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[BatmanTurian]

masster blaster wrote...

Then there is this

"The Reapers don't possess free will. This is irrelevant."

why?

But the Reapers do possess free will. At least Harbinger and Sovereign appeared to. they both had their unconventional methods and Harbinger seems to be going straight obsessive rogue.

[masster blaster]

"And here I thought this couldn't get worse. People are actually taking that quote from Garrus seriously?" talking about the Garrus quote they pulled about Shepard being a peacekeeper./ A guy that makes sense.




"The Control thread has made a sig out of it to support their cause.

Like it or not, the foreshadowing in that quote is very credible. The fact it was meant as humor makes it qualify for a very common literary technique known as irony, something that usually goes hand-in-hand with foreshadowing.

I mean, it's far more credible than IT trying to draw conclusions out of a trailer for multiplayer, anyway..."


My head hurts.

Oh and I talked about Hackett's speech he gives us before we go back to Earth, and here is what they said.

"A. Hackett is not a god, and is operating on incomplete information: he
assumes that the Crucible can only be used to destroy the Reapers.
B. The Reapers are mind-controlled and not actually responsible for their actions."

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 08:25 .

[Bill Casey]

masster blaster wrote...

"All of which would be irrelevant because they all think the only option is to destroy the Reapers. At the end of the day, what non-omnicient characters say means very little in this argument. All we know is their opinion. Opinionsdon't prove a damn thing"

EDI: But moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew for their opinion, I could miss crucial context.

[masster blaster]

Bill Casey wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

"All of which would be irrelevant because they all think the only option is to destroy the Reapers. At the end of the day, what non-omnicient characters say means very little in this argument. All we know is their opinion. Opinionsdon't prove a damn thing"

EDI: But moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew for their opinion, I could miss crucial context.

I love you Bill, as a friend.

[masster blaster]

"Ah, yes... we need to quote that more often.
By the way, why do you think the Reapers exhibit... well, malevolent personalities? I suspect it's a side effect of the mind control, but both Sovereign and Harbinger seemed to exhibit some sort of pleasure in their work. Given the numerous inaccuracies of Sovereign's speech, in its case it may just have been trying to intimidate Shepard, but Harbinger talks far too often for it to just be that. Maybe it's a side effect of Harbinger being made from Leviathans?"


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[BatmanTurian]

Bill Casey wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

"All of which would be irrelevant because they all think the only option is to destroy the Reapers. At the end of the day, what non-omnicient characters say means very little in this argument. All we know is their opinion. Opinionsdon't prove a damn thing"

EDI: But moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew for their opinion, I could miss crucial context.

and this is why Bill is bad@**

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Bill Casey wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

"All of which would be irrelevant because they all think the only option is to destroy the Reapers. At the end of the day, what non-omnicient characters say means very little in this argument. All we know is their opinion. Opinionsdon't prove a damn thing"

EDI: But moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew for their opinion, I could miss crucial context.

Oh I love that quote.

Lets see...people who tells you destroying the Reapers is the way...just about every person on the Normandy...

People who say Control/Synthesis is the way...Indoctrinated or directly states they are the Reapers...

I know which people are going to pull my moral compass.

[masster blaster]

SO you would believe in the REAPER Leader, and not what your friends
tell you. I never said leave my thread. That was Spotless not me. Also
your erase everyone mind in Synthesis. Why isn't Javik killing Reapers,
why isn't everyone still fighting. You say Synthesis is the best, but
it's not. How many children will have to group with the Reapers, not knowing THEIR family's were harvested, killed, and turned into HUSK. You
say Synthesis is peaceful, and your right, but it's wrong.

Reapers lie, they cheat, and they are manipulative to the core.

"So, basically, you're saying that Hackett knows everything?

And you've pulled the idea that synthesis erases minds completely out of thin air.

Maybe Javik tried, we don't know, or maybe the synthesis provided him a new perspective

Right, I hope everyone will join with me in saying:

Hit the road Jack"

Ya that last part didn't work.

[BatmanTurian]

masster blaster wrote...

"Ah, yes... we need to quote that more often.
By the way, why do you think the Reapers exhibit... well, malevolent personalities? I suspect it's a side effect of the mind control, but both Sovereign and Harbinger seemed to exhibit some sort of pleasure in their work. Given the numerous inaccuracies of Sovereign's speech, in its case it may just have been trying to intimidate Shepard, but Harbinger talks far too often for it to just be that. Maybe it's a side effect of Harbinger being made from Leviathans?"


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Leviathans are narcissistic sociopaths. Reapers are narcissistic psychopaths.

[paxxton]

OMG! This could happen to Mass Effect in 30 years.
 

Modifié par paxxton, 08 octobre 2012 - 08:30 .

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

"Ah, yes... we need to quote that more often.
By the way, why do you think the Reapers exhibit... well, malevolent personalities? I suspect it's a side effect of the mind control, but both Sovereign and Harbinger seemed to exhibit some sort of pleasure in their work. Given the numerous inaccuracies of Sovereign's speech, in its case it may just have been trying to intimidate Shepard, but Harbinger talks far too often for it to just be that. Maybe it's a side effect of Harbinger being made from Leviathans?"


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Wait, wait...

Did he just acknowledge that what Sovereign says has holes but never asociates that with the possibility that the Catalyst is lying?

[spotlessvoid]

What exactly happens to starchild in synthesis anyways?

[masster blaster]

"The ending reveals that all the conventional-wisdom about the Reapers is false.

Hackett was wrong. Anderson was wrong. Even Shepard was wrong.

And, "So, the Illusive Man was right afterall."

Destroy is not the only way. It's just one way.

Also, Hackett's speech was quite underwhelming."

I want to burn my house down.

[BatmanTurian]

paxxton wrote...

OMG! This could happen to Mass Effect in 30 years.
 

ehrmergerd I'm playin dat for reals

[spotlessvoid]

paxxton wrote...

OMG! This could happen to Mass Effect in 30 years.
 

And there would still be synthesis supporters griping about not being able to rape the galaxy

[masster blaster]

"Oh, and if you want to talk about foreshadowing:

"Do not waver. Victory is never won without difficult choices." - Javik.

IT rejects this notion of choice entirely by dismissing all options other than Destroy. "

" I'm on my kness pretty pretty please kill me know."

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 08:35 .

[BatmanTurian]

spotlessvoid wrote...

What exactly happens to starchild in synthesis anyways?

good question. I guess it's implied that he watches over everyone. In reality, he just kinda disappears from the narrative. EDI doesn't even mention him. Strange.

[Bill Casey]

There are people who think the star child dies in synthesis...

[AresKeith]

I doubt the Starbrat is gone in Control too

[spotlessvoid]

masster blaster wrote...

"The ending reveals that all the conventional-wisdom about the Reapers is false.

Hackett was wrong. Anderson was wrong. Even Shepard was wrong.

And, "So, the Illusive Man was right afterall."

Destroy is not the only way. It's just one way.

Also, Hackett's speech was quite underwhelming."

I want to burn my house down.

maybe quit before you lose your sanity? you Krogan aren't exactly that stable in the first place. 

[BatmanTurian]

masster blaster wrote...

"The ending reveals that all the conventional-wisdom about the Reapers is false.

Hackett was wrong. Anderson was wrong. Even Shepard was wrong.

And, "So, the Illusive Man was right afterall."

Destroy is not the only way. It's just one way.

okay here. This is why I say those people ARE STRAIGHT UP INDOCTRINATED by a blob of pixels with a boys voice. It's so sad. I hate my species' stupidity. I don't want to live on this planet anymore

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

OMG! This could happen to Mass Effect in 30 years.
 

ehrmergerd I'm playin dat for reals

Tbh, I think Angry Birds is a very funny game.  Just that when I saw this trailer, my mind ventured to Kinect Star Wars  and that influenced my judgment obviously.

[spotlessvoid]

Bill Casey wrote...

There are people who think the star child dies in synthesis...

But why?  He helped me save the galaxy. 

[Bill Casey]

They are quite blatantly indoctrinated...

[masster blaster]

"You missed the point entirely.

The problem was not the fact that the krogan had technology, it was the fact they had bad cultural attitudes. Bad attitudes gave way to them using technology in a bad way.

If you think technology is a terrible thing, why do you use a computer? Go live in a teepee if that's so much better."

Why?