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[spotlessvoid]

You're ridiculous and pathetic. You're not in here to discuss IT. You're just here to complain.

[masster blaster]

I am serious most synthesiers became active after I went to there thread. Also um Control, and Synthesis have a lot of things in comman.

You can say the same for Destroy, but no Synthesis, and Control together " Reaper Indoctrination..."

Also we call the child/ the Catalyst at the end " God child." Really "...or viewing the Reaper it'self with superstishes awe."

[Ithurael]

masster blaster wrote...

Also Xil really I guess the Catalyst died in Synthesis. Their should be no way a beam of green energu that only changes DNA should Destroy the Citadel.

I can see Destroy, but Control all it does is gain Control of the Reapers, and no Citadel blowing up.

In Literal sense it makes no sense. IT it does.

My two cents on the bold part - because synthesis I know does not make any sense.

In all endings the starkid dies. In destroy he dies, in control he is replaced, in synthesis he dies (citadel blows up and his 'mission' is fulfilled).

The reason the citadel doesn't blow up is because it was just doing a copy paste of the new catalyst code to all the reapers - they still need the citadel to control the reapers.

[Xilizhra]

spotlessvoid wrote...

You're ridiculous and pathetic. You're not in here to discuss IT. You're just here to complain.

Actually, my first post in here a while back was to give an alternate version of IT that I thought we could compromise on, one where there's an indoctrination attempt, but Shepard can break through it regardless of choice at the end. Then you were the one who started complaining about that and making the case that IT is about being exclusionary and ensuring that only your personal preference is the right choice. I have since responded.

[demersel]

Ithurael wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Also Xil really I guess the Catalyst died in Synthesis. Their should be no way a beam of green energu that only changes DNA should Destroy the Citadel.

I can see Destroy, but Control all it does is gain Control of the Reapers, and no Citadel blowing up.

In Literal sense it makes no sense. IT it does.

My two cents on the bold part - because synthesis I know does not make any sense.

In all endings the starkid dies. In destroy he dies, in control he is replaced, in synthesis he dies (citadel blows up and his 'mission' is fulfilled).

The reason the citadel doesn't blow up is because it was just doing a copy paste of the new catalyst code to all the reapers - they still need the citadel to control the reapers.

How is citadel controlling the reapers? ))) 

[Xilizhra]

How is citadel controlling the reapers? )))

The Catalyst is located in the Citadel and is still necessary for control.

[spotlessvoid]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

You're ridiculous and pathetic. You're not in here to discuss IT. You're just here to complain.

Actually, my first post in here a while back was to give an alternate version of IT that I thought we could compromise on, one where there's an indoctrination attempt, but Shepard can break through it regardless of choice at the end. Then you were the one who started complaining about that and making the case that IT is about being exclusionary and ensuring that only your personal preference is the right choice. I have since responded.

lol. it's IT...but its not because you cant actually get indoctrinated. 

[masster blaster]

Xil we talked about that long ago in Mark2, we were trying to see if there is a way to still pick the other chocies, but the cost would be to great.

Yet I think in Control we will not Control Shepard, but the Reapers.

[spotlessvoid]

And why would a thread with thousands of pages of speculation by hundreds of users need to comprise with you? Your idea was basically the antithesis of IT. It want even itcon (now deception theory) it was just literal with **** makeup on.


where do you get off thinking you need to "turn" us to your side. I dont go to your threads and complain constantly do I?

Nobody here is buying what you are selling. go somewhete else

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:05 .

[Xilizhra]

spotlessvoid wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

You're ridiculous and pathetic. You're not in here to discuss IT. You're just here to complain.

Actually, my first post in here a while back was to give an alternate version of IT that I thought we could compromise on, one where there's an indoctrination attempt, but Shepard can break through it regardless of choice at the end. Then you were the one who started complaining about that and making the case that IT is about being exclusionary and ensuring that only your personal preference is the right choice. I have since responded.

lol. it's IT...but its not because you cant actually get indoctrinated. 

Maybe if you pick Refusal, but I'd allow for that to become valid even then. It'd probably please more people who wanted to stick to their guns. Indoctrination will have been used as a plot point, but Shepard will beat it regardless because she's Shepard and awesome like that.

And why would a thread with thousands of pages of speculation by
hundreds of users not to comprise with you? Your idea was basically the
antithesis of IT. It want even itcon (now deception theory) it was just
literal with **** makeup on.

But it's not literal. You'd still get to get past the Catalyst and battle Harbinger at the end.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:04 .

[Andromidius]

demersel wrote...

TOS was a much bigger failure than ME3.   
frankly, ME3 was a huge success.

Yep.  And its still treated like a second class product by EA.

Makes you wonder how they made any money in the first place.

[BatmanTurian]

I'm so, so tired of the "Genocide" argument, as if the other two choices aren't " Passive-Aggressive Dictator for Eternity" and "Galactic Rape and Homogenisation"

This is their newest "argument". They can't win the argument with logic or facts so they resort to what is essentially name-calling and passing judgement on the player for the collateral deaths of pixels. We're supposed to feel guilty for killing fictional characters as a byproduct of stopping omnicidal walking graveyards.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:07 .

[demersel]

Xilizhra wrote...

How is citadel controlling the reapers? )))

The Catalyst is located in the Citadel and is still necessary for control.

So the thing that controls all reapers is located on the citadel? Wow. never knew that... Does it control the citadel, or is it just like some stowaway thingy, that just happens to be there? 

Modifié par demersel, 11 octobre 2012 - 05:05 .

[paxxton]

What's TOS?

[demersel]

Andromidius wrote...

demersel wrote...

TOS was a much bigger failure than ME3.   
frankly, ME3 was a huge success.

Yep.  And its still treated like a second class product by EA.

Makes you wonder how they made any money in the first place.

It is not treated as a second class product by EA. Really. Mass Effect 3 is among top five biggest and most bad ass non sport related EA games.

[Xilizhra]

demersel wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

How is citadel controlling the reapers? )))

The Catalyst is located in the Citadel and is still necessary for control.

So the thing that controls all reapers is located on the citadel? Wow. never knew that... Does it control the citadel, or is it just like some stowaway thingy, that just happens to be there? 

I think the Citadel was built around it.

[spotlessvoid]

" But it's not literal. You'd still get to get past the Catalyst and battle Harbinger at the end."

You just can't let go of this idea that it's impossible to make the wrong choice can you? If all choices are valid and lead to the exact same boss battle, wtf is the point?

[demersel]

paxxton wrote...

What's TOS?

Oh. The old Republic.  TOR. sorry. Got a typho. 

[Either.Ardrey]

Xilizhra wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

" Oh, this is rich. You yourself want to ensure that your side consists of the only special snowflakes. I'm sure you'd not be taking this attitude if Bioware announced that Synthesis would be canon."

Uh NO. Bioware wrote the endings, not me. I just realized that they foreshadowed what choice was right the entire series. And synthesis is galactic rape. If Bioware ever chose that they would be dead to me. A LOT more people hate synthesis than dislike destroy.

So you claim. So I doubt. But in that case, I'm tempted to say "bring it on:" I'd love to see the reaction that'd be had to Bioware saying that Synthesis would be canon.

I don't know about anyone else, but for me, my reactions to canon-ization (in terms of what I think Bioware is trying to express) would the following:

-Synthesis - "Believe in Space Magic, you fools!:wizard:"
-Control - "Believe in Space Magic, you fools![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]"
-Destroy - "Believe in Space Magic, you fools![smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]"

-Refuse - "Die, you fools!" (current)  or "Fight and win on your own terms, you fools!" (if DLC + EMS provided by it ends up changing the endings in such a manner)

-IT - "Wake up, you fools!"

[masster blaster]

Xil you don't get it do. Shepard can't just give a speech and refuse to become Indoctrinated. No it doesn't work like that. Also Kenson refused to Destroy the Reapers/ stop them, and she was Indoctrinated.

So we have three endings where Shepard becomes Indoctrinated, and 1 that Shepard only fights the Indoctrination.

Never before has a person fought Indoctrination and won. In the end the person becomes the Reapers slave, yet Shepard can only fight it, like he/she has always said.

" Fight it!"

" You could have fought."

[Xilizhra]

spotlessvoid wrote...

" But it's not literal. You'd still get to get past the Catalyst and battle Harbinger at the end."

You just can't let go of this idea that it's impossible to make the wrong choice can you? If all choices are valid and lead to the exact same boss battle, wtf is the point?

The point is that you, the Destroy pickers, would get the exact same story that you would in your current theory. You'd break out of indoctrination via your own means and fight Harbinger. What happened to Shepard in the other choices would have nothing to do with you. You have no reason to care about the fate of non-Destroy Shepards and no reason to oppose them getting a decent ending too.

[paxxton]

Mass Effect is not an EA game. It was only adopted by them.

[Dwailing]

spotlessvoid wrote...

" But it's not literal. You'd still get to get past the Catalyst and battle Harbinger at the end."

You just can't let go of this idea that it's impossible to make the wrong choice can you? If all choices are valid and lead to the exact same boss battle, wtf is the point?

I think about it like the suicide mission.  You could make the wrong choice in the suicide mission and get someone killed, you can make the wrong choice here and get someone killed.  I really don't see the difference.

[Andromidius]

demersel wrote...

It is not treated as a second class product by EA. Really. Mass Effect 3 is among top five biggest and most bad ass non sport related EA games.

Statements from EA say otherwise.  Not to mention how hard it is to find on their websites, way under all the sports games and even Medal of Honor.

They don't take it as seriously as they should.  Hense why they rushed Bioware to get it out of the door.

[demersel]

[quote]Xilizhra wrote...

So the thing that controls all reapers is located on the citadel? Wow. never knew that... Does it control the citadel, or is it just like some stowaway thingy, that just happens to be there? 

[/quote]
I think the Citadel was built around it.
[/quote]

Ok, but is it connected to a catalist, or is it just like some huge whale shark, with the catalyst being some kind of remora, just riding it?