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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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Rifneno

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Skillz1986 wrote...

I have nothing against going off topic from time to time...it's kind of a tradition in this thread. But...gummybears?!?!


Playable gummybears would still be less retarded than volus.

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Now you're just overreacting. I don't like the vlous either..but it's not the end of the world.

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Rifneno wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

I have nothing against going off topic from time to time...it's kind of a tradition in this thread. But...gummybears?!?!


Playable gummybears would still be less retarded than volus.


Damn...this made me think of Ewoks - and now the Volus are the Ewoks of the ME3MP to me. :pinched:

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Skillz1986 wrote...

Now you're just overreacting. I don't like the vlous either..but it's not the end of the world.


1. Accuse others of overreacting.
2. Make out as if they were talking about the apocalypse.
3. ???
4. Intelligent point?

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1.arguing that fighting volus do not fit in with lore (agreed)
2. Saying gummybears would
3.???
4. Intelligent point?

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1. Listing your chain of thought.
2. Feeling clever.
3. ???
4. Intelligent point?

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I'm not the one to act clever..but i'm also not one to give in to the threads very own..always in a bad mood badger. Don't get me wrong rif, no hostility towards you. But you've been raging about the volus the past two days (i think) AS IF it was the end of the world for you...you won't change anything. So just go kick some collector ass (wish i could..it's not out yet in germany) and be done with it.

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Skillz1986 wrote...

I'm not the one to act clever..but i'm also not one to give in to the threads very own..always in a bad mood badger. Don't get me wrong rif, no hostility towards you. But you've been raging about the volus the past two days (i think) AS IF it was the end of the world for you...you won't change anything. So just go kick some collector ass (wish i could..it's not out yet in germany) and be done with it.

Yeah, the constant b*tching does get tiresome. But then so does blaster's (childish? enthusiastic?) crusades, insane literalist invasions and OT trains. All of this not having much to do with IT. It is what it is, ITer's home away from home, and every home has a disfunctional family in it. It's not always a bad thing though...

On Topic: If Refuse were different (not the middle finger we seem to have gotten), would that have been a valid choice to throw off the indoctranation attempt?

Modifié par Kyrene, 10 octobre 2012 - 12:19 .


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Sheesh, what's with all the Vol Clan hate? As far as I've been able to tell based on what I've seen, they're fine. And if the Quarians can fight, then the Volus can fight. All it takes is a custom modded suit of armor.

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@dwailing

Shhhh...they're going to hear you...don't start that discussion again...ah whatever..it will start sooner or later so...
I don't like them from a lore and story telling point of virw. Haven't played with any, so u can't tell how the contribute to a team. All summed up...i do not really care about them being included to mpm

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I think I like volus a little more each time I see the glorious nerdrage.

Modifié par Cyberfrog81, 10 octobre 2012 - 01:28 .


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Skillz1986 wrote...

@dwailing

Shhhh...they're going to hear you...don't start that discussion again...ah whatever..it will start sooner or later so...
I don't like them from a lore and story telling point of virw. Haven't played with any, so u can't tell how the contribute to a team. All summed up...i do not really care about them being included to mpm


Well, from the point of view of the lore, I don't see WHY the Volus couldn't fight.  I mean, it says that they rely of the the Turians for protection, not that they can't fight at all.  And they have one of the most powerful dreadnoughts in existance.  And like I said, I know they wear suits for a different reason from the Quarians, but I still don't see why, if the Quarians can fight, they can't fight.  And from a gameplay perspective, they're quite effective.

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Dwailing wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

@dwailing

Shhhh...they're going to hear you...don't start that discussion again...ah whatever..it will start sooner or later so...
I don't like them from a lore and story telling point of virw. Haven't played with any, so u can't tell how the contribute to a team. All summed up...i do not really care about them being included to mpm


Well, from the point of view of the lore, I don't see WHY the Volus couldn't fight.  I mean, it says that they rely of the the Turians for protection, not that they can't fight at all.  And they have one of the most powerful dreadnoughts in existance.  And like I said, I know they wear suits for a different reason from the Quarians, but I still don't see why, if the Quarians can fight, they can't fight.  And from a gameplay perspective, they're quite effective.


The lore actually says that they can fight, just that they aren't very good at it.  Remember, client races of the turians still serve time in auxillary roles supporting the main military before they get full citizenship.  So, while the volus may have arranged a special deal of some kind, I am sure that some of them still served as support soldiers.  And that is exactly what they are in MP: a support class.   We may play as elite strike teams but, out of an entire species, some volus HAVE to be good enough to qualify as an elite support soldier.

Besides, the galaxy is fighting for its very survival.  If it meant saving your species as well as everyone else, if you fighting would help the cause the most, even if you are a terrible combatant, wouldn't you volunteer?

I'm with you, Dwailing.  All of this volus hate really baffles me but I'd give it a week or two before it all blows over and the volus are accepted...people will actually learn how they should be played by then

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So um anything new that is not the V word. Also We should make a list of all the people Indoctrinated by the Reapers.

Major Indoctinated people
Saren
TIM
Kenson
Grayson
And so on

Minor Indoctrinated people
Rana
The ME3 queen, if you killed the other queen in ME1
And so on
Coats's mabye

Last but not least people non Indoctrinated.
Grunt
Jack
Legion
Miranda
Hackett
Anderson
Vega ( for now if proven he is Indoctrinated, is being.)
Ash
Liara
Wrex
Mordin
And so on.

And to top it off we only use on quote from a character, and we use the best quote that fits's the endings.

I say we do this because for the one's that just played and only played ME3. They don't know what happened in ME2, or ME1 if they didn't have comic that let's themchoose, yet they only get a small portion of the game when they just choose the major chocies in the comic book.

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Dwailing um the volus don't have the most powerful dreadnought if you have the Destiny Ascention. :)

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@ dwailing

I'm not saying they can't fight. I'm saying they should not be able to run, or make combat rolls. Think about it, they can't even finish a sentence without taking a deep breath, and all of a sudden they are world class athletes, is all i am saying. But as mentioned before, i am not offnded or anything by the inclusion of the volus, i'm just saying i will not play as one.

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The constent one, then I hope Bioware mp creators make Elcor, and Hanar troops since they had to bring volus out in MP. On that note I want my elcor tank, and they should bring specters to MP, since they brought N7 opratives, Justicars, battlemasters, and so on.

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TheConstantOne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Skillz1986 wrote...

@dwailing

Shhhh...they're going to hear you...don't start that discussion again...ah whatever..it will start sooner or later so...
I don't like them from a lore and story telling point of virw. Haven't played with any, so u can't tell how the contribute to a team. All summed up...i do not really care about them being included to mpm


Well, from the point of view of the lore, I don't see WHY the Volus couldn't fight.  I mean, it says that they rely of the the Turians for protection, not that they can't fight at all.  And they have one of the most powerful dreadnoughts in existance.  And like I said, I know they wear suits for a different reason from the Quarians, but I still don't see why, if the Quarians can fight, they can't fight.  And from a gameplay perspective, they're quite effective.


The lore actually says that they can fight, just that they aren't very good at it.  Remember, client races of the turians still serve time in auxillary roles supporting the main military before they get full citizenship.  So, while the volus may have arranged a special deal of some kind, I am sure that some of them still served as support soldiers.  And that is exactly what they are in MP: a support class.   We may play as elite strike teams but, out of an entire species, some volus HAVE to be good enough to qualify as an elite support soldier.

Besides, the galaxy is fighting for its very survival.  If it meant saving your species as well as everyone else, if you fighting would help the cause the most, even if you are a terrible combatant, wouldn't you volunteer?

I'm with you, Dwailing.  All of this volus hate really baffles me but I'd give it a week or two before it all blows over and the volus are accepted...people will actually learn how they should be played by then


Right.  Morbidly obese midgets who move at the speed of a gimp tortoise and blow up at the slightest suit puncture are totally fine for the most high risk strike op missions possible because the codex mentions auxillary troops and that couldn't possibly mean they're behind the front lines doing something they're actually capable of.

This idiocy makes Deception look like good writing.

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masster blaster wrote...

The constent one, then I hope Bioware mp creators make Elcor, and Hanar troops since they had to bring volus out in MP. On that note I want my elcor tank, and they should bring specters to MP, since they brought N7 opratives, Justicars, battlemasters, and so on.


A Biotic God riding on the back of an Elcor Tank! God Bioware MAKE IT SO!!

I mean it isn't like SP is going to get any better lol. The most we can hope for is more pre ending DLC to 'expand' the story of Commander Shepard and possibly provide more 'hints' at a sequel or the state of the galaxy post RGB.

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Rifneno wrote...

Right.  Morbidly obese midgets who move at the speed of a gimp tortoise and blow up at the slightest suit puncture are totally fine for the most high risk strike op missions possible because the codex mentions auxillary troops and that couldn't possibly mean they're behind the front lines doing something they're actually capable of.

This idiocy makes Deception look like good writing.


To be fair this is Bioware's lore and they can do what they want with it.

Just look at the endings! :wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:

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So what to you think about my idea guys about the list?

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Skillz1986 wrote...

@ dwailing

I'm not saying they can't fight. I'm saying they should not be able to run, or make combat rolls. Think about it, they can't even finish a sentence without taking a deep breath, and all of a sudden they are world class athletes, is all i am saying. But as mentioned before, i am not offnded or anything by the inclusion of the volus, i'm just saying i will not play as one.

Or just switch off running when playing one... Posted Image

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Ithurael wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Right.  Morbidly obese midgets who move at the speed of a gimp tortoise and blow up at the slightest suit puncture are totally fine for the most high risk strike op missions possible because the codex mentions auxillary troops and that couldn't possibly mean they're behind the front lines doing something they're actually capable of.

This idiocy makes Deception look like good writing.


To be fair this is Bioware's lore and they can do what they want with it.

Just look at the endings! :wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:


"It's BW's lore and they can contradict and invalidate it all they want with no explanation because lulz."  And people wonder why I'm pissy.

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Badger I see your point, yet the others are right. FFZero came up with a good idea, but most of these people that play MP are spraging every where, and runnging up to Banshees on Gold as volus. I am sorry FFZero but Volus can be killed in almost on or two shot if you play on Platinum, and Gold.

But since Bioware gave the fans Volus for mp, then they better do two thing.

Elcor tanks, Hanar, and Specters for MP. Giving the fans what they want.

Last IT giving the fans what they want. Literalist have their ending, while we have ours. It's a win win.

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On the topic of MP, what do you guys think of the new title background stuff? Any favorites?