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CoolioThane wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

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Leviathan won't be a big reveleation, just confirmed by Mike Gamble. Leviathan DLC will NOT change any of the endings, it will only give you more information about the Reapers.

Wait for future DLCs, no?


Lol you're a bit ignorant aren't you ;)

It can be a huge revelation without "changing" the ending though we know the ending is changed as there's more dialogue and stuff. You're wrong :)


Why use the word Ignorant when you don't know what it means? :huh:

Leviathan is going to be what everyone expect, the first Reaper- which is the creator of the Catalyst. He gained the acknowledgement and self-awareness, whereas other Reapers are all under the control of the Catalyst. Leviathan disagreed with it's methods, and killed one reaper- and fled the scene, only to hide until this event. 

Massive-revelations based on common sense and pre-statements made by the Catalyst. It's all spoiler-based, and we might get more information on the "Creators" , but expecting some plot-twist scenario and grandeur of smacktalk with the Catalyst is just desperate and delusional. 

Mike Gamble even stated, and confirmed that they won't 'change' the endings, as in- the "FU Catalyst" child won't result in a victory, all endings will remain the same, you might get some banter, but it'll be pointless in the end. Bioware themself have said that the Shepard journey is now concluded with the ending you recieved in EC.

Why do people persist on still strangling onto their fictional story to become canon, because it's not going to happend, and I honestly wish some people would see this already, it's basic 101 business stuff. 

"Big Revelations, and important-story arc and conclussion to the ME3 Endings, for yours only for the bargain price of 10$!" SUPPPPPERRRRRRRR :police:


Lol you act like you know what everything will contain. You're wrong you don't know for certain what's going to happen and by calling us delusional you come across as a ****.

Ignoring everyone and everything ignoring everything everyone says I's being ignorant  wanker wanker


He already said on a nother thread, that IT is false, so that's it. But he wishes that IT was real, but that's is oponion, and I am sertinly not looking for his aprovell.

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Just had a thought about the Leviathan trailer.
What if the line "You have come too far" wasn't directed to Shepard, but a(nother) Reaper, maybe even Harbinger ?

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SirLugash wrote...

Just had a thought about the Leviathan trailer.
What if the line "You have come too far" wasn't directed to Shepard, but a(nother) Reaper, maybe even Harbinger ?


Maybe, or Bioware is telling us ITers that WE have come to far.:D

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SirLugash wrote...

Just had a thought about the Leviathan trailer.
What if the line "You have come too far" wasn't directed to Shepard, but a(nother) Reaper, maybe even Harbinger ?

Interesting. Maybe Leviathan aims at upsetting the balance of power among the Reapers. That could produce some serious implications. Lots of fireworks.

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Fingertrip wrote...

CoolioThane wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

Leviathan won't be a big reveleation, just confirmed by Mike Gamble. Leviathan DLC will NOT change any of the endings, it will only give you more information about the Reapers.

Wait for future DLCs, no?


Lol you're a bit ignorant aren't you ;)

It can be a huge revelation without "changing" the ending though we know the ending is changed as there's more dialogue and stuff. You're wrong :)


Why use the word Ignorant when you don't know what it means? :huh:

Leviathan is going to be what everyone expect, the first Reaper- which is the creator of the Catalyst. He gained the acknowledgement and self-awareness, whereas other Reapers are all under the control of the Catalyst. Leviathan disagreed with it's methods, and killed one reaper- and fled the scene, only to hide until this event. 

Massive-revelations based on common sense and pre-statements made by the Catalyst. It's all spoiler-based, and we might get more information on the "Creators" , but expecting some plot-twist scenario and grandeur of smacktalk with the Catalyst is just desperate and delusional. 

Mike Gamble even stated, and confirmed that they won't 'change' the endings, as in- the "FU Catalyst" child won't result in a victory, all endings will remain the same, you might get some banter, but it'll be pointless in the end. Bioware themself have said that the Shepard journey is now concluded with the ending you recieved in EC.

Why do people persist on still strangling onto their fictional story to become canon, because it's not going to happend, and I honestly wish some people would see this already, it's basic 101 business stuff. 

"Big Revelations, and important-story arc and conclussion to the ME3 Endings, for yours only for the bargain price of 10$!" SUPPPPPERRRRRRRR :police:

As the Leviathan is described as mostly organic I would would rather assume it is one of the tries the Guardian states it made to achieve synthesis.

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paxxton wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

Just had a thought about the Leviathan trailer.
What if the line "You have come too far" wasn't directed to Shepard, but a(nother) Reaper, maybe even Harbinger ?

Interesting. Maybe Leviathan aims at upsetting the balance of power among the Reapers. That could produce some serious implications. Lots of fireworks.


The Reaper did not sound like Harby, more like our old Reaper friend from ME1. Also that's Leviathan for sure, but as i said I think that what the Reaper said to Shepard, was directed at us ITers because we have come to far from discovering what their plans are.

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masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

Just had a thought about the Leviathan trailer.
What if the line "You have come too far" wasn't directed to Shepard, but a(nother) Reaper, maybe even Harbinger ?

Interesting. Maybe Leviathan aims at upsetting the balance of power among the Reapers. That could produce some serious implications. Lots of fireworks.


The Reaper did not sound like Harby, more like ouor old Reaper friend from ME1. Also that's Leviathan for sure, but as i said I think that what the Reaper said to Shepard, was directed at us ITers because we have come to far from discovering what their plans are.

I know that it was Leviathan's voice. Just saying what it could mean if he was saying that to Harbinger.

So you are saying that that line is something like "So be IT." Could be.
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I hope BioWare realizes that with the amount of spoilers you guys post here everyday soon there won't be any sense in releasing the DLC. They'd better hurry up.

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Eh, I knew practically every single thing that was going to happen in the new Batman movie for various reasons (comics and script info), and it didn't stop me from enjoying the hell out of seeing it play out on-screen. I do agree that they should go ahead and get this thing released soon, though. Strike while the iron of curiosity is hot.

PS, slightly off-topic: Hey ITers, thought you might like to know that Lions Gate recently released a new version of the classic Total Recall on Blu-ray, and it's really cheap and of terrific quality.  If you've never seen the movie, I highly suggest you guys do so (and avoid the remake released today) since it has a bunch of similar ideas as the Indoctrination Theory. 

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paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SirLugash wrote...

Just had a thought about the Leviathan trailer.
What if the line "You have come too far" wasn't directed to Shepard, but a(nother) Reaper, maybe even Harbinger ?

Interesting. Maybe Leviathan aims at upsetting the balance of power among the Reapers. That could produce some serious implications. Lots of fireworks.


The Reaper did not sound like Harby, more like ouor old Reaper friend from ME1. Also that's Leviathan for sure, but as i said I think that what the Reaper said to Shepard, was directed at us ITers because we have come to far from discovering what their plans are.

I know that it was Leviathan's voice. Just saying what it could mean if he was saying that to Harbinger.

So you are saying that that line is something like "So be IT." Could be.
BioWare's Appeal (BA)


Maybe. but at this point of the game of speculations we have very few cards to actually prove IT for what it's worth. Maybe Leviathan will be a ground of operations for IT.

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Oh and I think if we want to go on the threads out side IT, we go to the Leviathan threads because the other threads aren't really welcoming us ITers, so lay low when you go out side this thread.

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dreamgazer wrote...
PS, slightly off-topic: Hey ITers, thought you might like to know that Lions Gate recently released a new version of the classic Total Recall on Blu-ray, and it's really cheap and of terrific quality.  If you've never seen the movie, I highly suggest you guys do so (and avoid the remake released today) since it has a bunch of similar ideas as the Indoctrination Theory. 


Great movie! Scared the sh*t out of me when I was a kid. But today it's a personal classic! Haven't read the book, but the movies does have something for ITers.

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masster blaster wrote...
The Reaper did not sound like Harby, more like our old Reaper friend from ME1. Also that's Leviathan for sure, but as i said I think that what the Reaper said to Shepard, was directed at us ITers because we have come to far from discovering what their plans are.

Wouldn't that be "Too close to" instead?

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Fingertrip wrote...

Leviathan won't be a big reveleation, just confirmed by Mike Gamble. Leviathan DLC will NOT change any of the endings, it will only give you more information about the Reapers.

Wait for future DLCs, no?

They have a very odd idea of what "changes" the endings and what doesn't.
They made the catalyst a lot more obviously not trustworthy in the EC, and by the sounds of it they're doing that again in leviathan. They can make changes that have a very substantial impact on how the ending is interpreted and they don't really need to "change" anything substanial about it.
That's what I think will happen.
Whether or not we get any more on shepard's post-breath-scene survival or not is debateable...

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masster blaster wrote...
The Reaper did not sound like Harby, more like our old Reaper friend from ME1. Also that's Leviathan for sure, but as i said I think that what the Reaper said to Shepard, was directed at us ITers because we have come to far from discovering what their plans are.

Wouldn't that be "Too close to" instead?


Yes but using what the Leviathan said " You have come to far" Won't give that much away, if it was directed at us ITers.

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The problem is that we don't even know if it's the Leviathan saying this, or a probable Reaper trying to prevent Shepard from making contact with it.

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The problem is we don't even know if it's the Leviathan saying this, or a probable Reaper trying to prevent Shepard to make contact with it.


Maybe, but all we know for now, is that it was a Reaper that said this, and we know it's not Harbinger, unless Bioware changed Harbingers voice, not actor, and created the new and improve harbinger.

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Just watched the Leviathan DLC trailer and I am excited. Can't wait to play this thing.

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Harbinger and Sovereign had slightly different voices, if I remember well. It could be any other Reaper, with just a distinct voice, like the others we hear in the games. The Reaper on Rannoch also had a "personal" voice.

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Oh and I think if we want to go on the threads out side IT, we go to the Leviathan threads because the other threads aren't really welcoming us ITers, so lay low when you go out side this thread.


It depends on how you bring the topic up, or whether you choose to at all.

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The problem is that we don't even know if it's the Leviathan saying this, or a probable Reaper trying to prevent Shepard from making contact with it.

It's a trailer. It's about as likely that he's not the Leviathan as (if you know anything about Halo) the Halo 4 trailer at the end the guy speaking isn't the didact.
Just look at 7:03 to know what I'm talking about. It doesn't make sense in a cinematic sense for it not to be Leviathan. Plus, we know what Anthony Skordi sounds like.

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masster blaster wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

masster blaster wrote...
The Reaper did not sound like Harby, more like our old Reaper friend from ME1. Also that's Leviathan for sure, but as i said I think that what the Reaper said to Shepard, was directed at us ITers because we have come to far from discovering what their plans are.

Wouldn't that be "Too close to" instead?


Yes but using what the Leviathan said " You have come to far" Won't give that much away, if it was directed at us ITers.

That would be pretty awesome. Not expecting that to be true, but it's a nice thought. Posted Image

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We just got a full extraction gold run in on glacier... is it just me or does fighting multiple banshees and brutes on glacier feel a bit like being trapped in a phonebox with an angry raccoon?

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We just got a full extraction gold run in on glacier... is it just me or does fighting multiple banshees and brutes on glacier feel a bit like being trapped in a phonebox with an angry raccoon?

I beat it on platinum so...yeah!

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Nice quote i caught somewhere :)
"You would not know them, and there is no time to explain... unless you pay ten dollars."

LOL.

Nice!

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

We just got a full extraction gold run in on glacier... is it just me or does fighting multiple banshees and brutes on glacier feel a bit like being trapped in a phonebox with an angry raccoon?

I beat it on platinum so...yeah!

From what I've seen the difficulty on consoles isn't as high, Gold looks rather like Silver there... (enemies shooting less frequent etc)