The problem with this is it's not saying anything more thanmasster blaster wrote...
The more lives Shepard saves, the more of the harvest the Reapers get.
The more lives Shepard takes if you go Renegade, the more of a chance the Reaper win.
masster blaster wrote...
Also I think Paragon, and Renegade actions are Indoctrination actions. Think about Paragon. Paragon gains the trust of everyone in the galaxy, and Paragon is always worried, and doesn't know what to do at times.
What if the Reapers want Shepard to save more lives?
The more lives Shepard saves, the more of the harvest the Reapers get.
The more lives Shepard takes if you go Renegade, the more of a chance the Reaper win.
So in the end you have helped the Reapers.
They have the Citadel, the control the mass relays. They traped us in the sol system, the made us bring almost all of the militarys galaxy to one system. They gave us false hope. The crucible if IT comes true.
So the way I see it Conventinal victory is left. Many people will die, but they die for freedom, they die for the right to live, they fight for a future for everyone.
As long as the start of ME4 is ambiguous, I am not that concerned. However, if we will never know what happens, well then I wouldn't really like it.ealeander wrote...
Restrider wrote...
Yes, that would be possible, but also cheap as hell. It's like leaving the last section of a novel or the last 30 minutes of a movie.
Especially if you are indeed making a sequel.
Would it? For me, one of the things that makes the ME3 ending so compelling (even after I've completed it) is the ambiguity and the way it asks players to rely on their intuitions about what's really happening. An ambiguous start to ME4 would preserve that mystique and preserve the central dramatic tension of the ending of ME3 in post-ME4 playthroughs. This is, after all, an interactive medium, not a novel or movie. Wouldn't holding our hand and saying "Yes, yes, it was IT" kill a lot of the fun?
Then again, I'm a huge David Lynch fan, so I personally love a bit of ambiguity anyway.Ithurael wrote...
That sounds suspiciously like the Deception Theory.
Remember,
the reapers can only be destroyed if the crucible docks with the
citadel. And to dock the crucible someone needs to get to the control
panel to open it up.
And again, I don't see how IT and an ambiguous start to ME4 means that someone, presumably a woken Shepard, didn't get up there to do that.
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?Restrider wrote...
Edit: You know why...Restrider wrote...
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the fifth poll and would also like to remind you that the sixth poll and my long-time survey regarding the first-playthrough chioces are opened for votes.
Restrider wrote...
As long as the start of ME4 is ambiguous, I am not that concerned. However, if we will never know what happens, well then I wouldn't really like it.
I don't need BioWare to hold my hand, but I think a little less vagueness wouldn't hurt, especially if there is a whole new installment.
Hey, keep up the good work, I think what you are doing is amazing. On another note, the kid hasnt been picked yet? I voted that option since your first poll lol.Restrider wrote...
Edit: You know why...Restrider wrote...
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the fifth poll and would also like to remind you that the sixth poll and my long-time survey regarding the first-playthrough chioces are opened for votes.
paxxton wrote...
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?Restrider wrote...
Edit: You know why...Restrider wrote...
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the fifth poll and would also like to remind you that the sixth poll and my long-time survey regarding the first-playthrough chioces are opened for votes.
Well, on my first playthrough, I picked destroy. I got half-way up the control ramp, then remembered the line "So, Illusive man was right after all." and then it hit me that the Catalyst was trying to manipulate me. I also picked destroy because that is what I set out to do for three games.paxxton wrote...
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?Restrider wrote...
Edit: You know why...Restrider wrote...
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the fifth poll and would also like to remind you that the sixth poll and my long-time survey regarding the first-playthrough chioces are opened for votes.
What I meant with that is the following:Ithurael wrote...
Restrider wrote...
As long as the start of ME4 is ambiguous, I am not that concerned. However, if we will never know what happens, well then I wouldn't really like it.
I don't need BioWare to hold my hand, but I think a little less vagueness wouldn't hurt, especially if there is a whole new installment.
So, if I get your logical progression of events (assuming ME4 is released) they would start with.
The reapers were destroyed
New hero
So, keeping to IT, how were the reapers destroyed? That is a pretty significant event in history and by IT perspective that never happened.
Restrider wrote...
What I meant with that is the following:
You start to play ME 4 without knowing what happened. Nothing...
Then it is unfolded that the Reapers are not destroyed (-> IT), you play some kind of unknown character that either:
-rescues Shepard (after Destroy breath scene, or maybe even having chosen other endings, if you have enough EMS and certain events happened (Rachni Queen, Shiala, Liara meld, etc..)), you come to the character construction screen like in ME 2
-sees that Shepard is dead, gets knocked out, you are in a med bay ->character creation and becomes your main character
That would be one way to go for me. Of course there is a revelation and I'd prefer to let ME4 be about ending the war.
Restrider wrote...
What I would not like is something set in the far future where the choices are pointless or something that remains vague about what really happened after the blast.
:devil:
So you did not get the Critical Mission Failure screen after changing your mind from Control to Destroy? It'd seem then only a ramp leading to Destroy triggers that screen.401 Kill wrote...
Well, on my first playthrough, I picked destroy. I got half-way up the control ramp, then remembered the line "So, Illusive man was right after all." and then it hit me that the Catalyst was trying to manipulate me. I also picked destroy because that is what I set out to do for three games.paxxton wrote...
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?Restrider wrote...
Edit: You know why...Restrider wrote...
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I proudly present the results of the fifth poll and would also like to remind you that the sixth poll and my long-time survey regarding the first-playthrough chioces are opened for votes.
I knew the Reapers were trying to indoctrinate me the first time I played it...FifthBeatle wrote...
paxxton wrote...
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?
Agreed. I wonder how many people genuinely picked destroy or just picked it because they read that Shepard lives.
Modifié par Bill Casey, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:26 .
Modifié par paxxton, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:29 .
masster blaster wrote...
Rstrider don't forget the Geth Consensus mission. It shows us that Shepard is in another world, the geth world, and it's been infected. Just like Banshee pointed out that the dark hallway is Shepard's damaged body, or part's of his mind that is infected.
Kinda. But I really want the story to continue in ME4.Bill Casey wrote...
I knew the Reapers were trying to indoctrinate me the first time I played it...FifthBeatle wrote...
paxxton wrote...
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?
Agreed. I wonder how many people genuinely picked destroy or just picked it because they read that Shepard lives.
I was frustrated at first that the game ended on a hallucination, but now I like it better that way...
It really is the ultimate boss fight...
Ithurael wrote...
If you want to headcanon the ending of a 5 year trilogy go for it, I would prefer to know how the story ends personally.
Modifié par ealeander, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:39 .
401 Kill wrote...
Well, on my first playthrough, I picked destroy. I got half-way up the control ramp, then remembered the line "So, Illusive man was right after all." and then it hit me that the Catalyst was trying to manipulate me. I also picked destroy because that is what I set out to do for three games.paxxton wrote...
It'd be interesting to get to know people's motives for choosing Destroy. Was it because they just didn't think of other ways to defeat the Reapers than blowing them up, or is it that they simply mistrusted the Catalyst?
Similar to these, I was thinking about it all for a while, especially the TIM line. Initially I was actually just pissed off with the Kid; I said "Let's get this over with", walked around a bit, mulled it over, and headed for Destroy, after deciding I couldn't agree to the god-type options I was presented with. They just seemed to good to be true and that's when I realised that the whole thing could be indoctrination, helped by various hints in the last few minutes (especially the TIM ones).Bill Casey wrote...
I knew the Reapers were trying to indoctrinate me the first time I played it...FifthBeatle wrote...
Agreed. I wonder how many people genuinely picked destroy or just picked it because they read that Shepard lives.
Modifié par Davik Kang, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:33 .
Modifié par Restrider, 15 octobre 2012 - 07:46 .
You mean other than the fact that they explicitly said that they're making another Mass Effect game? That said, this means it's either A.) a prequel or B.) a sequel. Financially speaking, it'll most likely be a sequel, because a prequel would be mostly pointless, as we would already know the ending. They'd have to have an amazing middle of the story (the part we wouldn't know) to even justify thinking about actually doing it.Cyberfrog81 wrote...
No. With no reveal, I'll continue to dislike the ME3 ending. I see no particular reason to assume that ME4 is happening anyway.
Spectre or Premium. You get 4 golds in Premiums for approx. every 3 in Spectres, but you also have a higher chance for Ultra Rares, so if you're trying to avoid URs, the go Spectre. Otherwise, Premiums are your best bet.401 Kill wrote...
OT question- What packs will give me the best chance at unlocking the Geth Engineer?
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