How is that arbitrary??Xilizhra wrote...
No, it's still terrible. Arbitrary penalties will never work well.I support this. That way control and synthesis players will know they were tricked but won't be completely alienated.
Wow, a handwave, arsepull and fanon all in one sentence. Do you practice at this or does it come (un-)naturally to you?Xilizhra wrote...
The Reapers lack free will, and the actual perpetrator, the Catalyst, has its personality deleted in my own ending. So that's not an issue.As far as the "Oh woe is me, I didn't want to commit genocide" bullcrap is concerned: Would you, Xil-pathizer, rather commit genocide on one race, or pardon (being the kindest word to use; I was going to go with "worship") the genocide of all races in all previous cycles since the first Reaper was created? And if you give me that bullcrap about "Reapers are the preserved blah-blah-blah," you chose poorly. Here's a hint: Something containing DNA does not contain life.
Skillz1986 wrote...
@ demersel.
Well it's not working since she's in ignore mode. Maybe you're having fun, but reading all that mental diarrhea really annoys the hell out of me. And here's a hint: what if, she's just trying to get a good laugh out of you guys as well, well i guess you're providing her with a hell of a time. Any reasonable person would've by now caught that control and synthepiss are not what the ENTIRE FREAKING GAME SERIES were going for. But she just finds more and more sometimes were f***ing stupid ways of supporting those choices.
spotlessvoid wrote...
Rifneno wrote...
Personally I like when games treat us like adults and we have to deal with consequences of our actions rather than a magic storyteller holding our hands so nothing bad ever happens.
the ec is the kiddie table ?
Sovereign was wrong. The Reapers themselves are victims of a kind of indoctrination.Well ffs..now you got me too xil.
The reapers lack free will?
Sovereign" we are each a nation, independent.." there! It's ingame. Shut the hell up!
Kyrene wrote...
Wow, a handwave, arsepull and fanon all in one sentence. Do you practice at this or does it come (un-)naturally to you?
Xilizhra wrote...
Sovereign was wrong. The Reapers themselves are victims of a kind of indoctrination.Well ffs..now you got me too xil.
The reapers lack free will?
Sovereign" we are each a nation, independent.." there! It's ingame. Shut the hell up!
Xilizhra wrote...
Sovereign was wrong. The Reapers themselves are victims of a kind of indoctrination.Well ffs..now you got me too xil.
The reapers lack free will?
Sovereign" we are each a nation, independent.." there! It's ingame. Shut the hell up!
Skillz1986 wrote...
No you're twisting my words. You're both making idiots of yourselves in the other ones eyes. But since i now have also contributed to this discussion, the whole post of mine is irrelevant.
Well there's head-canon and then there's head-cannon... I think Xil's mind was blown... literSkillz1986 wrote...
@kyrene
As vega would say "it's a gift"
EMBRACE...THE REAPERS?Kyrene wrote...
Well there's head-canon and then there's head-cannon... I think Xil's mind was blown... literSkillz1986 wrote...
@kyrene
As vega would say "it's a gift"alistally.
You know, if the Reapers ever landed for real, I'm pretty sure one of the first husks that want to face-hug me, will once have had the BSN name Xil... True story, bro.
TIM could, or at least possessed some kind of mind controlling power. And even when he was indoctrinated, he could use Cerberus' means to indoctrinate others.But indoctrinated victims cannot themselves indoctrinate,and before you say the reapers are different in that matter,they're not because the catalyst does not have two different types of indoctrination.
I'm not trying to prove IT wrong, as such. I'm trying to show that it's not automatically right, as well as showing my thematic disgreements with it.See, there you go! You're accusing It'ers of bringing up arguments which
are totally subjectibe and can be interpreted in other ways. But EVERY
goddamn thing you have brought up to justify your choice so far, are
complete arsepulls. Sovereign was wrong? Where the hell did you get that
from? Who told you this? Who or what foreshadowed it? Why are you
asuming this? And while we're at it, if sovereign was wrong or lying or
whatever. Why do you trust the "catalyst"? Who told you to do o? Who or
what foreshadowed it? Why do you assume it's bein honest?
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BleedingUranium wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Sovereign was wrong. The Reapers themselves are victims of a kind of indoctrination.Well ffs..now you got me too xil.
The reapers lack free will?
Sovereign" we are each a nation, independent.." there! It's ingame. Shut the hell up!
What's interesting is we both agree on that point.
Xilizhra wrote...
I'm not trying to prove IT wrong, as such. I'm trying to show that it's not automatically right, as well as showing my thematic disgreements with it.
BleedingUranium wrote...
Reposting again because people need to see this:
I found something very IT related in the new unlockable banners! The one that you get for killing lots of Reapers, called "Death Guard", has a picture of Harbinger's Arrival hologram, though oddly recoloured in red. That's not the best part though, the background of the picture is the hallway of bodies at the beginning of the dream Citadel!
EDIT: It's also the one selected in this blog post about N7HQ. There's also the "Lone Wolf" one, of Shepard at the beam run.
*possible MP-deprived hoots of laughter*Rifneno wrote...
Tycho illustrates my thoughts on this matter.
Yes. And what's up with it?BleedingUranium wrote...
Reposting again because people need to see this:
I found something very IT related in the new unlockable banners! The one that you get for killing lots of Reapers, called "Death Guard", has a picture of Harbinger's Arrival hologram, though oddly recoloured in red. That's not the best part though, the background of the picture is the hallway of bodies at the beginning of the dream Citadel!
EDIT: It's also the one selected in this blog post about N7HQ. There's also the "Lone Wolf" one, of Shepard at the beam run.
Guest_SwobyJ_*
BatmanTurian wrote...
Ithurael wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
To an extent, but it couldn't close the arms by itself before; it had to have the Reapers do so for it. It also doesn't seem inclined to do anything to help the Reapers in ME1. All in all, I think it only acts on the Citadel for actions related directly to Shepard, and either finding a new solution or failing to do so.It seems to be perfectly able to turn off the beam, turn on the elevator, close the arms in control etc... So it does have control over citadel functions.
Or - big step here - it didn't open the arms in ME1 because there was a different head writer who was a story writer not a character writer? Maybe?
Or hey, it could just be space magic!
Or, hey, the Catalyst space boy doesn't exist and is a creation of Harbinger, who is a Leviathan Reaper and is actually the orginal AI that the Leviathans mentioned uploaded into its own creation when it harvested the Leviathans. But sure, that's a stretch you'd say, except that Leviathan says the Reapers have perfected what Leviathans could do. Yeah, no way Harbinger could create a dream-like area using your own memories to manipulate you when he's made of Leviathans.
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