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[CmdrShep80]

magnetite wrote...

He might not have posted anything, but just read the thread anonymously. Don't think BSN requires you to sign in order to read threads, just to post.

actually what I found out was that you have to have your main game registered to post.  You should be able to read threads without logging in

[CmdrShep80]

munnellyladt wrote...

just thought of something about the ending choices.
If you go to one then walk back it's says "the crucible has been destroyed"which most of you already know.
But why does this happen?
Since he controls the reapers,he could order them to stay away from the crucible since his solution "won't work anymore"but instead he never tells them t stay away.
It's almost like he's forcing shep to pick a choice betwwen the three.

when I asked this a while back someone mentioned it was because you were indecisive. I think I got this because I didn't do anything and was busy reading up on things

[CmdrShep80]

Dwailing wrote...

You know, when all this is over, I Need a Freaking Drink. Or at least, I would, if I was 21. Anyway, once this is all over with, I think I'm going to take a nice, long break from speculations, and play some ME3, safe in the knowledge that we were right.

lol remember what happened to Shepard when he has one too many drinks. You don't want to end up in a place you didn't want to be in

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

[Davik Kang]

BatmanTurian wrote...
They expect to live on even if their platforms are destroyed, because there are entire servers full of identical geth programs. they did not become fully actualized until Legion sent out the Reaper code (which, again, is foreshadowing Synthesis as someone else pointed out). Even then, they still spoke as if a collective that chose decisions democratically and, as spotless said, they did not expect to be casualties of the war.

Saying all that, Control and Synthesis are the compromise they speak of. Control is what the Reapers were doing to the Heretic Geth. Synthesis is the jump of technology down a path the Reapers choose for organics that the Geth were trying to divorce themselves from.

Thus, logically, destroy is the only choice since refuse simply means doing nothing, which is also always a choice in every situation.

The Geth servers will be destroyed too.  The whole synthetic architecture of the Galaxy will need to be repaired and rebuilt.  Geth as they are now will not survive.  If they did that would defeat the whole premise of the Destroy ending.

I can see that Con and Syn involve compromise but I already conceded that.  I don't see at all how Destroy is the only choice as a logical corollary of what you said.

I can see Legion choosing Destroy as a possibility if, when faced with the final decision, the choice breaks his programming (like G0T0 etc.) because his own primary goals become mutually exclusive.  But it's only a possibility.  It could go the other way.  I'm not really seeing the logical conclusion here.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Tis a good thing I like neither salad nor pizza.

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

>implying destroy isnt french fries

[BatmanTurian]

Davik Kang wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...
They expect to live on even if their platforms are destroyed, because there are entire servers full of identical geth programs. they did not become fully actualized until Legion sent out the Reaper code (which, again, is foreshadowing Synthesis as someone else pointed out). Even then, they still spoke as if a collective that chose decisions democratically and, as spotless said, they did not expect to be casualties of the war.

Saying all that, Control and Synthesis are the compromise they speak of. Control is what the Reapers were doing to the Heretic Geth. Synthesis is the jump of technology down a path the Reapers choose for organics that the Geth were trying to divorce themselves from.

Thus, logically, destroy is the only choice since refuse simply means doing nothing, which is also always a choice in every situation.

The Geth servers will be destroyed too.  The whole synthetic architecture of the Galaxy will need to be repaired and rebuilt.  Geth as they are now will not survive.  If they did that would defeat the whole premise of the Destroy ending.

I can see that Con and Syn involve compromise but I already conceded that.  I don't see at all how Destroy is the only choice as a logical corollary of what you said.

I can see Legion choosing Destroy as a possibility if, when faced with the final decision, the choice breaks his programming (like G0T0 etc.) because his own primary goals become mutually exclusive.  But it's only a possibility.  It could go the other way.  I'm not really seeing the logical conclusion here.

Well, I spelled it out as best I can. I think we'll just agree to disagree here because I'm not in the mood to argue since I just had an argument with someone this afternoon IRL and it wasn't pleasant.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Tis a good thing I like neither salad nor pizza.

Then you go hungry with Destroy.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

>implying destroy isnt french fries

> implying refuse isn't french fries

[masster blaster]

You know I thought about Destroy, and and what Leviathan said.

" The Reapers see you as a threat. I must find out why?"

And then I see the Catalyst at the end, and now I know why he is angry in refuse.

1. We want's Shepard plain as that.
2. In Destroy Shepard is going to fightback, and the Reapers/Harbinger must kill him/her before he/she wakes up.
3. Your EMS unlock endings right, yet looking at the options we have at the end. We have 4.

4. Refuse leads you to give up and not go on. Your letting your friends, family, and everyone die because you can't do it anymore. You broke your Shepard because you didn't reconnect his/her mind to his/her prime purpose.

5. Synthesis is not for the whole galaxy, but the Reapers. They get Shepard's DNA, and everything that makes Shepard. We GIVE them Shepard.

6. In Control the Reapers gain Control of Shepard, not us. We were his/her voice in her/his head telling him/her what was right, and what is wrong, and now we are gone. The Reapers tell Shepard what to do because we can no longer control Shepard if he/she is died.

7. Destroy we reconnect Shepard's mind. If you notice every time Shepard fires his/her gun in Destroy. You see Shepard stand up, and regain focues when every shot hit's the tube.

8. Now when we see the memorial scene something is not right with it. The whole crew Should be there in the memorial scene because they lost their captin of the ship, and like all soldiers have done in the past. All personal should be their. No game machanic should not stop Bioware from adding more crew members on the scene because when it's showing the Krogan in Destroy their are a lot in one area.

9. Anyways when the memorial scene is gone, only in Destroy do we see a 20 second clip of Shepard lying in rubble some where on Earth. Now the funny thing about this clip it's right after the eplilogue, and why is it that in mid/low EMS they now that Shepard died in Destroy.

Nobody can know that Shepard is dead, as is Anderson. Heck why don't we see Joker carrying EDI's body at all. We should see them placing EDI's name first. Yet when we see the memorial scene EDI, and Anderson's name is up on there. My question is how long has it been?

Like gambel said I think, or from the files it's flash forward.

Now the funny thing is about Destroy is that Hackett never says Shepard is dead. Not even in Low/ mid EMS. That's weird because if Hackett doesn't know Shepard is not dead, then how does the crew know that Shepard is dead in Mid Destroy?

Now I can see in Control that Shepard could have told them about what happened, as well as in Synthesis. What I mean is that in Synthesis when Shepard jumped into the beam, it's possible that the brat told everyone about what Shepard did, and what happend to him. Yet Destroy nobody can know about Shepard because the only person that knows where Shepard is. Is dead right.

Also Shepard is in no shape to get up, I mean look at him/her in the breath scene. He/she has already pushed his/her limits, so why does the crew now that Shepard is alive. Shepar can't tell them where he/she is because no Organic other than Shepard has been to. And remember Shepard passed out before he/she arrived to the Catalyst chambers, so even he/she doesn't know where he/she is.

That is why IT can explaine all of this because it's the truth. Why does Bioware want us to speculate, it's because they want us to debate on how is right, and why does the ending make no sense.

Easy way out : bad writing
Hard way that took months in the making, and still is: IT
Let's be honest guys people really don't speculate about the endings other than us.

They ask why does the endings make no sense, and when we give them one they either say.

" IT sounds worse than the endings, and that means my choice didn't matter in Control, or synthesis."

Hey you asked and we anwsered.

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

There's only one restaurant in town. The Citadel Diner.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

>implying destroy isnt french fries

> implying refuse isn't french fries

Refuse is clearly fried shisno.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

>implying destroy isnt french fries

> implying refuse isn't french fries

Refuse is clearly fried shisno.

Nope. That's death by Marauder Shields!

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

>implying destroy isnt french fries

> implying refuse isn't french fries

You kidding, right? French Fries are delicious.

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

There's only one restaurant in town. The Citadel Diner.

Then I'll start my own restauant! With Black Jack! And hookers!

[Restrider]

Polls with different flavours for everyone!

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lol, I just got both the volus engineer and adept in one PSP.

Anyways, what's up?

pizza and salads

mmmhhh... Yummy! Can I have some?

Yes, but you have to go for either Control (access to a salad bar) or Synthesis (pizza exclusively).

Bah, screw it! I'll go for destroy! (goes to another restaurant and gets pasta)

>implying destroy isnt french fries

> implying refuse isn't french fries

You kidding, right? French Fries are delicious.

So ist pasta! French fries are my second favourite food (refuse is my second favourite ending)!

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

You kidding, right? French Fries are delicious.

Plus he lives in Germany. The best french fries I ever ate were in Germany. At this awesome indoor pool in Ramstein

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

You kidding, right? French Fries are delicious.

Plus he lives in Germany. The best french fries I ever ate were in Germany. At this awesome indoor pool in Ramstein

Just don't laugh but I like those at McDonald's.  Or right from the oven.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 octobre 2012 - 10:29 .

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

You kidding, right? French Fries are delicious.

Plus he lives in Germany. The best french fries I ever ate were in Germany. At this awesome indoor pool in Ramstein

My favourite food is sausage spaghetti. It's spaghetti with meatballs and sausages.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

So ist pasta! French fries are my second favourite food (refuse is my second favourite ending)!

Refuse is my second favorite ending, too, but that isnt saying much.

[estebanus]

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

So ist pasta! French fries are my second favourite food (refuse is my second favourite ending)!

Refuse is my second favorite ending, too, but that isnt saying much.

Nope, I suppose it doesn't.

EDIT: Top! Banshee, where are you?! Get out of whatever corner you're hiding in!

Modifié par estebanus, 13 octobre 2012 - 10:33 .