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http://social.biowar.../index/14530982

Could be false

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BassStyles wrote...

The collector confirmation is on the front page

Correct: http://social.biowar.../index/14530982

To be honest, I'm not surprised. Omega will be all about Cerberus. Harbinger continues to be MIA. Though, a surprise appearance towards the end of Omega would be nice.

Modifié par Big_Boss9, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:11 .


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BassStyles wrote...

The collector confirmation is on the front page


Short answer is no, means Walters is not telling us everything he knows.

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BassStyles wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/14530982

Could be false

Its possible its false. I can't find that interview anywhere else.

Edit: Nevermind I found it elsewhere. :crying:

Modifié par ajk_Jack, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:14 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

BassStyles wrote...

The collector confirmation is on the front page


Short answer is no, means Walters is not telling us everything he knows.


Yeah, I've never once heard someone say "The short answer is no. The long answer is also no."

Plus, seems like a lot of effort to design and program collectors if they're not going to be in the DLC in any way.

Unless Shepard has another nightmare and the collectors feature into it, instead of it just being the kid and some spooky shadows for once. Then they wouldnt technically be part of Omega, but they'd still be in the DLC.

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Well kratos posted this along with it. The question at hand isvon page 2 he says

http://www.newsarama...omics-live.html

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How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?

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Hello if Collectors not in Omega, then The collectors in MP are not real. Hellish was right mp is a big silulate. Also if it's fales then the collectors are still in. The bottem lines is will Harbinger show up in Omega through a hologram, or real life size Harbinger.

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FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


It doesnt, really.

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masster blaster wrote...

Hello if Collectors not in Omega, then The collectors in MP are not real. Hellish was right mp is a big silulate.


I dont know how you made that leap of logic.

I still find the simulator idea to be extremely unlikely, and pretty silly.

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Also I like what byne said about the Collectors being in Omega, yet in Shepard's dream. It could be a no for Omega not dlc, or dlc, and Omega.

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I know byne, but hey could be, yet there are Collector swarms on Palavin. Also seriously guys Collectors don't really change IT at all. We don't know what's on Omega that helps IT, or what the characters will say. Also buy the weapons pack, and let's see what's in the files. Could be some scripts on Omega, or dlc related.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Hello if Collectors not in Omega, then The collectors in MP are not real. Hellish was right mp is a big silulate.


I dont know how you made that leap of logic.

I still find the simulator idea to be extremely unlikely, and pretty silly.


Agreed. Making the entirety of multiplayer a simulation essentially makes it a complete waste of time for both the player and the developer. What exactly would be the point of the weekend Operations and DLC if is all just a simulation? 

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FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


Everything you see...affects IT

Did you not know this?

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Ithurael wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


Everything you see...affects IT

Did you not know this?


This proves IT.

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FifthBeatle wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


Everything you see...affects IT

Did you not know this?


This proves IT.


I'm really tired of that smart-ass bull****.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


Everything you see...affects IT

Did you not know this?


This proves IT.


I'm really tired of that smart-ass bull****.


Relax. By turning literalists' snarkiness against them it disarms them. Nothing wrong with poking fun at ourselves either. 

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byne wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

BassStyles wrote...

The collector confirmation is on the front page


Short answer is no, means Walters is not telling us everything he knows.


Yeah, I've never once heard someone say "The short answer is no. The long answer is also no."


He seemed to qualify that by elaborating that there'll be a backstory on the blog.  According to him, they have no other real reason to be around.

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FifthBeatle wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


Everything you see...affects IT

Did you not know this?


This proves IT.


I'm really tired of that smart-ass bull****.


Relax. By turning literalists' snarkiness against them it disarms them. Nothing wrong with poking fun at ourselves either. 


I'm just stating how I feel.

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Davik Kang wrote...

This got me thinking too. Imagine if you like that the ending is like zooming into Shepard's mind.  First we escape Earth (reality).  Then we are in Shepard's mind (the Citadel scene resembles a brain).  Then we come so close to Shepard's consciousness that we are like a pinpoint, like the little arrow at the centre of the decision wheel.  This would make sense as to why the Chamber resembles a giant decision wheel.

Note also that Synthesis is beyond the back of, and lower down than, the other choices... it is beyond the normal decision wheel if you like.  It is a choice we normally cannot make... it is the choice of a god... or of insanity.

I'd also like to add that Synthesis is also the easiest to see and identify, since it's a bright light straight ahead, meaning that it's also the easiest choice to get to. That is exactly how I accidentally picked Synthesis the first time. I was confused and overwhelmed by the idiocy of the Guardian that I never saw the ramps up the side. I initially thought that the ending was an ending of degree, rather than an ending of choice, meaning that Destroy was the low EMS result, Control the middle EMS result, and Synthesis high EMS result. I didn't even realize that it was a choice until after the credits rolled.

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ajk_Jack wrote...

Eryri wrote...


Yes this confused me too. Mike Gamble's comment was that Omega was "twice the size of any DLC we've ever done". But the EC was already up against the Xbox's limits. Perhaps it refers to play time rather than the compressed file size? I hope so anyway, to justify its high price.

This puts Omega at about 6-8 hours in length, which is longer than many retail games. I think it is a combination of multiple DLC's because of the EC pushing everything back. It would also explain the late release date if they went ahead and just merge two DLC's together because they were similar in nature.


Well remember, he said "basically double the size of any ME3 DLC".  So double Leviathan, really.  LotSB doesn't qualify under that comment.  Was Leviathan 3 hours long?  I didn't download it.

See how Gamble plays the word game?  They're pros at semantics over at BW.

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Modifié par paxxton, 16 octobre 2012 - 06:55 .


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BatmanTurian wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

FifthBeatle wrote...

How does not having the Collectors in Omega affect IT?


Everything you see...affects IT

Did you not know this?


This proves IT.


I'm really tired of that smart-ass bull****.


Relax. By turning literalists' snarkiness against them it disarms them. Nothing wrong with poking fun at ourselves either. 


I'm just stating how I feel.


I hear ya. But we'll be proven right in the end. And then everyone (literalists and ITers) wins!

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What does religious and not religious mean in this context?

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

ajk_Jack wrote...

Eryri wrote...


Yes this confused me too. Mike Gamble's comment was that Omega was "twice the size of any DLC we've ever done". But the EC was already up against the Xbox's limits. Perhaps it refers to play time rather than the compressed file size? I hope so anyway, to justify its high price.

This puts Omega at about 6-8 hours in length, which is longer than many retail games. I think it is a combination of multiple DLC's because of the EC pushing everything back. It would also explain the late release date if they went ahead and just merge two DLC's together because they were similar in nature.


Well remember, he said "basically double the size of any ME3 DLC".  So double Leviathan, really.  LotSB doesn't qualify under that comment.  Was Leviathan 3 hours long?  I didn't download it.

See how Gamble plays the word game?  They're pros at semantics over at BW.

Leviathan was 3 to 4 hours long if you did everything. On average it was about 2 to 3 hours in length. It took me upwards of three because I'm a completionist.