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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Either.Ardrey wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

So the Volus thing is getting crazier in the MP section


how bad?


Almost every thread is about Volus

What's your estimated percentage of like vs dislike for MP Volus in the MP threads? It seems like I dare not go myself. lol

My crazy thought in one thread was that they're being used as placeholders for Prothean MP characters. Since Omega isn't coming out just yet; revealing they're in MP would be a massive spoiler for SP so distraction with an out of the blue Volus introduction.

I was thinking that we might see a Collector facility in Omega where Protheans are cloned like the Breeder was and then converted. And maybe Shepard has to make contact with one and we know how that turns out.

I'd say it's about 80:20 hate:love ratio atm.

Woo, top of 1276:O

Modifié par PsiMatrix, 08 octobre 2012 - 10:53 .


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A reminder of the poll.
I am off, see you tommorrow. And please, don't lose your minds in those Synthesis/Control threads. Would be a sad story.

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" Ihope you realize nobody has ever actually claimed the Reapers were nice, right?"

Just their leader right?

It's already happening mb.

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 08 octobre 2012 - 11:02 .


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Restrider wrote...

A reminder of the poll.
I am off, see you tommorrow. And please, don't lose your minds in those Synthesis/Control threads. Would be a sad story.

Would be ironic, considerin that's what you do in those endings.

STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

A reminder of the poll.
I am off, see you tommorrow. And please, don't lose your minds in those Synthesis/Control threads. Would be a sad story.

Would be ironic, considerin that's what you do in those endings.

STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE.


I take it you weren't here for the last five pages were you/

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masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

A reminder of the poll.
I am off, see you tommorrow. And please, don't lose your minds in those Synthesis/Control threads. Would be a sad story.

Would be ironic, considerin that's what you do in those endings.

STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE.


I take it you weren't here for the last five pages were you/

No. I could probably guess what happened though, couldn't I?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

A reminder of the poll.
I am off, see you tommorrow. And please, don't lose your minds in those Synthesis/Control threads. Would be a sad story.

Would be ironic, considerin that's what you do in those endings.

STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE.


I take it you weren't here for the last five pages were you/

No. I could probably guess what happened though, couldn't I?


try me. Your brother was here for a while, and even he find it very funny.

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masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Restrider wrote...

A reminder of the poll.
I am off, see you tommorrow. And please, don't lose your minds in those Synthesis/Control threads. Would be a sad story.

Would be ironic, considerin that's what you do in those endings.

STRUGGLE IF YOU WISH - YOUR MIND WILL BE MINE.


I take it you weren't here for the last five pages were you/

No. I could probably guess what happened though, couldn't I?


try me. Your brother was here for a while, and even he find it very funny.

I don't know. Were you talking about synthesis?

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He was giving us a step by step on his crusade against the synthesis thread. People dry heaved. Bill Casey blew his rape whistle. We saw some windowless vans parked outside the thread. You know the usual

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We need a picture of the decision chamber, with the caption "Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum". Posted Image

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spotlessvoid wrote...

He was giving us a step by step on his crusade against the synthesis thread. People dry heaved. Bill Casey blew his rape whistle. We saw some windowless vans parked outside the thread. You know the usual

well since you couldn't go to the Synthesis thread Spot I brought what I did over their to here, and I haven't been the only ITer to go over there either. DD, and a few others have been over there from time to time.

Modifié par masster blaster, 08 octobre 2012 - 11:16 .


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Bill Casey wrote...

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If you take this at face value, you are a ****ing idiot...


Ya Bill sealed it.

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Bill Casey wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

"The ending reveals that all the conventional-wisdom about the Reapers is false.

Hackett was wrong. Anderson was wrong. Even Shepard was wrong.

And, "So, the Illusive Man was right afterall."

Destroy is not the only way. It's just one way.


okay
here. This is why I say those people ARE STRAIGHT UP INDOCTRINATED by a
blob of pixels with a boys voice. It's so sad. I hate my species'
stupidity. I don't want to live on this planet anymore


Steps 3 and 4 of the lifton method...
Note that all Shepards at this point are already experiencing an identity crisis and a lot of guilt...

science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/inside-the-mind/human-brain/brainwashing1.htm

  • Self-betrayal: Agree with me that you are bad. Once the
    subject is disoriented and drowning in guilt, the agent forces him
    (either with the threat of physical harm or of continuance of the mental
    attack) to denounce his family, friends and peers who share the same
    "wrong" belief system that he holds. This betrayal of his own beliefs
    and of people he feels a sense of loyalty to increases the shame and
    loss of identity the target is already experiencing.
  • Breaking point: Who am I, where am I and what am I supposed to do?
    With his identity in crisis, experiencing deep shame and having
    betrayed what he has always believed in, the target may undergo what in
    the lay community is referred to as a "nervous breakdown." In
    psychology, "nervous breakdown" is really just a collection of severe
    symptoms that can indicate any number of psychological disturbances. It
    may involve uncontrollable sobbing, deep depression and general
    disorientation. The target may have lost his grip on reality and have
    the feeling of being completely lost and alone. When
    the target reaches his breaking point, his sense of self is pretty much
    up for grabs -- he has no clear understanding of who he is or what is
    happening to him. At this point, the agent sets up the temptation to
    convert to another belief system that will save the target from his
    misery.

[*]Also Bill

#31889
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Bill Casey wrote...

EDI: But moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew for their opinion, I could miss crucial context.

I was just going to bring up that quote, but I'll repost it instead.

Moral decisions should not be made
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in a vacuum.
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In a VACUUM.

Where is Shepard? In space.

The amount of foreshadowing in this quote in unbelievable, especially considering who said it...

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BleedingUranium wrote...

We need a picture of the decision chamber, with the caption "Moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum". Posted Image




A warning on making the right choice during an indoctrination induced hallucination

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masster blaster wrote...

Never mind I found something the Seival created. it's pretty good art work, but i don't know.


Just finished new fan-art, and called it "Controlled Synthesis". Not quite happy with the picture in general (the concept was too complicated for me, I guess), but I hope it's clear that we see Shepard-Catalyst (symbolical image of course), initiating Synthesis.

Since it's both Control and Synthesis related, I think I should post it in both support threads :)



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Also I have to say Banshee I love the art work that he did, No joke I do.:mellow:

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Hey if what happens in game doesn't match what I think happened, I'll just draw a picture making it up.

#31893
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masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Never mind I found something the Seival created. it's pretty good art work, but i don't know.


Just finished new fan-art, and called it "Controlled Synthesis". Not quite happy with the picture in general (the concept was too complicated for me, I guess), but I hope it's clear that we see Shepard-Catalyst (symbolical image of course), initiating Synthesis.

Since it's both Control and Synthesis related, I think I should post it in both support threads :)



Posted Image


Also I have to say Banshee I love the art work that he did, No joke I do.:mellow:

I like this one better Posted Image
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I wanna be a mathemagician when I grow up...

#31895
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Seivel is insane with all the Cult talk

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ZerebusPrime wrote...

I wanna be a mathemagician when I grow up...


You mean Darkmagician prime. He has magic powers, and he is awsome.

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AresKeith wrote...

Seivel is insane with all the Cult talk


What thread is he on this time.<_<

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masster blaster wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seivel is insane with all the Cult talk


What thread is he on this time.<_<


I mean with that picture you posted

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

EDI: But moral decisions should not be made in a vacuum. If I do not ask the crew for their opinion, I could miss crucial context.

I was just going to bring up that quote, but I'll repost it instead.

Moral decisions should not be made
Posted Image
in a vacuum.
Posted Image


In a VACUUM.

Where is Shepard? In space.

The amount of foreshadowing in this quote in unbelievable, especially considering who said it...



Oooooooooooh I missed that one.  Usually I notice these things.  I wonder, does this mean EDI supports Refusal?

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Never mind I found something the Seival created. it's pretty good art work, but i don't know.


Just finished new fan-art, and called it "Controlled Synthesis". Not quite happy with the picture in general (the concept was too complicated for me, I guess), but I hope it's clear that we see Shepard-Catalyst (symbolical image of course), initiating Synthesis.

Since it's both Control and Synthesis related, I think I should post it in both support threads :)



Posted Image


Also I have to say Banshee I love the art work that he did, No joke I do.:mellow:

I like this one better Posted Image
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So, Sevial is constantly trying to get IT moved to the fan-fiction section despite the fact that Bioware says it's not fan-fiction... and he invents a scenario where Control-Shep creates Synthesis Posted Image