant

[masster blaster]

Skillz1986 wrote...

Wow...hatred for IT has eached a new high...at least for me.

Just had a multiplayer match with three othe guys who knew each other. We had some good matfhes and fun time talking.
Then i said how i could not wait for omega and the changes..options it might bring to the ending.
I was then asked if i was "one of these nutjobs believing in IT" . I answered accordingly..and all communication with me stopped...they didn't warn me about enemies...did not respond when i tried to talk etc. Then before the next match i got booted out. See..i'm not crying over it, but this is flat out discrimination.

trust me I know. I meet I eat unicorns, and a dew of his buddys and the booted me out. If only they let me help them in Platinum they could have made it to wave 8

[masster blaster]

Well at least TTG is over there at the Synthesis thread, at least he can tell them about IT, well in his own way, but I prefer this.

I never knew TTG created a thread abiut Synthesis. He is basically saying that Synthesis is wrong, and at least we can all agree. Heck even Steelclan agrees.

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 06:34 .

[Jadebaby]

hey guys.. So I've been looking around a bit and I really think that IT is Mass Effect's only way out. I saw this..

http://blog.bioware....e3-multiplayer/

And one of the names near the bottom is "synthesis EDI". It really just made me wonder if BioWare actually think that this concept works in the MEuniverse. And that really worries me if they think it does. But then I thought of other people who have played the games. Even some of my friends who weren't as into the lore as me and have said "what's wrong with them? I didn't mind them, they weren't great, but okay. Oh and I picked the green ending."

It really just makes me wonder because the time I was really into IT between release and extended cut release. I thought it was too obvious of an idea and that people wouldn't fall for it. But looking around at people who *think* they know what Mass Effect is about but still choose synthesis or control. I'm starting to see just how many people BioWare have tricked, if this is what they have planned.

This also probably comes as a result of the fact that they are really *stepping it up* on the MP area of the game. While the SP game and ending feels like it's being left in the dark to rot. and that really, REALLY hurts me.

Anyway, I love talking about IT so if you guys ever want to play MP on xbox let me know. Been playing with BansheeOwnage and Bleeding Uranium lately, and I noticed how much more fun I have when I'm talking about IT.

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 08 octobre 2012 - 06:37 .

[masster blaster]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

hey guys.. So I've been looking around a bit and I really think that IT is Mass Effect's only way out. I saw this.. http://blog.bioware....e3-multiplayer/

And one of the names near the bottom is "synthesis EDI". It really just made me wonder if BioWare actually think that this concept works in the MEuniverse. And that really worries me if they think it does. But then I thought of other people who have played the games. Even some of my friends who weren't as into the lore as me and have said "what's wrong with them? I didn't mind them, they weren't great, but okay. Oh and I picked the green ending."

It really just makes me wonder because the time I was really into IT between release and extended cut release. I thought it was too obvious of an idea and that people wouldn't fall for it. But looking around at people who *think* they know what Mass Effect is about but still choose synthesis or control. I'm starting to see just how many people BioWare have tricked, if this is what they have planned.

This also probably comes as a result of the fact that they are really *stepping it up* on the MP area of the game. While the SP game and ending feels like it's being left in the dark to rot. and that really, REALLY hurts me.

Anyway, I love talking about IT so if you guys ever want to play MP on xbox let me know. Been playing with BansheeOwnage and Bleeding Uranium lately, and I noticed how much more fun I have when I'm talking about IT.

Cool, and um I don't know how to say this, but um we/ most of us now see refuse/reject as Indoctrination.

From Neb

"Sorry for responding late.

I just wanted to draw some comparisons between Kenson and Refuse Shep:
(Note:
I initially recieved this idea from watching some of the IT vids out
there, so it isn't mine and is elaborated on more in the videos)

-FACT: Everyone on the asteroid was eventually indoctrinated by Object Rho

-FACT: Harbinger took direct control of Kenson. 
  --Meaning he is in close proximity, Harbinger used the Collector General to amplify his will over the Collector forces from Dark Space

-FACT:
Individuals can sense the onset of Indoctrination but are almost always
unable to prevent it (characters from all 3 ME games)
  --Meaning: Kenson was on the verge of setting the asteroid into a collision course with the relay but didn't. Then she was captured by Batarians. (Datapads and dialogue show she could have started the Project before she was captured.

So
Kenson had the ability to delay the Reapers but through her intial
issues with wiping out an entire system and then the subtle suggestions
of indoctrination she decided that allowing the Reapers to proceed
forth, uninhibited was the best course of action (cut off all contact
with the Alliance, sat around OR or watching the counter click down.

We easily see she is Indoctrinated, and how Refusal can be a tool of the Reapers:
The cost is too great
I won't sacrifice the soul of our species
We will find another way

Now, every single Mass Effect player (PS3, XBOX, PC) has had to make a hard decision:

-Virmire choice (both destruction methods and crew member choice)
-Extinction or Survival of the Rachni
-Destruction or Saving the Collector Base
-Destroying the Bahak system
-Geth/Quarian conflict resolution
-Council recommendations

Shepard
is'nt perfect but s/he should be used to having to make hard decisions.
Shepard unflinchingly activates the Project. It is the only way. 

But Kenson could not. She refused to make the hard choice.

And
in the end of Mass Effect 3, Puzzle Theory or not, Shepard refuses
(through his direct dialogue) to destroy what he sees as innocent
synthetics, usurp control over the Reapers and guide the galaxy on his
terms, or rewrite the entire DNA of all the flora and fauna and
synthetics of the Galaxy. IT-wise s/he refuse to stop the Reapers. Victory at any costs. Shepard submits, he is'nt strong enough to defeat them, imagine your mind caving in.

Ironically,
this is the only choice that reveals the Starkid's true being. Some may
see that as support for a Refuse-Success down the road but I see that
as the Reapers leaving Shepard trapped inside his mind, inside the
illusion."

[masster blaster]

You know the endings remind me of the shadow games in Yo gi oh. If you lose you can loose you soul to the shadows, and you body. Synthesis, and Control you loose you body, but if you win you get to keep you body Destroy breath scene. refuse, and reject is like loosing the Shadow game, and the shadows take away you spirit.

[BleedingUranium]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

hey guys.. So I've been looking around a bit and I really think that IT is Mass Effect's only way out. I saw this..

http://blog.bioware....e3-multiplayer/

And one of the names near the bottom is "synthesis EDI". It really just made me wonder if BioWare actually think that this concept works in the MEuniverse. And that really worries me if they think it does. But then I thought of other people who have played the games. Even some of my friends who weren't as into the lore as me and have said "what's wrong with them? I didn't mind them, they weren't great, but okay. Oh and I picked the green ending."

It really just makes me wonder because the time I was really into IT between release and extended cut release. I thought it was too obvious of an idea and that people wouldn't fall for it. But looking around at people who *think* they know what Mass Effect is about but still choose synthesis or control. I'm starting to see just how many people BioWare have tricked, if this is what they have planned.

This also probably comes as a result of the fact that they are really *stepping it up* on the MP area of the game. While the SP game and ending feels like it's being left in the dark to rot. and that really, REALLY hurts me.

Anyway, I love talking about IT so if you guys ever want to play MP on xbox let me know. Been playing with BansheeOwnage and Bleeding Uranium lately, and I noticed how much more fun I have when I'm talking about IT.

Note that the title below "Synthesis EDI" is "Mathemagician". Bioware knows Synthesis is Space Magic

[masster blaster]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

hey guys.. So I've been looking around a bit and I really think that IT is Mass Effect's only way out. I saw this..

http://blog.bioware....e3-multiplayer/

And one of the names near the bottom is "synthesis EDI". It really just made me wonder if BioWare actually think that this concept works in the MEuniverse. And that really worries me if they think it does. But then I thought of other people who have played the games. Even some of my friends who weren't as into the lore as me and have said "what's wrong with them? I didn't mind them, they weren't great, but okay. Oh and I picked the green ending."

It really just makes me wonder because the time I was really into IT between release and extended cut release. I thought it was too obvious of an idea and that people wouldn't fall for it. But looking around at people who *think* they know what Mass Effect is about but still choose synthesis or control. I'm starting to see just how many people BioWare have tricked, if this is what they have planned.

This also probably comes as a result of the fact that they are really *stepping it up* on the MP area of the game. While the SP game and ending feels like it's being left in the dark to rot. and that really, REALLY hurts me.

Anyway, I love talking about IT so if you guys ever want to play MP on xbox let me know. Been playing with BansheeOwnage and Bleeding Uranium lately, and I noticed how much more fun I have when I'm talking about IT.

Note that the title below "Synthesis EDI" is "Mathemagician". Bioware knows Synthesis is Space Magic

You mean Darkmagician.

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 06:53 .

[BansheeOwnage]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

hey guys.. So I've been looking around a bit and I really think that IT is Mass Effect's only way out. I saw this..

http://blog.bioware....e3-multiplayer/

And one of the names near the bottom is "synthesis EDI". It really just made me wonder if BioWare actually think that this concept works in the MEuniverse. And that really worries me if they think it does. But then I thought of other people who have played the games. Even some of my friends who weren't as into the lore as me and have said "what's wrong with them? I didn't mind them, they weren't great, but okay. Oh and I picked the green ending."

It really just makes me wonder because the time I was really into IT between release and extended cut release. I thought it was too obvious of an idea and that people wouldn't fall for it. But looking around at people who *think* they know what Mass Effect is about but still choose synthesis or control. I'm starting to see just how many people BioWare have tricked, if this is what they have planned.

This also probably comes as a result of the fact that they are really *stepping it up* on the MP area of the game. While the SP game and ending feels like it's being left in the dark to rot. and that really, REALLY hurts me.

Anyway, I love talking about IT so if you guys ever want to play MP on xbox let me know. Been playing with BansheeOwnage and Bleeding Uranium lately, and I noticed how much more fun I have when I'm talking about IT.

Hello! Oh, and about the synthesis EDI thing: I thought it was pretty funny, because at first I was like you, thinking it may be a bad things, then I realized it was quite fittingly a joke. "Methemagician". So, even Bioware understands that synthesis is space magic.

Good news for us actually.

Edit: Ninja'd

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 octobre 2012 - 06:54 .

[Jadebaby]

To be 100% honest, I don't think about refuse ending and the IT together too much. Any information included in the EC I don't really consider towards the IT because it was the original endings that made me believe in it.

That doesn't mean I think that the EC disproved it. Because it didn't and (like I said) I do still believe in it, in a sense. But I'm not going to start debating the role of refusal in IT. Because, as for me, they are to seperate beliefs that I have and I don't think they need to be mixed. This is partly because (as you said) refusal doesn't have much of a place in the IT. But also because the IT doesn't have much of a place in refusal (or PT).

I came into this thread because I have made great friends through it and a part of me still believes in the IT and wants it to be true. Just as I created and post in PT thread because a part of me believes in that and wants it to be true also.

All that being said, if all you're going to say is "cool" and then proceed to tell me that I'm indoctrinated for having another belief that you don't share. Then I guess I was mistaken in how welcome I am in this thread. And no offense, but this is the kind of crap that gives you guys a bad name.

See ya.

[BansheeOwnage]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

To be 100% honest, I don't think about refuse ending and the IT together too much. Any information included in the EC I don't really consider towards the IT because it was the original endings that made me believe in it.

That doesn't mean I think that the EC disproved it. Because it didn't and (like I said) I do still believe in it, in a sense. But I'm not going to start debating the role of refusal in IT. Because, as for me, they are to seperate beliefs that I have and I don't think they need to be mixed. This is partly because (as you said) refusal doesn't have much of a place in the IT. But also because the IT doesn't have much of a place in refusal (or PT).

I came into this thread because I have made great friends through it and a part of me still believes in the IT and wants it to be true. Just as I created and post in PT thread because a part of me believes in that and wants it to be true also.

All that being said, if all you're going to say is "cool" and then proceed to tell me that I'm indoctrinated for having another belief that you don't share. Then I guess I was mistaken in how welcome I am in this thread. And no offense, but this is the kind of crap that gives you guys a bad name.

See ya.

 No! I have no idea why MassterBlaster did that. It was totally uncalled for! Don't let his actions shape your perception of the rest of us!

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 08 octobre 2012 - 07:00 .

[Hrothdane]

Jade8aby88 wrote...
All that being said, if all you're going to say is "cool" and then proceed to tell me that I'm indoctrinated for having another belief that you don't share. Then I guess I was mistaken in how welcome I am in this thread. And no offense, but this is the kind of crap that gives you guys a bad name.

See ya.

I don't think MB meant it like that, and if he did, he does not express the feelings I've seen of the other people here.

I know that I am actually a fan of your theory as well, and I like the possibility of a refuse victory in IT as well.

[masster blaster]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

To be 100% honest, I don't think about refuse ending and the IT together too much. Any information included in the EC I don't really consider towards the IT because it was the original endings that made me believe in it.

That doesn't mean I think that the EC disproved it. Because it didn't and (like I said) I do still believe in it, in a sense. But I'm not going to start debating the role of refusal in IT. Because, as for me, they are to seperate beliefs that I have and I don't think they need to be mixed. This is partly because (as you said) refusal doesn't have much of a place in the IT. But also because the IT doesn't have much of a place in refusal (or PT).

I came into this thread because I have made great friends through it and a part of me still believes in the IT and wants it to be true. Just as I created and post in PT thread because a part of me believes in that and wants it to be true also.

All that being said, if all you're going to say is "cool" and then proceed to tell me that I'm indoctrinated for having another belief that you don't share. Then I guess I was mistaken in how welcome I am in this thread. And no offense, but this is the kind of crap that gives you guys a bad name.

See ya.

I said it's cool because you and Banshee, and Blurr are playing together, and I like your puzzle theory. This is the problem people have is interpitation of what people say. I don't mean " Ya that's cool know move along", but I mean that's great that your playing with Banshee, and Blurr, and that you like to talk about IT. i consider you a friend and I mean it.

Banshee that's not what I ment.

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 07:06 .

[Humakt83]

From Leviathan files:

BioA_Lev003_160CollectorShip.pcc

[BansheeOwnage]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Sorry, my twitter account was hacked

?

[BansheeOwnage]

Humakt83 wrote...

From Leviathan files:

BioA_Lev003_160CollectorShip.pcc

Why did we never find this before??? Confirmed in Omega then. >

[spotlessvoid]

Humakt83 wrote...

From Leviathan files:

BioA_Lev003_160CollectorShip.pcc

Veddy veddy sneaky indeed.

TSA has been slacking off I see

[FFZero]

Umm I did bring up the collector ship file name oddity a while ago...

[BansheeOwnage]

FFZero wrote...

Umm I did bring up the collector ship file name oddity a while ago...

Must have missed that! It's an unfortunate and mostly unavoidable aspect of this thread I'm afraid.

[Kabooooom]

Not accurate, and see my edit. The codex doesn't think it was built by Protheans. It says that they think they tried to mine the asteroid, but failed. Later, post-Prothean, the asteroid split, opening up the valuable core for mining by the next cycle. If it's flat out stated in the book, then it is also flat out a retcon, like I hypothesized in my previous edit.

Curious, I do recall this from playing the games but I don't remember where. Is it in the overall description of Omega itself in the Codex? Either way, they're probably going to retcon/explain it away just like the statues of Ilos being the Inusannon and not the Protheans.

[FFZero]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Umm I did bring up the collector ship file name oddity a while ago...

Must have missed that! It's an unfortunate and mostly unavoidable aspect of this thread I'm afraid.

Yeah I think it was overshadowed when we were talking about the nosebleed texture being used in Leviathan and the ending.

[spotlessvoid]

BansheeOwnage wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Umm I did bring up the collector ship file name oddity a while ago...

Must have missed that! It's an unfortunate and mostly unavoidable aspect of this thread I'm afraid.

I knew you'd ninja me banshee. So I just waited an extra minute and sure enough. You even ninja'd my first sentence.

[ThisOneIsPunny]

masster blaster wrote...
I said it's cool because you and Banshee, and Blurr are playing together, and I like your puzzle theory. This is the problem people have is interpitation of what people say. I don't mean " Ya that's cool know move along", but I mean that's great that your playing with Banshee, and Blurr, and that you like to talk about IT. i consider you a friend and I mean it.

Banshee that's not what I ment.

Mistranslation of the message a person tries to convey to another is pretty common, in other words, it's okay MB I get what you mean and that it was more of providing information that jade may not have known about rather than forcing a belief on her(And I actually didn't see that post when I was trying to catch up, so thanks).

That said, there's usually more to miscommunication than just misreading things and here's me hoping that everyone is well today and not weighed down by any kind of stress.