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[Either.Ardrey]

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So NYCC starts tomorrow, right?
Omega's getting its release date there, right?

October 30th seems to be the prevailing assumption.

9-Week Gap Rule!

Not necessarily. You can't really make a valid rule out of one instance (EC to Leviathan). It could easily be about 9 weeks, or a range of 9-x weeks. It could even be a series unified by a function, such as 3,6,12...(X x 2) or 3,9,27...(X^2) or 9,10,11...(X + 1).

After all 10 weeks is about 9 weeks, and would be the week of Nov. 7th (aka N7 day).

But there are hints in Vancouver to support the 9-Week Gap Rule/Law. Jack-o-Lantern, to be specific.

Which, until confirmed or denied, is still pure conjecture. Even so, the Jack-o-Lantern could just mean around Halloween, which fits both the 30th of October and the 6th/7th of November (meaning late October/early November).

[masster blaster]

Hey what if TIM, and Saren had to chocie on of the endings.

Think about this. We know what Indoctrination sounds like, and looks like, but we don't know if they have a choice to make.

It's like what if TIM meet a ghost apperence of his dead friends, and they offered him to either Control the Reapers to help humanity become the Dominate race in the galaxy.

Destroy the Reapers/ stop them, but in the process it will doom humanity to exstinction.

Maybe that's why TIM says " I think Destroying the Reapers will be a huge mistake we ever made."

Just like we said everyone has a chocie to make.

You can either refuse to do anything, and let the Reapers win---- Kenson

You can either let the Reapers Control Shepard in Control----TIM

You can either let Harbinger study Shepard's DNA and give the Reapers Shepard's personalitys---- Saren

Or you can fight the Reapers no matter what the cost are.--- Shepard/ everyone non Indoctrinated.


" Maybe your right. Maybe we can't win, but we will fight you non the less. We will fight. We will sacrifce, and we will find another way."

Arrival.

Shepard begins to doubt.

[masster blaster]

Exellent point Bill, and this combind with Synthesis is just Harbinger all over it.

Also Did anyone ever notice that when we were talking with TIM on the mars mission, TIM had Harbinger on his screen.

He takes his orders from Harbinger.

Also did it ever occur to anyone that Bioware kept reminding us about Harbinger.

The profile of Harbinger on TIM's screen.
The codex of Harbinger.
The Leviathans
Omega
Earth
The Destroyer Reaper giving a message to Shepard.
Hackett telling us that Harbinger is going to Earth.
Talking with the Catalyst about Harbinger.

It's all there.

[paxxton]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So NYCC starts tomorrow, right?
Omega's getting its release date there, right?

October 30th seems to be the prevailing assumption.

9-Week Gap Rule!

Not necessarily. You can't really make a valid rule out of one instance (EC to Leviathan). It could easily be about 9 weeks, or a range of 9-x weeks. It could even be a series unified by a function, such as 3,6,12...(X x 2) or 3,9,27...(X^2) or 9,10,11...(X + 1).

After all 10 weeks is about 9 weeks, and would be the week of Nov. 7th (aka N7 day).

But there are hints in Vancouver to support the 9-Week Gap Rule/Law. Jack-o-Lantern, to be specific.

Which, until confirmed or denied, is still pure conjecture. Even so, the Jack-o-Lantern could just mean around Halloween, which fits both the 30th of October and the 6th/7th of November (meaning late October/early November).

*sigh* Ok, let's call it the 9-Week Gap Hypothesis Theory.  Still, it's grounded in strong evidence.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:08 .

[Either.Ardrey]

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So NYCC starts tomorrow, right?
Omega's getting its release date there, right?

October 30th seems to be the prevailing assumption.

9-Week Gap Rule!

Not necessarily. You can't really make a valid rule out of one instance (EC to Leviathan). It could easily be about 9 weeks, or a range of 9-x weeks. It could even be a series unified by a function, such as 3,6,12...(X x 2) or 3,9,27...(X^2) or 9,10,11...(X + 1).

After all 10 weeks is about 9 weeks, and would be the week of Nov. 7th (aka N7 day).

But there are hints in Vancouver to support the 9-Week Gap Rule/Law. Jack-o-Lantern, to be specific.

Which, until confirmed or denied, is still pure conjecture. Even so, the Jack-o-Lantern could just mean around Halloween, which fits both the 30th of October and the 6th/7th of November (meaning late October/early November).

*sigh* Ok, let's call it the 9-Week Gap Hypothesis Theory.  Still, it's grounded in strong evidence.

Ok. ^_^Where do you stand on in terms of the Cake and the Present? I don't remember what those were supposed to be for.

Modifié par Either.Ardrey, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:13 .

[paxxton]

SwobyJ wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

Be that as it may Paxton, but they know that without Shepard the current cycle is "Just another harvest". They would want Shepard to prove himself to be capable before being ascended as the head of the human Reaper...

I assume that Harbinger had already decided to possess Shepard before he embarked on the mission to fight the Collectors.

I think after ME1, Shepard dead was fine. Cue Collector Ship attack.

During ME2, with Shepard back, it was dead or alive. We hear this from his quotes.

After Collector Base, BRING SHEPARD ALIVE.

And by end of ME3, I NEED HIS MIND INTACT.

He has to crack this 'anomaly' before it 'spreads'.


That doesn't mean that Harbinger wouldn't prefer to have Shepard alive from the start, but it becomes increasingly more prioritized over time, especially with IT in context.

When did Harbinger wanted Shepard alive after the Collector Base? In Arrival?

Oh, I think he wanted his mind intact as early as in ME2.

[paxxton]

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So NYCC starts tomorrow, right?
Omega's getting its release date there, right?

October 30th seems to be the prevailing assumption.

9-Week Gap Rule!

Not necessarily. You can't really make a valid rule out of one instance (EC to Leviathan). It could easily be about 9 weeks, or a range of 9-x weeks. It could even be a series unified by a function, such as 3,6,12...(X x 2) or 3,9,27...(X^2) or 9,10,11...(X + 1).

After all 10 weeks is about 9 weeks, and would be the week of Nov. 7th (aka N7 day).

But there are hints in Vancouver to support the 9-Week Gap Rule/Law. Jack-o-Lantern, to be specific.

Which, until confirmed or denied, is still pure conjecture. Even so, the Jack-o-Lantern could just mean around Halloween, which fits both the 30th of October and the 6th/7th of November (meaning late October/early November).

*sigh* Ok, let's call it the 9-Week Gap Hypothesis Theory.  Still, it's grounded in strong evidence.

Ok. ^_^Where do you stand on in terms of the Cake and the Present? I don't remember what those were supposed to be for.

The Present could relate either to the EC (not planned, released after fan outcry to make them happy) or to Christmas. The Cake symbolizes the 1st Anniversary of ME3.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:25 .

[401 Kill]

The one year anniversary of ME3 is nine weeks after New Years. (See top post of page for reference).

[paxxton]

401 Kill wrote...

The one year anniversary of ME3 is nine weeks after New Years. (See top post of page for reference).

I know that.

[401 Kill]

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]401 Kill wrote...

The one year anniversary of ME3 is nine weeks after New Years. (See top post of page for reference).[/quote]
I know that. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

[401 Kill]

[quote]401 Kill wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]401 Kill wrote...

The one year anniversary of ME3 is nine weeks after New Years. (See top post of page for reference).[/quote]
I know that. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/smile.png[/smilie]

[/quote]I'm just puttin' that out thereB).

[401 Kill]

Sorry, the quoting screwed up... I apologize.

[Bill Casey]

masster blaster wrote...

Also Did anyone ever notice that when we were talking with TIM on the mars mission, TIM had Harbinger on his screen.

He takes his orders from Harbinger.

I believe that's the data we recovered from the Collector base at the end of Mass Effect 2...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:38 .

[paxxton]

You're messing with BSN.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 octobre 2012 - 12:39 .

[masster blaster]

Bill, but I find it funny that it was a sign from Bioware that " Oh hey look Harbinger is on TIM's screen. Why is TIM reading about Harbinger?" Maybe TIM knows something about Harbinger, that we don't know about yet.

Omega anyone. Also I think Harbinger is the one talking to TIM/Jack in Evolution. You get that ominus feeling vib when you read the voices talking to TIM in his head.

[masster blaster]

Think about it SwobyJ Harbinger still wanted Shepard's corpse, and guess what was intact.

His/her brain.

[401 Kill]

masster blaster wrote...

Think about it SwobyJ Harbinger still wanted Shepard's corpse, and guess what was intact.

His/her brain.

Yes, but after Shepard was returned to life, they wanted Shepard alive. A dead Shepard would be usefull, an alive Shepard would be even more usefull. If he proves to be "worthy" of being taken alive. And Shepard proves that he is up to the task by destroying his Collector Base (or wiping out the collectors there and the Proto-Reaper if you kept the base).

[masster blaster]

True four zero one, and swobyJ

Modifié par masster blaster, 11 octobre 2012 - 01:23 .

[CmdrShep80]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

CmdrShep80 wrote...
...
Destroy you will not lose what you've already lost
...

Now make a choice below based on what you just read:

blue green black red

I see what you did there. good objectivication. Though, the one I've left up there: had to read it twice...

Though, no matter in what way it is formatted, or in whatever context the choices are put, their ultimate flaw (to me) lies within the presentation of them.
Maybe a player who is used to having faith in certain things has it easier on this than someone who's rather used to questioning things:

In order to pick a color, I have to base my decision-process on the description of the choices - the source of whom is part of (or the single most) untrustworthy instance in the galaxy.
So, if the source is unrelyable, how can I choose properly? Why should one color be more legit than the other?

Analogy (sort of):
A stranger offers some kid a bag of Gummy Bears. He tells the kid:
the blues are tranquilizers,
the greens give more Bears,
the reds are poisenous but then he'll leave me be.
(I can also walk away or pick one Bear and throw it away but then he'll probably kill me).

IMO, there is no real choice here, the situation itself is sick.

Or maybe I'm not playing the game correctly.

There's always another way.
http://www.youtube.c...XDgFwE13g#t=75s

Yep the quote I put in there that says:  You will not lose more than you've already lost is so strategically placed and strangely worded that I think most people over looked it and heard something else.  It's like trying to find all 7 "f"s in a paragraph.  You miss one.

It is interesting that the soundtrack attached to the destroy ending for the EC is titled:  "The ending many will never see."  I posted on the EC soundtrack a couple of days ago but people I think missed it

[CmdrShep80]

Skillz1986 wrote...

I have nothing against going off topic from time to time...it's kind of a tradition in this thread. But...gummybears?!?!

See the posts earlier.  I was trying to explain how throwing in a bunch of different statements and colors could mess everyone up and have the risk of choosing the wrong color

[TSA_383]

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Either.Ardrey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

401 Kill wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So NYCC starts tomorrow, right?
Omega's getting its release date there, right?

October 30th seems to be the prevailing assumption.

9-Week Gap Rule!

Not necessarily. You can't really make a valid rule out of one instance (EC to Leviathan). It could easily be about 9 weeks, or a range of 9-x weeks. It could even be a series unified by a function, such as 3,6,12...(X x 2) or 3,9,27...(X^2) or 9,10,11...(X + 1).

After all 10 weeks is about 9 weeks, and would be the week of Nov. 7th (aka N7 day).

But there are hints in Vancouver to support the 9-Week Gap Rule/Law. Jack-o-Lantern, to be specific.

Which, until confirmed or denied, is still pure conjecture. Even so, the Jack-o-Lantern could just mean around Halloween, which fits both the 30th of October and the 6th/7th of November (meaning late October/early November).

*sigh* Ok, let's call it the 9-Week Gap Hypothesis Theory.  Still, it's grounded in strong evidence Pure, baseless speculation.

FTFY

[CmdrShep80]

masster blaster wrote...

I hate people saying TIM was always good. No he hasn't I don't care if people are giving him the overlook he is evil ever since Evolution.

After Jack looses his friends he has nothing left to live for, or keep his mind under his Control.

Jack argued that Saren's brother could not Control the Meta Turians, and he was right, and now we see TIM doing what Saren's brother did in Evolution, only he want's to Control the Reapers.

Also Cerberus goes way to far, and I don't mean the good way, but the horrible ways.

Look at Toombs, Admiral Kahoko, and his men. Hell in ME1 Cerberus put Colonist on the Dragon's teeth for experiment. They also trapped coloinst down in the mines, and they became husk.

Their are so many things I can say about Cerberus, but they always say " we have groups that act out side our sources." BS TIM knew about the archives, the Shadowbroker, and a lot of things he never told us about.

Also I don't think he was Indoctrinated in ME2, but was under the infulence of the Reapers.

Think about it. Read the articals about Cerberus, they target Military stations, politcal figuers, the galactic Economy, and more. They have been weakening the galaxy slowly, and unkowingly helping the Reapers, as Saren did, the Geth, and so many others.

Don't forget true indoctrination where the thrall lasts for years is done slowly over time  So it's potentially plausible he was slowly indoctrinated since he touched the beacon in the comic.  Do you notice the meta turians are actually turian reaper husks or something like that

[CmdrShep80]

SwobyJ wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...

Humakt83 wrote...

No. Whatever his plans were, are long gone. All he could reveal at that point is Reapers' plans.

It's possible that TIM could still have more to do than we already know, especially if the final confrontation with him is all a dream. In the end, he was certainly under Reaper control, but just in the previous mission, the attack on the Cerberus Base, he seemed fine.

If Citadel+Crucible is a dream, then Anderson is just the idea of what Shepard sees Anderson as, and TIM is just the idea of what Shepard sees TIM becoming (which is clear when you listen to Shepard's dialogue in TIM conversations).

It also explains why Anderson's dialogue is adjusted a bit depending on whether you romanced anyone or not. He's a reflection of Shepard's positive feelings towards others, but also himself. This is being slowly eroded by the indoctrinated part of himself, which he has kept at bay until Thessia, due to mostly single-minded faith in this cycle and the Crucible plan.

I'm curious, if you're playing as a Paragon, why do you shoot Anderson in the end?