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estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fuk'n quoting fails.

What is it with me trying to quote banshee and failing?!

YOUR POSTS WILL BE OUR LABORATORIES.

No seriously. Almost each time I try quoting you it ends up only showing your response!

Also, I'm sorry, but I didn't understand your post that replied to me. 

You... are pretty and want to see me right now? :huh:

Modifié par estebanus, 03 août 2012 - 06:33 .


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estebanus wrote...

Yeah! Like pie!

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[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

Yeah! Like pie!

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[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

THERE IT IS AGAIN!

WHAT THE HELL?!

Modifié par estebanus, 03 août 2012 - 06:32 .


#3330
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masster blaster wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

Iconoclaste wrote...

And how would you link the voice to Leviathan, and not another Reaper?

Because his voice actor was already confirmed. He sounds (quite unsurprisingly) like Leviathan...

You talk about multiplayer, and Leviathan's voice being the one we hear at the end of the trailer. How does this relate to the IT?

I don't even know how to respond to that. Someone else take this one? It's not worth my time...

I tell you what : this thread is about IT, I did not even address you, and you try to look smart by defending a "fellow ITer", or so you think is your duty. The problem is : this thread is for discussing IT, not sports or multiplayer or such. So if I, who is no IT official "supporter", come here to discuss IT, and you, official "IT supporter" don't even know what you are doing here, I suppose you could at least learn some manners. 

I was under the impression that your statement was directed at me. So I am trying to look smart by defending myself? And you obviously don't know how this thread works. When there is stuff to discuss, we discuss it. In this thread's 4500+ pages, we kinda analyzed the crap out of everything. Until Leviathan comes out, we will go off topic a bit. We're our own community, so we talk to each other about more than just IT.


Banshee I do find it funny that Shepard can run with the packages in SP, while in Mp we can't, since Bioware usd some Mp elements into the Leviathan dlc.

I didn't see any packages in SP, but I also didn't watch the demo. Try to keep the spoiler count low. Anyway, packages in SP sound interesting. Makes me wonder which came first: the MP package or the SP package?

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paxxton wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

paxxton wrote...
As for the Reapers' tactics. If IT is true you agree that the Reapers' methods of waging war are ingenious. They use both brute force and subtle prodding.


Only their use of indoctrination is ingenious.  Their actual warfare tactics tend to be...

Well.  Mass assault, stomping around on the ground shooting at tiny targets, not chasing down fleets, only sending single Destroyers to important warzones while having Capital Ships act as ground troops on various worlds, ignoring targets of oppertunity seemingly at random...

And most importantly, not capturing the Citadel right off the bat.  Despite this being their primary strategy which has worked thousands of times before.  The fact they are suffering the worst causualties ever (we assume, considering the Protheans were considered to have put up a good fight and failed to kill any Reapers...) and have organised resistance all over the Galaxy just goes to show how bad this new plan of theirs is.  And yet they don't adjust.

You'd think billion year old machines who've had a lot of experience with this sort of thing would be more competant.

Perhaps they want to present themselves as invincible but in reality they aren't unstoppable. Or maybe they still have a surprise up their sleeve.

Also, remember that what happened during the Prothean cycle was long ago. Who said that information hadn't been lost? We only got menacing speeches from Vigil and Javik. I'm sure it wasn't so bad that they didn't kill a single Reaper.

Btw, I'm still waiting to see that darkened skies Sovereign heralded.

alright, im still lurking a few pages back but i have to post an answer to this.
if the reapers wanted the citadel, they could have taken it. like they did at the end of the game. but the thing is, after Sovereign failed to seize the citadel in ME1, it simply wasnt worth it to the reapers.
after the reapers arrive in the galaxy by way of the batarian systems, if they had wanted to seize the citadel, they would have had to fight the citadel defense fleet in an entrenched position in the widow nebula for what?
the way the nebula formed around the citadel, it created an impassable obstacle that forces any invading fleet through a narrow opening where their numbers would have worked against them, almost exactly like the battle of thermopylae and the last stand of the 300. while reapers would try to get through the opening, the entire citadel defense fleet (a real unified fleet with multiple dreadnoughts, including the most powerful in the galaxy, the Destiny Ascension) would amass and focus massive firepower on the only entrance the reapers have. while all that was going on, C-Sec would have closed the citadel arms and taken up fortified positions all over the citadel. could the reapers fight past that? of course, they did. but they only did so AFTER it became apparent that taking the citadel was worth the cost (after learning of its value to the Allied Fleets). if the reapers had taken the citadel before priority earth, what could they have done with it? locked the relays? sure, but the reaper IFF that was dispersed among the fleets would have rendered that useless.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Also, just had my second, third, fourth and fifth games with the demolisher... despite the cardboard armour I'm starting to like this character.....



Heh, cardboard armor.  Ain't that the truth.  But yeah, I agree that she's awesome.  Only problem is that there's no easy way to collect a lot of grenades easily.

I don't know why people complain about the Demolisher's armour. She has more shields than most characters; 600. All tech specialists have 600.

To be fair, I used to play a vorcha soldier and liked being able to wade into battles and reegar my way through stuff
But god, I love having so many grenades (7 currently) - I've had the highest score in all of my last 8 matches...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

We just got a full extraction gold run in on glacier... is it just me or does fighting multiple banshees and brutes on glacier feel a bit like being trapped in a phonebox with an angry raccoon?

I beat it on platinum so...yeah!

From what I've seen the difficulty on consoles isn't as high, Gold looks rather like Silver there... (enemies shooting less frequent etc)

Apparently enemy health etc is the same, as is weapon damage.
BUT the console auto-aim tends to give easier headshots, which makes it easier to take down enemies with conventional weapons...

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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fuk'n quoting fails.

What is it with me trying to quote banshee and failing?!

YOUR POSTS WILL BE OUR LABORATORIES.

No seriously. Almost each time I try quoting you it ends up only showing your response!

Also, I'm sorry, but I didn't understand your post that replied to me. 

You... are pretty and want to see me right now? :huh:

You mean that I was happy to see you, or a different one?

#3334
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masster blaster wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh and I think if we want to go on the threads out side IT, we go to the Leviathan threads because the other threads aren't really welcoming us ITers, so lay low when you go out side this thread.


IT supporters shouldn't have to lay low anywhere on this forum. What happened to free speech?


Sorry ment to say not talk about It out side this thread. We will actract unwanted people on this thread, and we should lay low for a while, so that we can gather all of the speculations that we have been coming up with, and make it inot one solid stament, that IT is possible for the endings of ME3. But I htik a few of the ITers are making a site on goggle about IT.


Ah. I'm the lead guy on that project. I've been working with Paxxton, CoolioThane, and TJB on it. I welcome any and all assistance on the document. Just ask me for the link and you can edit to your heart's content. 

About discussing IT. I think we have every right to discuss our interpretation of the ending where it's relavent. There's no reason to lay low just because the vapid morons on this forum want nothing to do with anything that doesn't involve bashing Bioware. 

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

If you say so. I kinda like it. It's pretty cute. I can kinda identify myself with Hakano.

#3336
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

I believe it's more about the story and how disabled people get on with their lives. Choices are a secondary feature.

#3337
estebanus

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fuk'n quoting fails.

What is it with me trying to quote banshee and failing?!

YOUR POSTS WILL BE OUR LABORATORIES.

No seriously. Almost each time I try quoting you it ends up only showing your response!

Also, I'm sorry, but I didn't understand your post that replied to me. 

You... are pretty and want to see me right now? :huh:

You mean that I was happy to see you, or a different one?

Let me quote:


estebanus wrote...

Ohai Banshee!

"Hey! I am pretty have to see you right now. Posted Image"

Modifié par estebanus, 03 août 2012 - 06:35 .


#3338
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TSA_383 wrote...

Apparently enemy health etc is the same, as is weapon damage.
BUT the console auto-aim tends to give easier headshots, which makes it easier to take down enemies with conventional weapons...

On the other hand, there is point-and-click, which tends to give even easier headshots. (I did play PC games for quite a while).

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 août 2012 - 06:40 .


#3339
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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

I believe it's more about the story and how disabled people get on with their lives. Choices are a secondary feature.

I would have rather expected a story where you could experience how it is as a disabled. That just doesn't work without choice.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Apparently enemy health etc is the same, as is weapon damage.
BUT the console auto-aim tends to give easier headshots, which makes it easier to take down enemies with conventional weapons...

On the other hand, there is point-and-click, whicj tends to give even easier headshots. (I did play PC games for quite a while).

Their rof still looked lower.

#3341
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estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fuk'n quoting fails.

What is it with me trying to quote banshee and failing?!

YOUR POSTS WILL BE OUR LABORATORIES.

No seriously. Almost each time I try quoting you it ends up only showing your response!

Also, I'm sorry, but I didn't understand your post that replied to me. 

You... are pretty and want to see me right now? Posted Image

You mean that I was happy to see you, or a different one?

Let me quote:


estebanus wrote...

Ohai Banshee!

"Hey! I am pretty have to see you right now. Posted Image"


I just meant it was the invasion of the trolls and at the time it seemed like no one else was there to back me up. Not even MassterBlasster. Plus, pie.

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MegumiAzusa wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Apparently enemy health etc is the same, as is weapon damage.
BUT the console auto-aim tends to give easier headshots, which makes it easier to take down enemies with conventional weapons...

On the other hand, there is point-and-click, whicj tends to give even easier headshots. (I did play PC games for quite a while).

Their rof still looked lower.

You sure? Seems the same to me.

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BansheeOwnage wrote...

I was under the impression that your statement was directed at me. So I am trying to look smart by defending myself? And you obviously don't know how this thread works. When there is stuff to discuss, we discuss it. In this thread's 4500+ pages, we kinda analyzed the crap out of everything. Until Leviathan comes out, we will go off topic a bit. We're our own community, so we talk to each other about more than just IT.

I asked a question to masster blasster, and you jumped in. He's a grown up, and he can speak for himself, so cool off. This is BSN, I read this thread from the start, I read the previous ones also from scratch, and probably more than yourself, so cool off again. You can start bragging about "thousands of pages" but from what everyone can easily read, it's inflated by gossip, pictures, and off-topic discussions.

But I can tell you another theory if you wish : for many people remaining here, after EC's coming out, are using this interface to cultivate gang-like behavior and trolling, on other threads and in here, which would normally not be permitted on the BSN. Unfortunately this is going to put stains on the ones who truly and maturely discuss IT here, and look nowhere else than on yourlef if you see you attract "unwanted" people. You wish for a private discussion? Take a private trip, there's a section for that. You wanna expose your ideas? Great, do it. You want to act like a moron because you think you make the rules here? Watch me.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 03 août 2012 - 06:44 .


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BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

BansheeOwnage wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Fuk'n quoting fails.

What is it with me trying to quote banshee and failing?!

YOUR POSTS WILL BE OUR LABORATORIES.

No seriously. Almost each time I try quoting you it ends up only showing your response!

Also, I'm sorry, but I didn't understand your post that replied to me. 

You... are pretty and want to see me right now? Posted Image

You mean that I was happy to see you, or a different one?

Let me quote:


estebanus wrote...

Ohai Banshee!

"Hey! I am pretty have to see you right now. Posted Image"


I just meant it was the invasion of the trolls and at the time it seemed like no one else was there to back me up. Not even MassterBlasster. Plus, pie.

Must not... respond... to pie... Mmmmh...

:P

Posted Image

Modifié par estebanus, 03 août 2012 - 06:42 .


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MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

I believe it's more about the story and how disabled people get on with their lives. Choices are a secondary feature.

I would have rather expected a story where you could experience how it is as a disabled. That just doesn't work without choice.

So far I can't tell how the story pans out. As I said I've only just started the game. The one thing that caught my attention is that Hisao is a teenager and presumably he've had that condition for some time. It went on undetected probably because he'd never been taken to a doctor. Or the doctor was really poorly educated.

Modifié par paxxton, 03 août 2012 - 06:44 .


#3346
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paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

I believe it's more about the story and how disabled people get on with their lives. Choices are a secondary feature.

I would have rather expected a story where you could experience how it is as a disabled. That just doesn't work without choice.

So far I can't tell how the story fans out. As I said I've only just started the game. The one thing that caught my attention is that Hisao is a teenager and presumably he've had that condition for some time. It went on undetected probably because he'd never been taken to a doctor. Or the doctor was really poorly educated.

Or maybe... The doctor never checked Hisao for Arrythmia?

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Masster is not a grown up icon btw

Anyway, What do people who come in and say "IT is definitely false" think is going to happen?

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[quote]Iconoclaste wrote...

[quote]BansheeOwnage wrote...

[/quote]I was under the impression that your statement was directed at me. So I am trying to look smart by defending myself? And you obviously don't know how this thread works. When there is stuff to discuss, we discuss it. In this thread's 4500+ pages, we kinda analyzed the crap out of everything. Until Leviathan comes out, we will go off topic a bit. We're our own community, so we talk to each other about more than just IT.[/quote]
I asked a question to masster blasster, and you jumped in. He's a grown up, and he can speak for himself, so cool off. This is BSN, I read this thread from the start, I read the previous ones also from scratch, and probably more than yourself, so cool off again. You can start bragging about "thousands of pages" but from what everyone can easily read, it's inflated by gossip, pictures, and off-topic discussions.

But I can tell you another theory if you wish : for many people remaining here, and unfortunately this is going to put stains on the ones who truly and maturely discuss IT, after EC's coming out, are using this interface to cultivate gang-like behavior and trolling, on other threads and in here, which would normally not be permitted on the BSN. Unfortunately this is going to put stains on the ones who truly and maturely discuss IT here, and look nowhere else than on yourlef if you see you attract "unwanted" people. You wish for a private discussion? Take a private trip, there's a section for that. You wanna expose your ideas? Great, do it. You want to act like a moron because you think you make the rules here? Watch me.
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You quoted me not MB! So now I'm supposed to assume that if you quote me your message is directed at Masster? And I don't know why your telling me to cool off, seeing as I didn't type anything angrily, use any angry smilies or try to insult anyone. Also, MB isn't actually a grown up. Stop assuming you know everything. Moreover, I wasn't bragging about the page number. I simply said that in that many pages, we've discussed everything repeatedly. So stop pointessly attacking people. (Bolded what I said to avoid quote confusion)

Modifié par BansheeOwnage, 03 août 2012 - 06:48 .


#3349
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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Katawa Shoujo is an awesome graphic novel.

Played it 2h, got bored :/

Ah well.I guess it's just my kinda game/book...

Idk, I thought it might be more about choice. Choosing every 25 screens or so isn't thaaat fun.

I believe it's more about the story and how disabled people get on with their lives. Choices are a secondary feature.

I would have rather expected a story where you could experience how it is as a disabled. That just doesn't work without choice.

So far I can't tell how the story fans out. As I said I've only just started the game. The one thing that caught my attention is that Hisao is a teenager and presumably he've had that condition for some time. It went on undetected probably because he'd never been taken to a doctor. Or the doctor was really poorly educated.

Or maybe... The doctor never checked Hisao for Arrythmia?

That still doesn't mean there couldn't be more choice.

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CoolioThane wrote...

Masster is not a grown up icon btw

Anyway, What do people who come in and say "IT is definitely false" think is going to happen?

That we'll all tremble in fear of their unrefutable argument, and that the IT will despand and burn the idea to ash!