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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark III!


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CmdrShep80 wrote...

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Since the Starchild is an AI it might have a kind fof shackles that prevent him from changing his solution. In this interpretation the choice Shepard is about to make would represent the act of unshackling the Catalyst.

But the ending isn't really what it seems so that's not the real Intelligence, but Impostor Harby.


i still think its the Reapers talking through Shepard's implants

Could be. Not enough data to support it though.

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broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?

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broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?

I'm expecting Harbinger to play a prominent role in it. + the Collectors + Aria + maybe a trip through the Omega 4 Relay. I'd really like to see a big space battle between Cerberus and whatever scum mercs Aria's got.

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MassEffectFShep wrote...

broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?

Just Speculations...
Popular ones include Collectors making a return (Omega Nebula was their front yard) and Omega originally being an unfinished Crucible that was repurposed into a mining facility...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 13 octobre 2012 - 11:51 .


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IT'S A POWER GRAB!!! GET IT?

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Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

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Bill Casey wrote...

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IT'S A POWER GRAB!!! GET IT?


i have to say, bill, you crack me up.

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MassEffectFShep wrote...

broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?


I for one am expecting to see the collectors but this time when they're possesed,I wonder if harbinger says alot of quotes.
If that does happen it proves just how interested he is in shepard since in mp he does not speak.

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Dwailing wrote...

Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

See what exactly?

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paxxton wrote...

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Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

See what exactly?


Uh, "Power grab?" I mean, it's so OBVIOUS that I can't believe none of us spotted it sooner.

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Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

See what exactly?


Uh, "Power grab?" I mean, it's so OBVIOUS that I can't believe none of us spotted it sooner.

I don't get it. I can't see anything unusual in this pic. Shepard falls on his knees, then stands up and grabs the handles with determination.

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munnellyladt wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?


I for one am expecting to see the collectors but this time when they're possesed,I wonder if harbinger says alot of quotes.
If that does happen it proves just how interested he is in shepard since in mp he does not speak.


The reason Harbinger doesn't speak in multiplayer is because they'd have to redo a lot of the coding. which sounds like too much work. Not to mention I'm not a big fan of putting up with extra lag just so my enemy can taunt me.

Single player is different, because Harbinger's lines will just be ordinary dialogue hooked to play when in combat with the collectors.

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paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

See what exactly?


Uh, "Power grab?" I mean, it's so OBVIOUS that I can't believe none of us spotted it sooner.

I don't get it. I can't see anything unusual in this pic. Shepard falls on his knees, then stands up and grabs the handles with determination.


Shepard is literally grabbing for power. This isnt hard, paxxton.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?


I for one am expecting to see the collectors but this time when they're possesed,I wonder if harbinger says alot of quotes.
If that does happen it proves just how interested he is in shepard since in mp he does not speak.


The reason Harbinger doesn't speak in multiplayer is because they'd have to redo a lot of the coding. which sounds like too much work. Not to mention I'm not a big fan of putting up with extra lag just so my enemy can taunt me.

Single player is different, because Harbinger's lines will just be ordinary dialogue hooked to play when in combat with the collectors.


I still like the idea someone put forth earlier that Harby doesnt taunt the MP characters because they arent the ones he wants. He wants Shepard.

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I don't think anyone got back to me about this but can anyone tell me what's playing in the background of the introduction scene from when Shepard is staring at the kid with the SX-2 fighter up until Vega walks into the room. What I noticed, particularly with headphones that I was hearing background noises almost like voices but I couldn't tell.  If I was on the Citadel I would have attributed it to background Citadel noise. But I noticed Shepard is staying in an Alliance HQ apartment. 

Thoughts?

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

See what exactly?


Uh, "Power grab?" I mean, it's so OBVIOUS that I can't believe none of us spotted it sooner.

I don't get it. I can't see anything unusual in this pic. Shepard falls on his knees, then stands up and grabs the handles with determination.


Shepard is literally grabbing for power. This isnt hard, paxxton.

You see, Paxxton?! You're Powerhungry!

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byne wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

MassEffectFShep wrote...

broad question: do ITers have any specific expectations/predictions for the Omega DLC, or is it just sort of a wait-and-see situation?


I for one am expecting to see the collectors but this time when they're possesed,I wonder if harbinger says alot of quotes.
If that does happen it proves just how interested he is in shepard since in mp he does not speak.


The reason Harbinger doesn't speak in multiplayer is because they'd have to redo a lot of the coding. which sounds like too much work. Not to mention I'm not a big fan of putting up with extra lag just so my enemy can taunt me.

Single player is different, because Harbinger's lines will just be ordinary dialogue hooked to play when in combat with the collectors.


I still like the idea someone put forth earlier that Harby doesnt taunt the MP characters because they arent the ones he wants. He wants Shepard.

Personally,if the collectors are in omega,I would be dissapointed if harby doesn't say anything.
He's the main enemy in the game and he doesn't even speak anymore!!
His voice is awesome!

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byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Holy shisno! Bill, that's incredible! Why didn't any of us see it until now?

See what exactly?


Uh, "Power grab?" I mean, it's so OBVIOUS that I can't believe none of us spotted it sooner.

I don't get it. I can't see anything unusual in this pic. Shepard falls on his knees, then stands up and grabs the handles with determination.


Shepard is literally grabbing for power. This isnt hard, paxxton.

He has the power. So what? Posted Image High voltage electricity is going through his body so he has to grab both handles to close the circuit. Posted Image Are you refering to the way he stands as if he was forcing the handles? If so it shows how determined he is to finish what he started - take Control. Yeah, I know I sound like a Literalist with this. lol

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Alright guys, two things:

I've noticed in mkII there was a mention of a ''bug'' at startup, sometimes when your comp is slow you see a video of a dark planet with fires. Someone said it was Palaven, but i screenshotted it and zoomed, and guess what.... its Earth!

you can check it out yourself
http://imageshack.us...mageresized.png

One of possible explanations to this is that Shepard is still on Earth, and war is not yet over.

Another thing, not sure if anyone noticed.... on a terminal in spectre office it says how galactic economy can only sustain war for a year before collapsing... funny how thats how long bioware plans to release dlc's for the game.....

Modifié par Peace Blade, 14 octobre 2012 - 12:16 .


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paxxton wrote...

He has the power. So what? Posted Image High voltage electricity is going through his body so he has to grab both handles to close the circuit. Posted Image Are you refering to the way he stands as if he was forcing the handles? If so it shows how determined he is to finish what he started - take Control. Yeah, I know I sound like a Literalist with this. lol

It's a representation of Shepard grabbing power both literally in the visual representation and the metaphorical equivalent of "power-grab" ie. grasping for control (since TIM prefers control and he equates power == control).

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Peace Blade wrote...

Alright guys, two things:

I've noticed in mkII there was a mention of a ''bug'' at startup, sometimes when your comp is slow you see a video of a dark planet with fires. Someone said it was Palaven, but i screenshotted it and zoomed, and guess what.... its Earth!

you can check it out yourself
http://imageshack.us...mageresized.png

One of possible explanations to this is that Shepard is still on Earth, and war is not yet over.

Another thing, not sure if anyone noticed.... on a terminal in spectre office it says how galactic economy can only sustain war for a year before collapsing... funny how thats how long bioware plans to release dlc's for the game.....

I've seen that all the time on my 360. Always assumed it was Earth.

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PsiMatrix wrote...

paxxton wrote...

He has the power. So what? Posted Image High voltage electricity is going through his body so he has to grab both handles to close the circuit. Posted Image Are you refering to the way he stands as if he was forcing the handles? If so it shows how determined he is to finish what he started - take Control. Yeah, I know I sound like a Literalist with this. lol

It's a representation of Shepard grabbing power both literally in the visual representation and the metaphorical equivalent of "power-grab" ie. grasping for control (since TIM prefers control and he equates power == control).

Yeah, but I don't really understand what's the fuss about? lol Control was always like that. Shepard gets the power with which comes responsibility. In IT, his lust for power dooms him.

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Bill Casey wrote...

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IT'S A POWER GRAB!!! GET IT?

Yeah, actually why didn't any of us see this sooner especially given Synthesis is a LEAP OF FAITH and in Destroy we fight back.

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I'm sorry but I've always seen it there. Just wasn't bothered by it.

Modifié par paxxton, 14 octobre 2012 - 12:28 .


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 I just thought of something that didn't occur to me till now. Remember how the Quarians haven't been converted into a Reaper yet just about everyone else has. Plus the Quarians haven't been indoctrinated yet right (as far as we know)?  So could it be because of the Quarian self contained suit prevents Quarians from being indoctrinated.  Plus take the average Quarian out of their suit, they'll die from minor injury/illness. It's why Harbinger says Quarians are weak and not fit to become Reapers (and due to the suits) not co-opable. 

The Quarians also rarely if ever leave their suits. So is it possible that Tali may be the only member of the Normandy not actually indoctrinated to some degree unless you picked her as your romance partner?