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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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SwobyJ wrote...
-Leviathans are aware of all of this stuff, but just didn't expect Shepard to be aware enough (ah, the powers of DLC!) to 'breach the darkness' of their existance and plan

Ironically, for shouting so much at Shepard that they shouldn't be at T-GES and the the darkness must not be breached, they led Shepard right to them. I hardly doubt having Shepard chase fake Garneau to real Garneau's body was a coincidence.

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Appropos leaviathan dlc. I played it the tird time yesterday and leviathan says something to shepard, using fake garneaus body..that struck a little odd. "you bring only death". What the hecm' s thwt supposed to mean?

Modifié par Skillz1986, 09 octobre 2012 - 11:34 .


#32128
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Oh and btw. I may be on to something concerning brynn cole. But i'm not sure yet. Have to get to cronos station to be sure..which may take some time.

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Agent of the Destroyers. Bringer of Darkness. Shepard's search for Leviathan makes it easier for the Reapers to find him.

Modifié par paxxton, 09 octobre 2012 - 11:36 .


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Also, maybe Leviathan senses the infamous taint of Indoctrination on Shepard. About time someone does because the Prothean VIs are useless in this regard.

Modifié par paxxton, 09 octobre 2012 - 11:42 .


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OMGsideboob wrote...

Spent about 90 mins watching a "documentary" profiling this theory...

I would believe the IT, but they ignore Priority: Horizon and the message sent during the mission... Why would the Reapers attack Sanctuary if its what they wanted you to do all along? Wouldn't they allow you to see this happening and that its a good thing to convince you to do it? Or is that a big mind**** their "attack" only to throw you off and make you go towards it? Considering no actual Reaper ship is used and only disposable converted beings like Banshees, Brutes, etc. are used...

The point was that they want you to think you can control them.
If you get to the point where you might actually stand a chance, suddenly that's objectionable :lol:

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Well, Retaliation starts today. Quite frankly, I don't think the Collectors stand a chance.

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" So are you all ready to bring the might of the IT thread to bear on the Collectors.

"Yes sir."

"Then let's make it quick."

"Never before have all gathered he from all conors of the BSN, but never before have we faced an enemy as this. The Collectors will show us no mercy we shall give them no quater. They will abduct our colonys, and turn our loved ones against us, but we will not faulter. We will prevale. Each of you will be defined by your actions in the upcoming battle. So stand strong. Stand fast. Stand together."

MB out.

#32134
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Again, a reminder of the poll.
It is going to end roughly in three hours.

BTW: If anyone of you fellow ITers wants to bash the Collectors today on PC, my ID is Humblegar. I think I'll start playing in about five hours.
Edit: I get the feeling MB that you really like Hackett.

Modifié par Restrider, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:37 .


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Yep Hackett reminds me of my grandfather's.

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ajk_Jack wrote...

Well, Retaliation starts today. Quite frankly, I don't think the servers stand a chance.


Fixed. :P

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On another note:
Someone said that the London mission felt lackluster and lacked music. Though I agree that the London mission was way too short and you did not see your assets in action, I have to admit that the atmosphere of desperation and horror was very well done. Everything was converging to the final culmination of the trilogy (and then we got Marauder Shields).
Though the Beam Run had no music, I think that the last battle at the Missle Launchers was really well done considering the used music. And boy, that was the hardest part of the whole trilogy. At one point, I moved the heavy weapon to a better position and at the last wave, this heavy weapon disappeared that I had saved for this exact wave. I played for two hours to kill those damned Banshees and all the other mooks. Then I had to reload, because it was impossible (Insanity Difficulty). And the part where the Reaper Destroyer starts shooting at you and there are always two Banshees on the map. I still have nightmares, when I hear those scream. I think I need a therapist.

Modifié par Restrider, 09 octobre 2012 - 12:44 .


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Gwyphon wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...

Well, Retaliation starts today. Quite frankly, I don't think the servers stand a chance.


Fixed. :P


What?! This isn't Blizzard!

:wizard::wizard:

#32139
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@restrider, although i admit that it was hard, it wasn't THAT hard. I did it my first try on insanity. Now that i think about it, the only time i died on my insanity playthrough was marauder shields. He offed me multiple times. Until i figured out that i do not have to aim...spaming the shoot button finally did the magic.

#32140
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Hopefully I can play a bit tonight. Or whenever its actually released.

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Restrider I never had nightmers about that, however I had nightmers back on the Collectors base, when I saw Kelly get liquid fid before my eyes. ( I forgot to go save them right away, and I still needed to go get Legion.) Then there was that scene showing all the Reapers.

That's what sealed the deal. Now when ever I wake up I make sure the skys are clear, and I am not in a pod.

Modifié par masster blaster, 09 octobre 2012 - 01:06 .


#32142
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I'm really not that into multiplayer of ME3.

I'd just hope that Retaliation has some hints toward singleplayer.

Modifié par Jusseb, 09 octobre 2012 - 01:07 .


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Nor am I Juss, but Collectors are back, and I want to give them a royal welcome when they see my Destroyer, and Krogan go head to head with them.

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Skillz1986 wrote...

@restrider, although i admit that it was hard, it wasn't THAT hard. I did it my first try on insanity.


Same here, but it was on a NG+ and I was level 60 (Vanguard).

Didn't even realize there were heavy weapons there.

#32145
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@jusseb

I thought so too. But it can be quite a good time, granted your teammaes are not lunatic vanguars who try to racknup the most kills and end up getting killed the most instead. Don't get me wrong..vanguards player by skilled people are invaluable teammates. But it seems only a handful of people can handle them.

#32146
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Oh and byne,Blurr,Mag,spot,401,DD,TheConstent, and everyone else thanks for the pep talk. I needed that.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Was thinking today...is there a general consensus on whether or not, either the Reaper or the Leviathans, may have been able to "re-purpose" Prothean Beacons to make them do more than just simply act as a communication device - but as a device that can also start the indoctrination process?

This was one of the things that I thought was being implied while watching CW Ep 2...and the "supporting evidence" was Dr. Manuel. I always thought that he had just activated the beacon, and because he did not have as strong of a will as Shep, his mind was broken a little. You get to see the continuation of Dr. Manuel's story in ME 2 wile playing through the Firewalker missions - a story that leads to the discovery of what was believed to be prothean artifacts...artifacts that strike a remarkable resemblance to the Leviathan orbs. Now all but one of these orbs is sent to Cerberus, the odd one out ending up in Shep's cabin as an apparently inert object.

Following these facts and what we learn in Leviathan...it poses several very important questions because of the potential impact on IT:

1. Where are all the objects;
(a) The ones that were sent to Cerberus?
(B) The one that was in Shep's cabin?
2. Were the objects actually inert?
3. IF the object were not inert, did the Leviathan's activate any of them to;
(a) Get a glimpse of the uiverse at their new locations?
(B) Exert their control over any in their presence?
4. IF 3(B) happened, who has been influenced? Shep? TIM? Alliance?
5. And most importantly, how does this impact IT and the endings?

Well, Shep's one would sort-of pulse if you touched it. I always thought they were Prothean spheres due to the in-game email Shep gets after the mission saying something about a burst transmission of data when the big sphere collapsed in on itself. Then again, most things ascribed to Protheans in-game tend to later be revealed as Reaper-tech.

Yeah, I know I am just creating more questions than providing any answers. Frankly I don't know what too make of that sphere, except that it is so similar to the one on Elatania which you can only access with Sha-ira's key.

#32148
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I first played as Vanguard and it was no that difficult (Grissom Acadamy was worse as Vanguard, imho).
When I did that with an Infiltrator and somehow he had the worst weapons/skills to fight barriers, that's where it was impossible.

#32149
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Did it with the soldier class. With energy drain as bonus power. Perfectly strips down barriers.

Back on topic though...does anyone happen to be on cronos station? Or has by chance a savefile which let's him/her repeat the mission?

#32150
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Maybe i'm more the person that thinks that the time developing multiplayer could've been better used to kill the flaws in singelplayer.

But he, you've got to please the crowd.

Modifié par Jusseb, 09 octobre 2012 - 01:21 .