Ce sujet est fermépaxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
i think the message is very clear here - WAIT FOR IT
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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!
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i think the message is very clear here - WAIT FOR IT
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:17
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TSA_383 wrote...
I was just thinking over these notes made by mac walters:
http://imageshack.us...5/33611897.jpg/
The whole thing is rather interesting for me, but the most interesting part for me is
"Endings - how do they feel?"
"brave new world + end of the first matrix".
There's a common theme here.
The first matrix (as in, the 1st matrix to exist in the story, rather than the first movie) was an idyllic, perfect world. It failed because the people rebelled against the illusion (as it lacked pain and the chaos of human emotions) and the harvest was spoiled.
In Brave New World, there is an idyllic society in which everyone is conditioned to believe they are happy, and to live productive lives not really realising that they're serving the ends of their masters. The main character rebels against this superficially "perfect" world, as it lacks pain and the chaos of human emotions.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
The endings are supposed to feel suspiciously, superficially perfect, they're supposed to feel like an illusion, and they're supposed to inspire speculation as a result.
This was always planned, right back from 2010 when that early plan was drawn up.
Tah ****ing Dah.
I know. It's goddamn amazing is what it is.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:17
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Yeah, I've just read that paragraph in the dev diary to the end...demersel wrote...
paxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
i think the messae is very clear here - WAIT FOR IT
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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
All endings can lead to victory under the idea I presented regarding the Rachni and other events in the past.
Quick sum up certain choices made throughout the series might allow Shepard a second wind in regards to Indoctrination. This second wind could be anything from breaking free long enough to finish the fight to just Shepard commiting suicide Saren style allowing for others to finish it (requirring high to extreme EMS to pull off).
An example is as mentioned the Rachni Queen who is Indoctrination resistant and can interact with the minds of other beeings. If succumbing the Rahcni Queen if alive could interact with Shepards mind and become a saving grace. Other such events and choices might also exist and clould potentially allow Synthesis/Control choosers a happy ending.
It is just an idea.
I will agree (despite how satisfying it would be) that Bioware wont just show those who picked Control/Synthesis a game over screen. Under this idea the choice is a step in the direction and if you did not prepare in the past it will lead to a loss, but with the right assets it can still be turned around. hould obviusly lead to higher casulaties as you did not pull it off flawlessly (the Rachni Queen dying to save you would be a nice `Ommph´ if you ask me).
Still though the mere idea that Bioware would not place a outright wrong choice in the game is flawed. They had no problem adding several in the suicide mission of ME2 where a wrong choice would send a squadmate to his or her unavoidable death and if you ****ed up enough Shepard did not make it out.
One would think they would try to pull of something similar but with way higher stakes in ME3.
Synthesis isn't a game over.
It's just a more 'compelling' story. :innocent:
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Two things.
First of all, any comment on this from earlier?
Second, any updates from NYCC? Is there a Mass Effect presentation there or some such thing?
First of all, any comment on this from earlier?
I was just thinking over these notes made by mac walters:
http://imageshack.us...5/33611897.jpg/
The whole thing is rather interesting for me, but the most interesting part for me is
"Endings - how do they feel?"
"brave new world + end of the first matrix".
There's a common theme here.
The first matrix (as in, the 1st matrix to exist in the story, rather than the first movie) was an idyllic, perfect world. It failed because the people rebelled against the illusion (as it lacked pain and the chaos of human emotions) and the harvest was spoiled.
In Brave New World, there is an idyllic society in which everyone is conditioned to believe they are happy, and to live productive lives not really realising that they're serving the ends of their masters. The main character rebels against this superficially "perfect" world, as it lacks pain and the chaos of human emotions.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
The endings are supposed to feel suspiciously, superficially perfect, they're supposed to feel like an illusion, and they're supposed to inspire speculation as a result.
This was always planned, right back from 2010 when that early plan was drawn up.
Tah ****ing Dah.
Second, any updates from NYCC? Is there a Mass Effect presentation there or some such thing?
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:21
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They are on a rotation system. Only two are active at a time or some such.paxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:21
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Yes, BlUr, we heard you. I'm gonna go with a firm "Does it prove IT?" meme though. <_<BleedingUranium wrote...
Reposting again because people need to see this:
I found something very IT related in the new unlockable banners! The one that you get for killing lots of Reapers, called "Death Guard", has a picture of Harbinger's Arrival hologram, though oddly recoloured in red. That's not the best part though, the background of the picture is the hallway of bodies at the beginning of the dream Citadel!
EDIT: It's also the one selected in this blog post about N7HQ. There's also the "Lone Wolf" one, of Shepard at the beam run.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:24
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TSA_383 wrote...
Two things.
First of all, any comment on this from earlier?I was just thinking over these notes made by mac walters:
http://imageshack.us...5/33611897.jpg/
The whole thing is rather interesting for me, but the most interesting part for me is
"Endings - how do they feel?"
"brave new world + end of the first matrix".
There's a common theme here.
The first matrix (as in, the 1st matrix to exist in the story, rather than the first movie) was an idyllic, perfect world. It failed because the people rebelled against the illusion (as it lacked pain and the chaos of human emotions) and the harvest was spoiled.
In Brave New World, there is an idyllic society in which everyone is conditioned to believe they are happy, and to live productive lives not really realising that they're serving the ends of their masters. The main character rebels against this superficially "perfect" world, as it lacks pain and the chaos of human emotions.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
The endings are supposed to feel suspiciously, superficially perfect, they're supposed to feel like an illusion, and they're supposed to inspire speculation as a result.
This was always planned, right back from 2010 when that early plan was drawn up.
Tah ****ing Dah.
Second, any updates from NYCC? Is there a Mass Effect presentation there or some such thing?
The only possible comment there is Tah ****ing Dah.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:25
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Either.Ardrey wrote...
They are on a rotation system. Only two are active at a time or some such.paxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
Whoa??? so if i don't play them, i'll miss them forever???? Me not like!!!
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:27
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Behold the Shepard for $350.
http://biowarestore....how-statue.html
http://biowarestore....how-statue.html
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:28
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I think BioWare is going to add 2 new maps with hazards each week.demersel wrote...
Either.Ardrey wrote...
They are on a rotation system. Only two are active at a time or some such.paxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
Whoa??? so if i don't play them, i'll miss them forever???? Me not like!!!
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:28
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DoomsdayDevice wrote...
“The flesh is a machine.”
“Relinquish your form to us.”
“Embrace perfection.”
“Your worlds will become our laboratories.”
“You do not yet comprehend your place in things.”
“We are the Harbinger of your perfection.”
“We are the Harbinger of your ascendance.”
“Progress cannot be halted.”
“We are the Harbinger of your destiny.”
“We are your destiny.”
“Evolution cannot be stopped.”
“They will be as we are.”
“We are your genetic destiny.”
HAI SHEPARD I AM THE REAPER AI, PICK SYNTHESIS LOL, TOTALLY LEGIT
But no, it is unimaginative and they're decieving the audience.
ART IS THE LIE THAT TELLS THE TRUTH.
No friggin wonder they used the term artistic integrity now. Took me several months to understand though.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:28
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I was gonna give an "Amen. Preach it brother!" but thought you'd realise you're preaching to the choir, TSA.TSA_383 wrote...
Two things.
First of all, any comment on this from earlier?
There is and there's a photo of the booth floating around with a pissed Aria T'Loak in the background.Second, any updates from NYCC? Is there a Mass Effect presentation there or some such thing?
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:28
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Really nice points. Great stuff.TSA_383 wrote...
I was just thinking over these notes made by mac walters:
http://imageshack.us...5/33611897.jpg/
The whole thing is rather interesting for me, but the most interesting part for me is
"Endings - how do they feel?"
"brave new world + end of the first matrix".
There's a common theme here.
The first matrix (as in, the 1st matrix to exist in the story, rather than the first movie) was an idyllic, perfect world. It failed because the people rebelled against the illusion (as it lacked pain and the chaos of human emotions) and the harvest was spoiled.
In Brave New World, there is an idyllic society in which everyone is conditioned to believe they are happy, and to live productive lives not really realising that they're serving the ends of their masters. The main character rebels against this superficially "perfect" world, as it lacks pain and the chaos of human emotions.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
The endings are supposed to feel suspiciously, superficially perfect, they're supposed to feel like an illusion, and they're supposed to inspire speculation as a result.
This was always planned, right back from 2010 when that early plan was drawn up.
Tah ****ing Dah.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:30
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I'm pretty sure they'll come back and do multiple rotations, or (I hope) after all have been revealed through rotation, they could make all of them permanent (though I doubt that). You get extra experience for the hazard levels, so I think that's why they're not doing them all at once.demersel wrote...
Either.Ardrey wrote...
They are on a rotation system. Only two are active at a time or some such.paxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
Whoa??? so if i don't play them, i'll miss them forever???? Me not like!!!
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:31
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Red apple for destroy lol. Where is the synthesis version...oh right he's deadpaxxton wrote...
Behold the Shepard for $350.
http://biowarestore....how-statue.html
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:31
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demersel wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
I've never been fooled.ТЫ_ДЫЩЬ
can't..... stop....laughting......
I'm reading this whole things and also laughing my ass off.
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Are they rotating the charecters too? Because the Quarian soldier, Asari huntress, and drell infiltrator are now gone.Either.Ardrey wrote...
They are on a rotation system. Only two are active at a time or some such.paxxton wrote...
I have access to only 2 maps with hazards. I hear there are 6.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:36
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DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Different sense. Harbinger is referring to the Reaper form, the Catalyst speaks of something quite different.DoomsdayDevice wrote...
Do you even pay attention to the game?
Child: "Organics seek perfection through technology. Synthetics seek perfection through understanding. Organics will be perfected fully by integrating fully with Synthetic technology. "
"EMBRACE PERFECTION"
The Catalyst speaks of exactly the same thing, because he IS Harbinger. Inside your head.
See, the Leviathans created an AI. That AI betrayed them, harvested them, and turned the harvested Leviathans into the first Reaper; Harbinger.
The AI isn't sitting on the citadel for aeons, waiting for some organic to 'change the variables'. He installed himself into the first Reaper.
Why you would trust the AI that tricked the Leviathans into being harvested is beyond me.
*highfive*
Harbinger is still the big bad. The biggest big bad of the series. He IS arrogant. He IS massively genocidal. And he WAS a more ambivalant AI created by the Leviathans, but once he 'synthesized' with them, we have this monumental JERK that considers the galaxy his petri dish.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:38
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...People actually buy this ****.paxxton wrote...
Behold the Shepard for $350.
http://biowarestore....how-statue.html
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:39
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Red apple for destroy lol. Where is the synthesis version...oh right he's deadpaxxton wrote...
Behold the Shepard for $350.
http://biowarestore....how-statue.html
Oh! So that's an apple! I thought that was a cherry! Well. that changes things a bit.....
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:41
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They aren't rotating maps or characters, they are adding two new ones each week. But they keep the ones they've already added. Nothing is being taken away, just slowly added.
TSA, they posted a pic of their NYCC booth with a pic of Aria taken from the comic series, so nothing really there. Also, the BW booth is literally one table, a TV and a chair. Thought it'd be bigger than that. Nothing going on until tomorrow though.
TSA, they posted a pic of their NYCC booth with a pic of Aria taken from the comic series, so nothing really there. Also, the BW booth is literally one table, a TV and a chair. Thought it'd be bigger than that. Nothing going on until tomorrow though.
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Posté 11 octobre 2012 - 09:41
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spotlessvoid wrote...
But guys how could their be any symbolism in dreams. Bioware wouldn't know that anyways. Maybe I'd believe it if one of them was a psych major, but that isn't the case
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